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The Frederick St protest and reaction

guylikeme

Surprised there wasnt a thread. Maybe there's just no shock factor any more to what happens.

Anyways..without debating who is right or wrong on this, id like to hear why Gardai wore Balacalavas. Seems a little overdone.

I am of course coming in late to all this, fill me in if i'm missing obvious detail.

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blackwhite

Edgware wrote: »

Of course you are noted for your wind breaking ability

Only whilst wearing the appropriately-named equipment.

Otherwise that would be breaking “The Rules”.

Samsong

It's time to get rid of bloated public sector pensions and put the money towards the country and its infrastructure

[Deleted User]

One of the representatives of the occupation was just interviewed on RTÉ Radio 1's Drivertime programme.

No mention of demanding asset-stripping of private property, he clarified that they are requesting that the Department/ Local Authority compulsorily purchase vacant properties in the city, for social housing.

Not exactly a radical stance, that.

dxhound2005

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

One of the representatives of the occupation was just interviewed on RTÉ Radio 1's Drivertime programme.

No mention of demanding asset-stripping of private property, he clarified that they are requesting that the Department/ Local Authority compulsorily purchase vacant properties in the city, for social housing.

Not exactly a radical stance, that.

Did he stand in some election to become a representative of the people?

Samsong

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Did he stand in some election to become a representative of the people?

He may have been chosen by the other like minded people to talk to the media.

What is your situation?

Yer Da sells Avon

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

One of the representatives of the occupation was just interviewed on RTÉ Radio 1's Drivertime programme.

No mention of demanding asset-stripping of private property, he clarified that they are requesting that the Department/ Local Authority compulsorily purchase vacant properties in the city, for social housing.

Not exactly a radical stance, that.

Without CPOs, I wonder how many motorways we'd have...

dxhound2005

Samsong wrote: »

He may have been chosen by the other like minded people to talk to the media.

What is your situation?

Someone who wouldn't like anyone to break into my house.

blackwhite

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

One of the representatives of the occupation was just interviewed on RTÉ Radio 1's Drivertime programme.

No mention of demanding asset-stripping of private property, he clarified that they are requesting that the Department/ Local Authority compulsorily purchase vacant properties in the city, for social housing.

Not exactly a radical stance, that.

It all depends on how “vacant” is defined for any CPOs.

Given the latest property occupied has been tied up in the planning process, and only finally got approval for redevelopment in the past 3 months, it would appear that the protest groups have one hell of a wide definition of what they’ll call “vacant” and set their eyes on.

It sounds dangerously like how Antifa and violence-loving cheerleaders in here try it brand everyone who disagrees with them as “fascist”, before declaring that its valid to assault anyone they’ve branded as fascist.

end of the road

gctest50 wrote: »

There was a court order telling them to gtf out of the building

Where were all the protesters when that court was on ?

Why didn't the protesters hire lawyers and whatnot to put their "case" forward ?

Couldn't get time off work maybe ? lol

perhapse they did have lawyers. or if not, as you said, perhapse they couldn't get time off work. it's not something we will know (for now at least)
as we know, a lot of protesters do actually work.

The Nal wrote: »

If you break into someones property and refuse to leave and end up getting arrested or getting the shít kicked out of you, tough titties.

What did they expect?! They broke into someones private property.

As for the owner, according to Take Back the City themselves, the she has worked in a humanitarian capacity in Romania for years, worked for the non profit Women for Election and is now director of The Irish Environmental Conservation Organisation For Youth Unesco Clubs.

Seems like an upstanding member of society who does a lot of good right?

So lets break into her property.

These people are scum. As is anyone who thinks breaking and entering is ok.

arrested, yes. the shít kicked out of you, not tough titties as it's asalt.

[Deleted User]

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Did he stand in some election to become a representative of the people?

Why are you asking me?

I'm just saying what I heard on the radio; nobody claimed that he was a public representative.

Do all activists have to be local election candidates or something?

Samsong

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Someone who wouldn't like anyone to break into my house.

That's nice.
Who are you?

dxhound2005

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Why are you asking me?

I'm just saying what I heard on the radio; nobody claimed that he was a public representative.

Do all activists have to be local election candidates or something?

