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Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 3

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Welcome to the Mayo GAA discussion thread - Chapter 3, yer trotting them out quicker than a Mills & Boon Romance !.

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ureds

Drama Queens

djPSB

Embarrassing statement.

Floppybits

They have played every card under the sun, being intimidated, lack of communication, isolation and Mental health. Every other player was happy enough. To me it looks like an attempt to have the manager removed from the position and a manager of their own (the players that left) put in place.

statto25

They wanted to resolve this in a private setting...maybe they should have let Cora know before she went on Newstalk.

sightband

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/ladies-football/the-whole-experience-had-a-significant-impact-on-our-mental-health-departed-mayo-players-release-strong-statement-37327872.html

ahhhhhh....so them walking out caused mental health issues and thats where the player welfare issue arose....ahhhhh, now we understand. all is forgiven.

what a f*cking pack of insincere disingenuous cowards

big_drive

They had issue with a player being called "lazy". Come off it
What world are we now in. They should come into a men's dressing room and see what you'd be called

Bunny Colvin

That statement really is embarrassing.

"Ultimately our issues related to a lack of communication, being undermined, intimidated, feeling isolated and eventually helpless in the entire situation."

They've absolutely dressed this up to make things sound like something more sinister. Intimidated? Lol. Let's face it, you all walked off in a huff and now it's backfired spectacularly.

BandMember

sightband wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/ladies-football/the-whole-experience-had-a-significant-impact-on-our-mental-health-departed-mayo-players-release-strong-statement-37327872.html

ahhhhhh....so them walking out caused mental health issues and thats where the player welfare issue arose....ahhhhh, now we understand. all is forgiven.

what a f*cking pack of insincere disingenuous cowards

They really are an absolute f**king disgrace!!

The Talking Bread

F*ck them. Just don't pick them again. You can't have their little emotions affected, god bless em.

The younger members who were forced by their peers (or Staunton) to follow the leader will look back in a few years and regret this.

Embarrassing stuff.

I hope the rest of the panel have their say.

Happyilylost

No one find it strange the length the manager went to in the podcast to defend and almost absolve Sarah Tierney yet it seems the biggest issue was the treatment she received?

PARlance

"Ok ladies, Unsafe seemed to backfire on us... what will we do"
"Mental Health anyone???"

benji79

Play the ‘mental health ‘ card is the way to go these days! It’s the buzz topic

They really are a disgrace and are making themselves look worse with each statement. Nothing concrete in anything. Just wishy washy cliches and general buzz words

happyoutscan

They are a collective mess. Shame on them.

NabyLadistheman

The most damning part for me is the use of Sarah Tierney as a scapegoat. Notice where Sarah is from? Not Carnacon

KrustyUCC

Mayo LGFA County Board Executive Statement

http://www.the42.ie/mayo-lgfa-statement-peter-leahy-carnacon-4241606-Sep2018/

The Talking Bread

Is Cora the only remaining AI winner amongst them? What ages are her apostles?

It's utterly selfish. Cora had nothing to lose. She had her glory, her All Ireands, her All Stars, had her name in lights as one of the greats, had even got an opportunity to play on a professional (or semi pro) platform abroad. Her career was coming to an end so what had she got to lose.

Compare that to the younger members of the "scared for their welfare" entourage.

She didn't take their careers into consideration at all.
She clearly isn't a people's person. She's very distant I half feel sorry for her followers but then again if they are that mentally weak to stand their ground and not be a sheep they shouldn't be on the pitch anyway.

She has made a show of herself

Fann Linn

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Mayo LGFA County Board Executive Statement

http://www.the42.ie/mayo-lgfa-statement-peter-leahy-carnacon-4241606-Sep2018/

'......an orchestrated attempt to make Peter Leahy's job untenable'.
Well done Cora et al.

The Talking Bread

Ps, maybe I am ott laying most blame on Cora? It's just the way I read it all? I'm very open to being called out if I am

Floppybits

What a mess this is. The players are really not coming out of this well at all. The statement from the County Board shoots down the players. Is there any hope of there being a reconciliation?

clint_silver

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Ps, maybe I am ott laying most blame on Cora? It's just the way I read it all? I'm very open to being called out if I am

the narrative is that it was her and another that were being dropped. Her will to win is legendary in the game. Best player Ive ever seen play, but this, this is quite simply the worst thing that she could have done and as a senior player she made it all about her.

I remember standing behind Dublin as they lifted the cup last year in croke park, she was fantastic in the game as she always was. But while her team stood beside each other at one end of the pitch, she tried to make it all about her by sitting down on her own up the other end. I hadnt seen that before in the game. Sour. Bitter. After all thats shes given to the game, the sourness and bitterness is what shes going to take from it. Shame.

