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The Frederick St protest and reaction

guylikeme

Surprised there wasnt a thread. Maybe there's just no shock factor any more to what happens.

Anyways..without debating who is right or wrong on this, id like to hear why Gardai wore Balacalavas. Seems a little overdone.

I am of course coming in late to all this, fill me in if i'm missing obvious detail.

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[Deleted User]

blackwhite wrote: »

Funnily enough, the water protests were successful in winning public support because they did their best not to target ordinary people going about their daily business.

The water protests were an easy win compared to housing.

You will get a good crowd out when you are protesting for people NOT to pay for something.

Getting a large crowd out to campaign for a large amount of social housing that HAS TO BE PAID for is more difficult.

John.Icy

blackwhite wrote: »

They advertised they were going to stage a sit-down on O’Connell bridge??

Less of the lies please

The group who organsied today literally done the exact same sitdown protest last week.

I'm lying because you haven't seen any of the social media organisation etc. Alrighty then.

animaal

Hitman3000 wrote: »

They're not sticking their fingers up to the citizens. They are doing what the constitution allows.The right to protest is an important right in any functioning democracy. My point about referring to other people as scum still stands.

If the constitution is the defining line for what's acceptable, then it's fine to think of anybody as scum.

I acknowledge there is a problem with housing.

I accept their right to protest.

But with their previous antics and now aiming to inconvenience the ordinary citizens of the country, they lose any residue of support I would have had for them.

Maybe the laws on the use of "reasonable force" to protect one's home could be extended to one's property generally. It would be a good counter-balance for a group that has no respect for ordinary citizens and their property rights.

Brendan Bendar

John.Icy wrote: »

The group who organsied today literally done the exact same sitdown protest last week.

I'm lying because you haven't seen any of the social media organisation etc. Alrighty then.

“Literally done”

Jaysus... says it all.

Hitman3000

Get Real wrote:

By just blocking up roads (without being adult enough to consukt with Gardai and city council before hand) and trespassing, it is they in fact who are playing into the government's hands as they can simply be written off as "scumbags" or "crazies".

Please stop with this rubbish. One of the largest of the. Water charge protests saw circa 100k take to the streets of Dublin. It was done with the full knowledge and cooperation of the guards. Advertised in advance and marshalled. Yet on sites like this one including some posting here today described those taking part as scum , wasters etc. The government sought to downplay the protest by trying to denegrate the participants just like what is being down here.
There is a section of society/ posters here

that believes everyone should put up and shut up and never challenge the status quo.

[Deleted User]

blackwhite wrote: »

You’ve showed nothing but contempt for anyone who knuckles down and tries to provide for themselves and their families. Sickening ideology, and a nasty attitude towards those who provide for themselves (and untimely others) to boot.

Similar attitude towards hard workers as those currently plonked on O’Connell Bridge, no wonder you’re falling over yourself to defend their calcium behaviour.

And of course, falling over yourself to target someone who’s been critical of your cult political party in the past. The usual tactics, but not surprising in the least

Yawn. Are you even bothering to read other people's posts fully? So I'll say it again: I work, I am a taxpayer, I provide for myself. 'Your cult'? What the f**k are you on about now? Ah I see, trying to carry that silly little squabble you started in the Politics forum yesterday into here. Give it a rest.......

Hitman3000

blackwhite wrote:

No such decency from the arseholes currently planted on Oâ€™Connell Bridge today though. Nothing but contempt for the ordinary people of the city.

Are you capable of comment with name calling? Just curious.

John.Icy

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

“Literally done”

Jaysus... says it all.

What's your problem?

blackwhite

Deleted User wrote: »

Yawn. Are you even bothering to read other people's posts fully? So I'll say it again: I work, I am a taxpayer, I provide for myself. 'My cult'. What the f**k are you on about now? Ah I see, trying to carry that silly little squabble you started in the Politics forum yesterday into here. Give it a rest.......

You and your fellow travellers attempts to target posters who dare criticise your political heroes have been seen before. Fairly transparent tactics, especially when you send people unsolicited PMs about other posters trying to discredit them

pjohnson

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Yawn. Are you even bothering to read other people's posts fully? So I'll say it again: I work, I am a taxpayer, I provide for myself. 'Your cult'? What the f**k are you on about now? Ah I see, trying to carry that silly little squabble you started in the Politics forum yesterday into here. Give it a rest.......

Theres tiers of tax payers. Theres the taxpayers who pay tax and get on with their lives. Then theres the tax payers who believe they should control anything & everything because taxes.

Brendan Bendar

John.Icy wrote: »

What's your problem?

I don’t have a problem,dude, do you?

blackwhite

Hitman3000 wrote: »

Are you capable of comment with name calling? Just curious.

I’ll describe exacltly as their behaviour deserves.

But hey, I guess it’s easier for you to attack other posters than keep defending the scummy behaviour seen earlier by your heroes on O’Connell st

Homer

John.Icy wrote: »

What's your problem?

Do we need to “spell” it out for you??

John.Icy

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

I don’t have a problem,dude, do you?

How old are you? I pointed out the same group previously organised the same protest last week and you picked a phrase out of my post - for what I can presume is some "I'm holier than thou" grammatical thing. Followed by "says it all".

Tell me what does it say?

John.Icy

Homer wrote: »

Do we need to “spell” it out for you??

Ah. Grammar.