If a candidate stood on a policy of breaking into houses to achieve political aims, would you vote for them?

[Deleted User]

dxhound2005 wrote: »

If a candidate stood on a policy of breaking into houses to achieve political aims, would you vote for them?

Who are you on about, Michael Davitt?

I'd definitely vote for Michael Davitt.

dxhound2005

He's dead.

20Cent

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Did he stand in some election to become a representative of the people?

Citizens are allowed express opinions without having to be elected. Most people we hear on the radio haven't been elected.

Wheeliebin30

Right so the government have announced billions of tax payers money to be spent housing spongers and wasters over the next decade.

Is that enough for these morons to go way now?

What more do they want?

Samsong

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Right so the government have announced billions of tax payers money to be spent housing spongers and wasters over the next decade.

Is that enough for these morons to go way now?

What more do they want?

I just announced to the family that I will be traveling to the moon on Wednesday.

Wheeliebin30

Samsong wrote: »

I just announced to the family that I will be traveling to the moon on Wednesday.

Good comparison, seriously.

So far this year there is 4,000 social houses, too much if you ask me.

Samsong

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Good comparison, seriously.

So far this year there is 4,000 social houses, too much if you ask me.

Some sort of tent city in Leitrim would be more suitable

end of the road

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Right so the government have announced billions of tax payers money to be spent housing spongers and wasters over the next decade.

Is that enough for these morons to go way now?

What more do they want?

what spongers and wasters?
lots and lots of people both in social housing, and struggling in this current crisis, work. are they all "spongers and wasters" dispite working?

[Deleted User]

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Right so the government have announced billions of tax payers money to be spent housing spongers and wasters over the next decade.

How many times has that been announced? it's not new.

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

So far this year there is 4,000 social houses, too much if you ask me.

That figure is wrong, this has been pointed out to you earlier in the thread.

20Cent

We are close to full employment currently. It's not spongers and wasters effeted by this housing crisis it's hitting almost everyone. Couples with decent fulltime jobs are struggling to keep a roof over their heads.

Yer Da sells Avon

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Good comparison, seriously.

So far this year there is 4,000 social houses, too much if you ask me.

What do you think working people who can't afford a mortgage should do?

Samsong

Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »

What do you think working people who can't afford a mortgage should do?

He is probably not feeling the "boom" despite commuting long distances and working even longer hours. It's easier to blame the poor

NasserShammaz

Samsong wrote: »

Some sort of tent city in Leitrim would be more suitable

Why does everyone always say send em to Leitrim Feck off send them to Cavan

Wheeliebin30

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

How many times has that been announced? it's not new.

That figure is wrong, this has been pointed out to you earlier in the thread.

I responded to you showing the link that it’s true????

I’ll do it again so

Wheeliebin30

Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »

What do you think working people who can't afford a mortgage should do?

Save like everyone had too you know for generations before.

Except spongers and wasters of course, case in point mrs cash.

Wheeliebin30

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

How many times has that been announced? it's not new.

That figure is wrong, this has been pointed out to you earlier in the thread.

https://www.google.com...798-Apr2018/%3famp=1

Diving into the figures. a total of 4,969 new social housing units will be actually built this year (about 2,700 more than last year).

[Deleted User]

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

I responded to you showing the link that it’s true????

I responded too, showing you that the true figure of local authority builds is a small fraction of that.

Maybe you didn't see it, or maybe you didn't read your own link.

edit: ah, you didn't read your own link.

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

https://www.google.com...798-Apr2018/%3famp=1

Diving into the figures. a total of 4,969 new social housing units will be actually built this year (about 2,700 more than last year).

That's a projection which relates to a combination of private builds and local authority builds. It has no factual basis in what has been built.

a good guide to use might be the fact that Dublin City Council built 197 local authority units last year.

Wheeliebin30

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

I responded too, showing you that the true figure of local authority builds is a small fraction of that.

Maybe you didn't see it, or maybe you didn't read your own link.

edit: ah, you didn't read your own link.

That's a projection which relates to a combination of private builds and local authority builds. It has no factual basis in what has been built.

a good guide to use might be the fact that Dublin City Council built 197 local authority units last year.

I’m talking about this year.