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Hi I've been thinking it'd be nice to have a thread where simple questions that people don't want to create a thread for, could go. Or any chat related to detailing.

I've a question. If I've put a wax on, then a sealant. Then after a few weeks or w/e I'm thinking the shine isn't what it was. (After washing obviously) Can I apply wax on top of whatever sealant and wax is left from the first time, or do I have to remove the remaining sealant + wax first?

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vectra

Leave it to Brian.
He will sort it for you safely.

sdevine89

TomOnBoard wrote: »

Solution of bread soda and water will neutralise, then wash it off.

Washed the areas I tried and then rinsed off with a couple of buckets of water, presume it'll be grand, sure it can't be any worse

sdevine89

Update 2:

Just back from Spirit Detailing. Brian tried a good few things in his arsenal and nothing worked 100%. Clay took off some of the very heavy stuff and was maybe the best of the bunch. He hasn't seen anything like it before and it appears to have stained the clear coat (wtf is it!).

Booked in for the first available slot at the start of October with him for a few days. He is hopeful a tough polish will work on the stains and if not we are looking at some sanding.

The nightmare goes on, but happy to be in good hands and I fully believe he will get it sorted.

[Deleted User]

To be honest, if there's anyone around that area of the country that can sort it, it'll be Brian.

sdevine89

Might swing by BMW in the meantime, car is less than two months old and see what they say, try convince them to respray it for free

TomOnBoard

sdevine89 wrote: »

Might swing by BMW in the meantime, car is less than two months old and see what they say, try convince them to respray it for free

Be careful here. Unless there is some likelihood of the paint/clear coat being faulty from manufacture, why would BMW do a respray? Once you go in, itll be on tbe record and any future real paintwork warranty claim may be compromised. Just a thought!

Perhaps a better first step would be to have some bits of the substance analysed to establish exactly what it is?

sdevine89

TomOnBoard wrote: »

Be careful here. Unless there is some likelihood of the paint/clear coat being faulty from manufacture, why would BMW do a respray? Once you go in, itll be on tbe record and any future real paintwork warranty claim may be compromised. Just a thought!

Perhaps a better first step would be to have some bits of the substance analysed to establish exactly what it is?

Very fair point.

yannakis

So I've been practicing the standard wash this summer (foam, wheel brushes, 2 buckets, de-tar, de-iron) up until the hose ban kicked in. I was planning to step up my game a bit, so got this rather basic DA polisher and this 125mm backing plate. Now with the hose ban hopefully ending soon, I want to buy the rest of the items and do the job!

From my research I'm missing some clay, polishing pads, masking tape, and a good polish? Am I missing something?

Looking at these Chemical Guys Hex Logic pads for example, I'm getting a bit lost. Do I need a compound and a sealant too?

Can you recommend some products?

TomOnBoard

yannakis wrote: »

So I've been practicing the standard wash this summer (foam, wheel brushes, 2 buckets, de-tar, de-iron) up until the hose ban kicked in. I was planning to step up my game a bit, so got this rather basic DA polisher and this 125mm backing plate. Now with the hose ban hopefully ending soon, I want to buy the rest of the items and do the job!

From my research I'm missing some clay, polishing pads, masking tape, and a good polish? Am I missing something?

Looking at these Chemical Guys Hex Logic pads for example, I'm getting a bit lost. Do I need a compound and a sealant too?

Can you recommend some products?

Yes... You'll need the 2 kg tub of elbow grease (make sure you get the correctly oriented one depending on whether you're right-handed or one of them weird ciothog lads).

Slattsy

What's happening with Detailing Shed lads? Are they wrapping up? (sad face)

vectra

yannakis wrote: »

So I've been practicing the standard wash this summer (foam, wheel brushes, 2 buckets, de-tar, de-iron) up until the hose ban kicked in. I was planning to step up my game a bit, so got this rather basic DA polisher and this 125mm backing plate. Now with the hose ban hopefully ending soon, I want to buy the rest of the items and do the job!

From my research I'm missing some clay, polishing pads, masking tape, and a good polish? Am I missing something?

Looking at these Chemical Guys Hex Logic pads for example, I'm getting a bit lost. Do I need a compound and a sealant too?

Can you recommend some products?

OK
I won't recommend polishes as I haven't used a polisher with a while and polishes have moved on.
But Menz polishes are still highly rated as far as I am aware.
You could also use some Megs 105 and 205 polishes are they are very capable of giving great results.
Then seal it up with whatever product of your choice. ( ie. Wax ~ Sealant ~ Ceramic coat etc)
When I did use polishing machines I did really like the Hex pads, My favourite 3 were
Orange for heavy cut
Green for medium cut / finish cut
Black for polishing.

I described the pads in easy to understand english to make it more understandable.

ianobrien

Slattsy wrote: »

What's happening with Detailing Shed lads? Are they wrapping up? (sad face)

I bloody hope not. I imagine the hose pipe ban really hurt as people were not washing their cars (I wasn't).

If they do, Where else am I to get my CarPro stuff and who can I annoy for "advice"?

yannakis

vectra wrote: »

OK
I won't recommend polishes as I haven't used a polisher with a while and polishes have moved on.
But Menz polishes are still highly rated as far as I am aware.
You could also use some Megs 105 and 205 polishes are they are very capable of giving great results.
Then seal it up with whatever product of your choice. ( ie. Wax ~ Sealant ~ Ceramic coat etc)
When I did use polishing machines I did really like the Hex pads, My favourite 3 were
Orange for heavy cut
Green for medium cut / finish cut
Black for polishing.

I described the pads in easy to understand english to make it more understandable.