I listened again to the Peter Leahy interview. Class act. Id shake his hand if I ever meet him.

benji79

Certain players become somewhat bitter at end of their career. I think they put so much into it they can’t face the reality that it’s close to the end and they can’t let it go. It’s almost a fear of how they’ll fill the void. Happens to some people when they near retirement age from their job/career too

muddle84

Floppybits wrote: »

What a mess this is. The players are really not coming out of this well at all. The statement from the County Board shoots down the players. Is there any hope of there being a reconciliation?

You coukd see from Peter Leahys interview that it all changed whem Cora returned from Australia though so i think its a fair assumption

Floppybits

muddle84 wrote: »

Floppybits wrote: »

What a mess this is. The players are really not coming out of this well at all. The statement from the County Board shoots down the players. Is there any hope of there being a reconciliation?

You coukd see from Peter Leahys interview that it all changed whem Cora returned from Australia though so i think its a fair assumption

It certainly does look like some players were not happy with the Managements decision on how they would use them and they had enough influence to bring a cohort of players with them. It is terrible for the players involved in this that may not play for their county again.

KrustyUCC

'It was like a personal attack that evening': Former Mayo captain gives specifics on welfare issues

http://www.the42.ie/sarah-tierney-mayo-ladies-walkout-specifics-4241607-Sep2018/

yop

clint_silver wrote: »

the narrative is that it was her and another that were being dropped. Her will to win is legendary in the game. Best player Ive ever seen play, but this, this is quite simply the worst thing that she could have done and as a senior player she made it all about her.

I remember standing behind Dublin as they lifted the cup last year in croke park, she was fantastic in the game as she always was. But while her team stood beside each other at one end of the pitch, she tried to make it all about her by sitting down on her own up the other end. I hadnt seen that before in the game. Sour. Bitter. After all thats shes given to the game, the sourness and bitterness is what shes going to take from it. Shame.

I listened again to the Peter Leahy interview. Class act. Id shake his hand if I ever meet him.

V good post.
Afraid the carrot has gotten too big for the pot.

Agree with what u said and watching the documentary on TnaG playing on and then training with a broken nose shows her will to win goes above all pain or self preservation. Even the level of strapping on her knee with ligament damage is nut stuff. As her coach said "She is a beast".

But the bad beast side has spiralled this into an awful situation, there is no winner on any side, this will split teams, fans etc.

But like Roy Keane and Ronaldo, you get to a level where you thinks (or are) so good u think it all revolves around you and its all about you, her unwillingless to take a step back and a place on the bench now seems to exploded.

But no man or woman is bigger than a team, she has found this out now.

Its a shame, but a bit like Conoreen, she might see what she has done in the real light of day. But for now the red mist is there, I expect this could continue with outbursts.

Shame if it does.

The high horse brigade

KrustyUCC wrote: »

'It was like a personal attack that evening': Former Mayo captain gives specifics on welfare issues

http://www.the42.ie/sarah-tierney-mayo-ladies-walkout-specifics-4241607-Sep2018/

Sounds like her and Cora wanted to run the show

Panrich

This has spiralled out of control on all sides now. Whether the county board and Leahy stick to their guns, or we have a change, we'll be put back decades in ladies football in the county with the loss of so many players. The hope that something could be worked out has been dashed by the latest round of media interviews.

Floppybits

Well it was going to happen, the statement the players gave when this blew up and then the Cora Staunton interview on Off the ball and finally todays press release which had all the buzzwords such as intimidation, being undermined, being isolated and cream on top Mental health, is not showing the girls in a good light.

The only evidence they gave to back this up was the captain being criticised for her performances in training.

PARlance

clint_silver wrote: »

the narrative is that it was her and another that were being dropped. Her will to win is legendary in the game. Best player Ive ever seen play, but this, this is quite simply the worst thing that she could have done and as a senior player she made it all about her.

I remember standing behind Dublin as they lifted the cup last year in croke park, she was fantastic in the game as she always was. But while her team stood beside each other at one end of the pitch, she tried to make it all about her by sitting down on her own up the other end. I hadnt seen that before in the game. Sour. Bitter. After all thats shes given to the game, the sourness and bitterness is what shes going to take from it. Shame.

I listened again to the Peter Leahy interview. Class act. Id shake his hand if I ever meet him.

I would have to disagree with one major point there, she was far from fantastic in that game. I thought it was an embarrassing display. I don't have the time to go back and look at the comments, but there were certainly a few on here saying the same. She wanted to do it all that day, and her day of doing it all is gone. It's definitely gone now.

boosabum

The high horse brigade wrote: »

Sounds like her and Cora wanted to run the show

I know that Cora was very good to her when she joined the panel first and a quick google search will show a piece by Fiona McHale on how she became a leader in the team very quickly hence becoming captain.
Might be a case of her being too loyal to Cora and failing to see the wood from the trees untimately