FrancieBrady wrote: » You want to drag her daughter and her medical history into the campaign?
Matt Barrett wrote: » The election is hyped up beyond all reason. I smell a dragon PR campaign. If these people had any real civic interest they'd be running for an office with the power to do something. It's all waffle. If I were Higgins I'd leave them to it, or merely laugh them off in debates.
jm08 wrote: » Well, she clearly agrees when she says this in her statement:
Zubeneschamali wrote: » Nonsense, there was a lot more hype last time. There was a fuss about who FG would nominate: Pat Cox, Mairead McGuinness, Avril Doyle and the winner, Gay Mitchell. It was no secret that Enda wanted Cox and did not get his way. Labour picked Higgins ahead of Fergus Finlay and Kathleen O'Meara. There was excitement about FF nominating Gaybo. None of that news has happened this time since FG, FF and Labour are all backing Higgins. By September last time, Norris had canvassed the Oireachteas, gotten a bunch of nominations, had 3 of them pull out, quit the race and then rejoined it via the CC route. By the end of September, 4 candidates had secured council nominations. This years election is a sideshow, since we all know Higgins will wipe the floor with all comers.
blanch152 wrote: » The public record shows that in private she rejects vaccines and refused to have her daughter vaccinated because she distrusted expert medical opinion. She put that out there on the public record, not me, not CorkFM, not any other politician. Now SF, on her behalf, have released a vacuous ambiguous statement that appears to contradict her previous position on the issue but doesn't clarify that she actually had her daughter vaccinated. She had put it out there, time for her to clarify it. Otherwise, she is just another typical hypocritical politician.
VinLieger wrote: » No the reasons there were question marks over it is due to the conspiracy theorist, anti-vax, fear mongers in regret not understanding that correlation does not equal causation and unfortunately Ni Riada and other representatives chose to listen to them simply because they were the loudest most belligerent voice in the room at the time instead of the the experts and massive weight of evidence proving regret were wrong,
Late last year, various media outlets (including this publication) highlighted the cases of over 130 girls and their families who claimed that their daughters had become ill after having received the vaccine.The parents and their daughters, many of whom are members of an advocacy group named REGRET (Reactions and Effects of Gardasil Resulting in Extreme Trauma), also had their efforts to find out what was the cause of their daughters’ illnesses chronicled in a documentary entitled Cervical Cancer Vaccine: Is it Safe?, which aired on Tv3 on 14 December. On 3 December 2015, representatives appeared before the Oireachtas Joint Committee on Health and Children. Their concerns and issues were raised in the D by TDs including Maureen O’Sullivan and Michael Moynihan. “Our lives were never the same following the Gardasil HPV vaccination of our daughters, with years taken from them, their parents, siblings and grandparents,” REGRET spokesperson Anna Cannon told the committee in her opening address.
FrancieBrady wrote: » She has made a very definitive statement on her view of vaccines and only had to do it because there are people who treat everything a SF rep says with suspicion. There doesn't seem to be any ambiguity to me (maybe you could point it out) in her public stance, which is all that matters really. I have no idea (and no expectation to know) how Michael D feels privately about many issues. Shameful for those desperate for an 'angle of attack' on a not yet nominated candidate to try to involve her daughter.
jm08 wrote: » So nothing got to do with these people or this documentary? All just a conspiracy theory then?
blanch152 wrote: » REGRET have been debunked time and again. They make Wakefield look like a competent scientist.
blanch152 wrote: » Shameful that she involved her daughter in a public discussion about vaccines and created this issue.
FrancieBrady wrote: » That is her business frankly and right to do in an interview. You are trying to pry her daughters medical information to use it as a stick to beat the mother, when the mother has clearly outlined her opinion and stance on the matter.
batgoat wrote: » And as a public representative, she was expressing a view that puts other teenager's lives in danger. I have very little time for politicians like that. We have an opportunity to entirely eliminate things such as cervical cancer and she actively worked against that.
FrancieBrady wrote: » As a parent myself, I remember the scare stories and they did reach a fairly intense level for a while (such is the social media world we live in) if that hadn't happened then uptake would not have fallen and the HSE would not have to have run an awareness campaign, as the articles state. Discussing concerns is not 'actively working against' anything, stop exaggerating. :rolleyes:
blanch152 wrote: » Deflection from the main issue. Once again, Sinn Fein close ranks whenever one of theirs is challenged. The woman has to come clean. Given the remarks back then, there are already serious questions about her judgement. If she is a CJH type, "do what I say not what I do", she is unfit for public life.
Zubeneschamali wrote: » It wasn't doable - he only resigned from FF's governing body, the Ard Comhairle, in January that year. Pretending in October that you don't remember being on the central committee that runs Fianna Fail the previous January is simply not credible.
FrancieBrady wrote: » classic. Woman goes on air to discuss intense concerns being aired publicly. Now depicted as an active anti vaxxer. Despite having more than adequately clarified for the sensationalists among us who have nothing else to throw at her. I won't be voting for Liadh for the reasons stated earlier, but in the words of somebody famous, 'is this all you got' Blanch?
blanch152 wrote: » Liadh Ni Riain, in her own words, said that she did not vaccinate her daughter. She is now telling the rest of us that vaccines are fine. If you don't have a problem with that, you are living in a surreal world.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Do you know if Michael D's children are vaccinated? Exactly, you don't, and you have no business knowing either. :
marieholmfan wrote: » His youngest kid is like 45 so there were fewer vaccinations and you couldn't go to school without them.
Hurrache wrote: » Awareness Campaigns are part of their scope.
FrancieBrady wrote: » The anti Shinners do know how to scrape barrels.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Wasn't really my point. If the HSE were doing their job, they wouldn't have had to do an 'awareness campaign', wouldn't you think? There was a fairly intensive period of scare stories. A woman is now paying the price (vilification) for being concerned about a lack of info about the effects of a chemical she was allowing to be put into her daughter. The anti Shinners do know how to scrape barrels.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Discussing people's concerns in public is part of the scope of a good public representative too.And if she did any different to that I have yet to see it. She is being routinely called an anti-vaxxer here on this thread. Is that justifiable?
batgoat wrote: » The need for the awareness campaign was fear mongering which was orchestrated by groups such as Regret and politicians who used it for political point scoring. So no, not god help her. She scare mongered and endangered lives as a direct result.
FrancieBrady wrote: » So nobody was concerned? Anyone with a concern was an 'anti vaxxer' with an interest only in scaremongering? Ridiculous. As ridiculous as suggesting the HSE has a blemish free record on properly informing the public.
batgoat wrote: » Eh, at the time it was clear that it was fear mongering if one had the time to look into the background of groups like regret. Which a politician does. Numerous expert groups across the globe versus a group called regret(Their research included Garry Null, aids denier and radio host)... The HSE were not the only supporters of the vaccines and it was proven to be safe at the time. So justify away but the reality is, cervical cancer is potentially eradicated in Australia thanks to the high uptake.https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/mar/04/australia-could-become-first-country-to-eradicate-cervical-cancer So I've got feck all time for those who scare mongered on it....
