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Serena's meltdown

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Being an admirer of what she has done on court and proving that mothers can be excellent athletes after giving birth, a different side of Serena Williams may have been exposed in her outburst at the US Open yesterday.

But here's the deal after watching a number of reports of the incident, I am amazed by the amount of people rushing to support her. Experts in tennis validated the sanctions imposed by the umpire; yet still she publicly called him a liar and a cheat, and said that she was "here fighting for womens rights" and the umpire sanctioned her because she was a woman. She said if a man was on court, it would not have happened. So the umpire, according to Serena, was a sexist, liar, and cheat. And she said all of this on the court in front of a massive crowd and on live TV.

Speaking to the media after the event, she said it was "sexist" of the umpire to take a game away from her. "But I'm going to continue to fight for women.", she said. Some of her supporters have accused the umpire of being racist and that he was on a misogynistic power trip. Get a grip, it was a tennis game; not a human rights march.

You can go online to see her outbursts yesterday, but I find it mind boggling that so much these days is attributed to sexism/racism/whateverism when things don't go their way.

Meanwhile, Naomi Osaka, who became the first Japanese player to win a major singles final, was left in tears as a result of the incident.

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Bob Harris

johnpatrick81 wrote: »

Yes. It is.

Player Analysis Technology Rules

RULES OF TENNIS 2018 - RULE 30. COACHING

30. COACHING

Coaching is considered to be communication, advice or instruction of any kind and by any means to a player.

Case 1: Is a player allowed to be coached, if the coaching is given by signals in a discreet way?
Decision: No.

Her coach gave her siganls, she get's the punishment on court. See them or not that's the rule.

I reckon it's a conspiracy between her coach and the ref to cheat her out if it.
Male supremacy ruling it's iron fist over women just cos they're men and they can.

johnpatrick81

blade1 wrote: »

No, one rule for all.
If she had a problem she should complain about the refs that left men off with it and not when the rule is applied.

You are talking out of your hole.

Thanks Wesley Snipes. My hole is talking more sense than a lot in here this morning.

It happens in all sports. Rules not implemented consistently. I totally empathize with her in this situation.

2 rules rarely instilled. Suddenly both are strictly adhered to by the umpire. In the same match. What are the chances?!?

Sexism.
Unfair.

Nermal

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Serena Williams Steubenville comments...

I had to Google this one. What a piece of work.

Alf Veedersane

For someone railing against sexism in tennis, I didn't hear her outrage at Cornet's ridiculous code violation for taking off her shirt to put it on the right way around.

Strazdas

lertsnim wrote: »

This is far from the first time that Serena Williams let her mask slip. She is a horrible excuse for a human being. She cheated last night and her coach verified it. All she did last night was ruin what should have been a fantastic moment for Naomi Osaka.

Yes indeed : "It's all about ME", even at the post-match press conference. Disgraceful carry on from a former champion.

The Talking Bread

johnpatrick81 wrote: »

It’s 100% about her seeing it.

:rolleyes:

She even admitted to seeing his gesture and he admitted he was coaching her! Keep up!!

He made it clear why he was penalising her and only issued her with a standard warning.

The rules state that

Communications of any kind, audible or visible, between a player and a coach may be construed as coaching."

AND that, also, players are responsible for the conduct of their parties,

Ramos spotted Mouratoglou holding his hands apart, indicating to Williams that she should be playing a little closer to the baseline, and instantly handed her a code violation.

suicide_circus

Strazdas wrote: »

Williams should issue a fulsome apology to the umpire, after making a series of outrageous allegations against him.

She ended up hijacking the final and making it all about her, overshadowing Osaka's deserved win.....a display of very bad sportsmanship.

squawker

johnpatrick81 wrote: »

Until men get the same punishment then she’s spot on

just complete nonsense and cherry picking whatever you want to suit your stance

johnpatrick81

Bob Harris wrote: »

No it isn't.

Yes. It is.

Bob Harris

johnpatrick81 wrote: »

It’s 100% about her seeing it.

No it isn't.

johnpatrick81

squawker wrote: »

if you keep on shouting that

it still doesn't make it true

she and her coach broke the rules and deserves everything that's coming to her

Until men get the same punishment then she’s spot on.

Djokovic bouncing the ball for 2 minutes before each serve is far more worthy of a warning than anything Serena did yesterday.

padd b1975

johnpatrick81 wrote: »

The rule is if the player received coaching. She says she didn’t. Yes he tried. Punish him, throw him out of the arena, don’t punish the innocent party.

It’s like giving a player a yellow if the manager ran on the pitch with instructions.

She's long enough on the tour to know better.

How hard is it for her to say "No signals whatsoever when I'm on court"?

But as usual the blame lies elsewhere, this time with the guy charged to enforce the championship rules.

blade1

johnpatrick81 wrote: »

Sexism
In
Tennis
One rule for men and another for her, a female

No, one rule for all.
If she had a problem she should complain about the refs that left men off with it and not when the rule is applied.