A classic boards rebuttal. My apologies.

McMurphy

blackwhite wrote: »

Funnily enough, the water protests were successful in winning public support because they did their best not to target ordinary people going about their daily business.

The large-scale protest marches were always notified in advance, so even though they caused dispruption they were always careful enough to give people notice so they could plan for the disruption.

When a few scumbags tried the same tactics as today’s, they were rightly disowned and condemned by the vast majority involved with the water protests

No such decency from the arseholes currently planted on O’Connell Bridge today though. Nothing but contempt for the ordinary people of the city.

Jeez, that wasn't the general consensus from many of your fellow travellers around here at the time, in fact, I'd say if I could be bothered/had the inclination I'd hazard that I'd even find posts by yourself implying the same.

Gotta love all the now converted.

You'd have to wonder how many people will have road to Damascus moments if/when these housing protests prove to be as effective as the (now highly acclaimed) water protests.

Brendan Bendar

John.Icy wrote: »

How old are you? I pointed out the same group previously organised the same protest last week and you picked a phrase out of my post - for what I can presume is some "I'm holier than thou" grammatical thing. Followed by "says it all".

Tell me what does it say?

Tells me all I need to know,bro.

Tells me what I am dealing with.

You know, gives me an insight into folks.

Very important, a skill you should work on.

Hitman3000

blackwhite wrote:

But hey, I guess itâ€™s easier for you to attack other posters than keep defending the scummy behaviour seen earlier by your heroes on Oâ€™Connell st

Attack? Bit over dramatic don't you think. Anyway you've answered my question. Seems you are incapable.

blackwhite

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

Jeez, that wasn't the general consensus from many of your fellow travellers around here at the time, in fact, I'd say if I could be bothered/had the inclination I'd hazard that I'd even find posts by yourself implying the same.

Gotta love all the now converted.

You'd have to wonder how many people will have road to Damascus moments if/when these housing protests prove to be as effective as the (now highly acclaimed) water protests.

I disagreed with the opposition to water charges, but I didn’t criticise the methods of the large-scale protests (marches, etc) and can fully acknowledge that they succeeded.

Unlike some, I don’t feel a need to blindly follow a cult based on what a political party tells me, or to blindly back up any comments based on what “side” posted it

blackwhite

Hitman3000 wrote: »

Attack? Bit over dramatic don't you think. Anyway you've answered my question. Seems you are incapable.

TBH, it’s seems that all you’re capable of doing is going after the poster instead of debating.

But I guess if that makes you feel good about yourself then knock yourself out :rolleyes:

hatrickpatrick

Yeah_Right wrote: »

I'd say it would result in most of these socialists staying in the suburbs and sitting around a (non commercial chain) coffee shop, sipping their fair trade espresso or chai, soy latte while pontificating about social justice and the government is crushing the people. They'd certainly be no where near the front lines if they thought they could an Alsatian chomping on them.

Anyone else got a winning Right Wing Buzzword Bingo card?

All Seeing Eye

The Guards would have moved in and broken up this gathering using batons, tear gas etc. There is no way this group of people should be allowed bring our capital city to standstill.

Hitman3000

blackwhite wrote:

TBH, itâ€™s seems that all youâ€™re capable of doing is going after the poster instead of debating.

If you think my replies to you are an attack , you'll have to forgive me in thinking you are incredibly sensitive and prehaps the internet is not the place for you. Btw it's hard to take anyone serious who is happy to describe other people as scum simply because of protest.

Hitman3000

All Seeing Eye wrote:

The Guards would have moved in and broken up this gathering using batons, tear gas etc. There is no way this group of people should be allowed bring our capital city to standstill.

What pretext could the guards use to take the actions you have suggested?

blackwhite

Hitman3000 wrote: »

If you think my replies to you are an attack , you'll have to forgive me in thinking you are incredibly sensitive and prehaps the internet is not the place for you. Btw it's hard to take anyone serious who is happy to describe other people as scum simply because of protest.

More personal BS as opposed to debate?

What a shocker

Brendan Bendar

All Seeing Eye wrote: »

The Guards would have moved in and broken up this gathering using batons, tear gas etc. There is no way this group of people should be allowed bring our capital city to standstill.

Hopefully there will be arrests, court cases and convictions.

Only way to deal with this activity.

McMurphy

All Seeing Eye wrote: »

The Guards would have moved in and broken up this gathering using batons, tear gas etc. There is no way this group of people should be allowed bring our capital city to standstill.

Like they did when the farmers brought the place to a standstill with their protests?

Grow up.

[Deleted User]

blackwhite wrote: »

You and your fellow travellers attempts to target posters who dare criticise your political heroes have been seen before. Fairly transparent tactics, especially when you send people unsolicited PMs about other posters trying to discredit them

Do paranoia much? That's funny because you called the poster in question a 'very obvious troll' in those PMs............

blackwhite

Hitman3000 wrote: »

If you think my replies to you are an attack , you'll have to forgive me in thinking you are incredibly sensitive and prehaps the internet is not the place for you. Btw it's hard to take anyone serious who is happy to describe other people as scum simply because of protest.

More personal BS as opposed to debate?

What a shocker

Hitman3000

blackwhite wrote:

More personal BS as opposed to debate?

You can't have a debate with anyone whose starting position is anyone that disagrees with them is scum or a defender of scum.