johnpatrick81 wrote: » It’s 100% about her seeing it.
lertsnim wrote: » This is far from the first time that Serena Williams let her mask slip. She is a horrible excuse for a human being. She cheated last night and her coach verified it. All she did last night was ruin what should have been a fantastic moment for Naomi Osaka.
The Talking Bread wrote: » Serena Williams Steubenville comments...
blade1 wrote: » No, one rule for all. If she had a problem she should complain about the refs that left men off with it and not when the rule is applied. You are talking out of your hole.
johnpatrick81 wrote: » Yes. It is.
Alf Veedersane wrote: » For someone railing against sexism in tennis, I didn't hear her outrage at Cornet's ridiculous code violation for taking off her shirt to put it on the right way around.
johnpatrick81 wrote: » Thanks Wesley Snipes. My hole is talking more sense than a lot in here this morning. It happens in all sports. Rules not implemented consistently. I totally empathize with her in this situation. 2 rules rarely instilled. Suddenly both are strictly adhered to by the umpire. In the same match. What are the chances?!? Sexism. Unfair.
suicide_circus wrote: »
Bob Harris wrote: » Player Analysis Technology Rules RULES OF TENNIS 2018 - RULE 30. COACHING 30. COACHING Coaching is considered to be communication, advice or instruction of any kind and by any means to a player. Case 1: Is a player allowed to be coached, if the coaching is given by signals in a discreet way? Decision: No. Her coach gave her siganls, she get's the punishment on court. See them or not that's the rule. I reckon it's a conspiracy between her coach and the ref to cheat her out if it. Male supremacy ruling it's iron fist over women just cos they're men and they can.
johnpatrick81 wrote: » Given to a player I.e. the player has to receive it.
johnpatrick81 wrote: » Errr she mentioned that in the press conference after
blade1 wrote: » I'm not Wesley Snipes. More rubbish spewing from you.
Bob Harris wrote: » How is it sexism? If she was playing against a man you might have some sort of an argument but that was the women's final and unless Osaka was hiding a mickey up her dress then it's not sexism.
Bob Harris wrote: » You're missing the point again. Slip off the blinkers just for a moment.
The Talking Bread wrote: » :rolleyes: She even admitted to seeing his gesture and he admitted he was coaching her! Keep up!! He made it clear why he was penalising her and only issued her with a standard warning. The rules state that Communications of any kind, audible or visible, between a player and a coach may be construed as coaching." AND that, also, players are responsible for the conduct of their parties, Ramos spotted Mouratoglou holding his hands apart, indicating to Williams that she should be playing a little closer to the baseline, and instantly handed her a code violation.
The Talking Bread wrote: » What is the point!
johnpatrick81 wrote: » Sexism In Tennis One rule for men and another for her, a female
Kivaro wrote: But here's the deal after watching a number of reports of the incident, I am amazed by the amount of people rushing to support her. Experts in tennis validated the sanctions imposed by the umpire; yet still she publicly called him a liar and a cheat, and said that she was "here fighting for womens rights" and the umpire sanctioned her because she was a woman. She said if a man was on court, it would not have happened. So the umpire, according to Serena, was a sexist, liar, and cheat. And she said all of this on the court in front of a massive crowd and on live TV.
Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: » She was playing against a woman. Same rules, same court, same umpire.
johnpatrick81 wrote: » Seems pretty simple to me. She’s right. Men have said far worse and gotten away with it. Did she see the coaching? Only she knows. A game penalty seems insane. In a final. Of a grand slam. Stupid umpire.
The Talking Bread wrote: » Basically, then, this post equates to ............ I don't know really what happened but sure I'll hop in on the thread, go against the common (and correct) consensus on her behaviour/the umpire decision and settle down for a "debate"
The Talking Bread wrote: » Saw this coming a mile off, as I said. I at least thought you would be graceful in conceding your ignorant POV when people called you out on it. Channeling your inner Serena it seems.
johnpatrick81 wrote: » An umpire who uses the same rulebook, but with different application of the rules, for men. Sexism.
Royale with Cheese wrote: » Sexism, lol. Let's just say the umpire was biased against her, that automatically makes it sexism right? She has previous in this area and let's face it, is a bit of a cúnt. Maybe the guy just didn't like her. For what it's worth I watch plenty of tennis and the way she spoke to that umpire does NOT happen all the time in men's games. It was a cut above your standard dissent. I did enjoy her getting the match referee out and having a good ol cry about it though.
Alf Veedersane wrote: » At best it was unfair. Just because something unfair happens to a woman doesn't mean it was sexist in the same way the same situation in the men's final wouldn't give rise to calls of sexism.