You are talking out of your hole.

The Talking Bread

Serena Williams.............champion of anti-sexism

"After watching a news report about the a case in which 2 guys who gangraped a 16 year old girl, in which one of the boys photographed the victim naked, Williams, 31, conceded that the guys "did something stupid" but asked: "Do you think it's fair, what they got?" (they received a ONE year custodial sentence in a juvenile centre)

"I'm not blaming the girl, but if you're a 16-year-old and you're drunk like that, your parents should teach you: Don't take drinks from other people!"

She added: "It could have been much worse. She's lucky. Obviously, I don't know, maybe she wasn't a virgin, but she shouldn't have put herself in that position, unless they slipped her something, then that's different."

lertsnim

This is far from the first time that Serena Williams let her mask slip. She is a horrible excuse for a human being. She cheated last night and her coach verified it. All she did last night was ruin what should have been a fantastic moment for Naomi Osaka.

squawker

johnpatrick81 wrote: »

Sexism

if you keep on shouting that

it still doesn't make it true

she and her coach broke the rules and deserves everything that's coming to her

Strazdas

Williams should issue a fulsome apology to the umpire, after making a series of outrageous allegations against him.

She ended up hijacking the final and making it all about her, overshadowing Osaka's deserved win.....a display of very bad sportsmanship.

johnpatrick81

Bob Harris wrote: »

Not about her seeing it, it's about her coach doing it.

It’s 100% about her seeing it.

johnpatrick81

Bob Harris wrote: »

Serena's delirious comments were a lot more than just about tennis.

Sexism
In
Tennis
One rule for men and another for her, a female

Bob Harris

johnpatrick81 wrote: »

You do realize the violation only is justified if she received the coaching right?

Cos she vehemently denies seeing it.

So it’s not justified. And she’s damn right to stick up for herself.

Not about her seeing it, it's about her coach doing it.

Bob Harris

MonkeyTennis wrote: »

People who are interested in Tennis?

Serena's delirious comments were a lot more than just about tennis.

johnpatrick81

JustJoe7240 wrote: »

You do realise the coach came out and admitted he was coaching from the box right? Meaning the code violation was justified, whether you agree with it or not

You do realize the violation only is justified if she received the coaching right?

Cos she vehemently denies seeing it.

So it’s not justified. And she’s damn right to stick up for herself.

johnpatrick81

squawker wrote: »

don't think supporting a petulant womanchild is the way to go

she was bang out of order

you kept bringing up Mac to justify some sort of sexist agenda against Serena

and men can act with impunity on the Tennis circuit

I didn’t bring up Mac once

Replying to someone suggesting I was Mac with a gif of the great man?!

Men, male players, every tournament, in this current year, do much worse and go unpunished.

Sexism

MonkeyTennis

markodaly wrote: »

These Americans and those defending her are brain dead simpletons. Its all about an ism now.
And the media fawning her actions, yeap there is the reason right there that Trump is at least half right about the fake media.
The world is gone insane.

Wow .. do me a favour and read that back to yourself. Say it outloud.

JustJoe7240

johnpatrick81 wrote: »

Yes exactly, like getttng sent off for a valid second yellow when the first yellow was ridiculous.

You do realise the coach came out and admitted he was coaching from the box right? Meaning the code violation was justified, whether you agree with it or not

MonkeyTennis

Bob Harris wrote: »

"This is not fair. Because I am a woman you are going to take this away from me."

Fair enough Serena, who gives a shít.

People who are interested in Tennis?

johnpatrick81

padd b1975 wrote: »

She should be blaming her coach, they're both aware of the rules and the consequences of breaking them.

The rule is if the player received coaching. She says she didn’t. Yes he tried. Punish him, throw him out of the arena, don’t punish the innocent party.

It’s like giving a player a yellow if the manager ran on the pitch with instructions.

markodaly

These Americans and those defending her are brain dead simpletons. Its all about an ism now.
And the media fawning her actions, yeap there is the reason right there that Trump is at least half right about the fake media.
The world is gone insane.

Joe_ Public

Richard Hillman wrote: »

McEnroe was hated in his hay day, so your memory is poor at best. As time progressed, and his career ended people looked back in more of a lighter view of it.

The same will happen with Nick Kyrios. He'll have lots of YouTube highlights, people will look back and laugh but forget that he was a massive bellend.

I dont know if McEnroe was hated by his peers or not, maybe some of them, but to me he was a hero and i loved watching him play at wimbledon every year. Remember going to see him play Davis Cup match in the RDS and how much the crowd loved him. No comparison with Kyrgios though, McEnroe was a winner who tried to win every match, every point. Whatever about his behaviour, people responded to that.

johnpatrick81

Niles Crane wrote: »

She didn't get a point violation for the coaching incident she got a warning for it.

she got the point violation for smashing her racket which was a second offence and very black and white.

Yes exactly, like getttng sent off for a valid second yellow when the first yellow was ridiculous.