What would you recommend instead of polishes? I used that word without much thinking tbh.

On the pads and the examples you used above, would you go orange for Maguires 105, then green for 205, and then black for wax/sealant? Would one of each pads be enough to do the whole car in a day? (depending on the elbow grease

)

What would you recommend when it comes to wax or sealant? I'd avoid ceramic coatings on the first go as I'd prefer to be confident the polishing part is done right before coating it with something more permanent.

EPAndlee

ianobrien wrote: »

I bloody hope not. I imagine the hose pipe ban really hurt as people were not washing their cars (I wasn't).

If they do, Where else am I to get my CarPro stuff and who can I annoy for "advice"?

Reflect Auto Care are CarPro retailers

Curran

Slattsy wrote: »

What's happening with Detailing Shed lads? Are they wrapping up? (sad face)

Most will know that Detailing Shed was a venture of mine; though no longer! So, I can give some background.

Was owned by my brother and I, after he bought out the share from the guy I initially set up the business with, back in 2010.
We had intended on running the Detailing Services under the Detailing Shed name too, but a split occurred before everything was in place. We agreed he would run the detailing products aspect of the business, and I would take on the Detailing Services and the Swisstrax Floor Tile under the D'Shed name.

Dont get myself involved in his affairs, but as far as I can make out; he has ceased the walk in shop, but online orders continue to be sent out, although the previously in place, next working day delivery commitment, I doubt is being kept up.
He has taken on hours at another job, citing the Hose Pipe Ban as the reason to have to resort to the measures.

From my own perspective, the Detailing Services didnt work out for various reasons; there was plenty of customers though. May re-visit it when timing is better.

ianobrien wrote: »

who can I annoy for "advice"?

If anyone ever needs any help, dont hesitate to contact me; dont frequent the forum 20 times a day like in the past, but do pop in and out regular enough! Always happy to help out any detailing enthusiast!

punisher5112

Ah that's a shame Curran.

Hope it all works out for you.

Slattsy

Thanks for the update, I've always appreciated your thoughts and help over the years.

Loves_lorries

Paid a valet garage 90 euro to remove a chronic dog smell on a car I just bought, guy has always done good work for me.

Is it reasonable to go back to him, car spotless after clean but dog smell returned once chemicals smell wore off after three days

Foxhole Norman

Loves_lorries wrote: »

Paid a valet garage 90 euro to remove a chronic dog smell on a car I just bought, guy has always done good work for me.

Is it reasonable to go back to him, car spotless after clean but dog smell returned once chemicals smell wore off after three days

Smells are not something easily removed, if you paid €90 for the car to be cleaned and the car is clean there's not much recourse. The smell can be well ingrained in foam, roof liners, carpets etc, removing smells like this can take days to do right and even then, you couldn't guarantee it won't return unless you go stripping the entire interior!

TomOnBoard

Loves_lorries wrote: »

Paid a valet garage 90 euro to remove a chronic dog smell on a car I just bought, guy has always done good work for me.

Is it reasonable to go back to him, car spotless after clean but dog smell returned once chemicals smell wore off after three days

Are you sure its actual dog?

Over the years, Ive found that the Air Conditioning/filtration system can produce a distinctive 'wet spaniel' smell... Just a thought...

Noccy_Mondy

Looking for a power washer today, just for the cars. Thoughts?! Had a nilfisk before and it was good.

https://m.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/1577941/Trail/searchtext>Powerwasher.htm

Loves_lorries

TomOnBoard wrote: »

Are you sure its actual dog?

Over the years, Ive found that the Air Conditioning/filtration system can produce a distinctive 'wet spaniel' smell... Just a thought...

Definitely a dog, met the family and they had the dog in the house on both occasions I was there.

Smelly fecker, only noticed the smell when driving the car home having paid for it.

Loves_lorries

Foxhole Norman wrote: »

Smells are not something easily removed, if you paid €90 for the car to be cleaned and the car is clean there's not much recourse. The smell can be well ingrained in foam, roof liners, carpets etc, removing smells like this can take days to do right and even then, you couldn't guarantee it won't return unless you go stripping the entire interior!

Thing is I stressed the issue of the dog smell, the car wasn't dirty inside, I'm wondering if he knew removing a dog odour was a hard task, he should perhaps have not taken it on.

Maybe I'm naive thinking anyone would turn down 90 euro.

Black_Knight

Lovely weather to have a hosepipe ban in. :rolleyes:

EPAndlee

Black_Knight wrote: »

Lovely weather to have a hosepipe ban in. :rolleyes:

Is there still a hosepipe ban? I thought that was all over with

punisher5112

EPAndlee wrote: »

Is there still a hosepipe ban? I thought that was all over with

End of this month. They extended it for most areas but some were let expire end of last.

Slattsy

The car is getting a good clean today anyway.

Might need a whole bottle of shampoo when I do get around to washing it.

DaveyDave

Have the whole week off work next week...

I don't see why the ban can't be lifted early, nobody is using the hose at this time of the year. The heat is gone and the temperatures have dropped quite a bit. Even when it is 16-17C there's still a chill in the air and we have a mix of winds and showers. Badly need to clay the windscreen!

sdevine89

Restored the headlights on my girlfriend's 05 Golf yesterday:

DoctorStrange

From the Journal.ie

The hosepipe ban brought in during the scorching summer has now been lifted in Kerry, Limerick, Tipperary, Cork, Waterford, Wexford, Kilkenny, Carlow, Laois, Offaly, Wicklow, Meath, Westmeath, Louth, Kildare and Dublin.

Happy snow foaming!