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Serena's meltdown

Kivaro

Being an admirer of what she has done on court and proving that mothers can be excellent athletes after giving birth, a different side of Serena Williams may have been exposed in her outburst at the US Open yesterday.

But here's the deal after watching a number of reports of the incident, I am amazed by the amount of people rushing to support her. Experts in tennis validated the sanctions imposed by the umpire; yet still she publicly called him a liar and a cheat, and said that she was "here fighting for womens rights" and the umpire sanctioned her because she was a woman. She said if a man was on court, it would not have happened. So the umpire, according to Serena, was a sexist, liar, and cheat. And she said all of this on the court in front of a massive crowd and on live TV.

Speaking to the media after the event, she said it was "sexist" of the umpire to take a game away from her. "But I'm going to continue to fight for women.", she said. Some of her supporters have accused the umpire of being racist and that he was on a misogynistic power trip. Get a grip, it was a tennis game; not a human rights march.

You can go online to see her outbursts yesterday, but I find it mind boggling that so much these days is attributed to sexism/racism/whateverism when things don't go their way.

Meanwhile, Naomi Osaka, who became the first Japanese player to win a major singles final, was left in tears as a result of the incident.

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squawker

johnpatrick81 wrote: »

Anyway, just had to add a voice of support to her side of the argument in this thread..

don't think supporting a petulant womanchild is the way to go

she was bang out of order

johnpatrick81 wrote: »

Errr no I never said anything of the sort. You may be quoting the wrong person there...

you kept bringing up Mac to justify some sort of sexist agenda against Serena

and men can act with impunity on the Tennis circuit

MonkeyTennis

Richard Hillman wrote: »

McEnroe was hated in his hay day, so your memory is poor at best. As time progressed, and his career ended people looked back in more of a lighter view of it.

The same will happen with Nick Kyrios. He'll have lots of YouTube highlights, people will look back and laugh but forget that he was a massive bellend.

Thanks Dad. I was way out of line there.

PropJoe10

johnpatrick81 wrote: »

They don’t get accused of coaching in a final when it was very very questionable if she even saw the HAND SIGNALS!!

A point violation for your coach shaking his hand at you from the crowd. Ridic

That's called "whataboutism". If men are getting away with their coaches giving them hand signals during matches, then that should be looked at. It doesn't make what happened yesterday right, though.

If Williams' coach was caught, then he was unlucky, but it doesn't make any difference if others have gotten away with it. The umpire was right.

velo.2010

Ironic that many involved in tennis have been waiting longingly for Williams to break the Grand Slam record of the bigoted Margaret Court. Looks like tennis will get another vile character to remain etched at the top of the record books for decades to come!

The Talking Bread

j4vier wrote: »

Serena lost the match mentally more than physically.

With her experience, she should have known in which direction things were going and smashing the racket is totally avoidable if you can control your feelings. Same thing for insulting the ref. Easier said than done of course, but she is a champion and this is what is expected from champions.

She did well in the post match interview though not to bring it up. It would have made her look bad and unfair towards Osaka

I thought she was very smug and calculated in ho she conducted herself on the podium tbh, post game. Her "I know it isn't the result we all wanted" particularly was a horrible distraction from Osaka's win.

Osaka was rightfully distraught. Literally apologetic for being part of Serena's "injustice" and what should have been her victory stolen from her by the big bad sexist umpire

Bob Harris

"This is not fair. Because I am a woman you are going to take this away from me."

Fair enough Serena, who gives a shít.

johnpatrick81

Niles Crane wrote: »

She didn't get a point violation for the coaching incident she got a warning for it.

she got the point violation for smashing her racket which was a second offence and very black and white.

Yes exactly, like getttng sent off for a valid second yellow when the first yellow was ridiculous.

Joe_ Public

Richard Hillman wrote: »

McEnroe was hated in his hay day, so your memory is poor at best. As time progressed, and his career ended people looked back in more of a lighter view of it.

The same will happen with Nick Kyrios. He'll have lots of YouTube highlights, people will look back and laugh but forget that he was a massive bellend.

I dont know if McEnroe was hated by his peers or not, maybe some of them, but to me he was a hero and i loved watching him play at wimbledon every year. Remember going to see him play Davis Cup match in the RDS and how much the crowd loved him. No comparison with Kyrgios though, McEnroe was a winner who tried to win every match, every point. Whatever about his behaviour, people responded to that.

markodaly

These Americans and those defending her are brain dead simpletons. Its all about an ism now.
And the media fawning her actions, yeap there is the reason right there that Trump is at least half right about the fake media.
The world is gone insane.

johnpatrick81

padd b1975 wrote: »

She should be blaming her coach, they're both aware of the rules and the consequences of breaking them.

The rule is if the player received coaching. She says she didn’t. Yes he tried. Punish him, throw him out of the arena, don’t punish the innocent party.

It’s like giving a player a yellow if the manager ran on the pitch with instructions.

MonkeyTennis

Bob Harris wrote: »

"This is not fair. Because I am a woman you are going to take this away from me."

Fair enough Serena, who gives a shít.

People who are interested in Tennis?

JustJoe7240

johnpatrick81 wrote: »

Yes exactly, like getttng sent off for a valid second yellow when the first yellow was ridiculous.

You do realise the coach came out and admitted he was coaching from the box right? Meaning the code violation was justified, whether you agree with it or not

MonkeyTennis

markodaly wrote: »

These Americans and those defending her are brain dead simpletons. Its all about an ism now.
And the media fawning her actions, yeap there is the reason right there that Trump is at least half right about the fake media.
The world is gone insane.

Wow .. do me a favour and read that back to yourself. Say it outloud.

johnpatrick81

squawker wrote: »

don't think supporting a petulant womanchild is the way to go

she was bang out of order

you kept bringing up Mac to justify some sort of sexist agenda against Serena

and men can act with impunity on the Tennis circuit

I didn’t bring up Mac once

Replying to someone suggesting I was Mac with a gif of the great man?!

Men, male players, every tournament, in this current year, do much worse and go unpunished.

Sexism

johnpatrick81

JustJoe7240 wrote: »

You do realise the coach came out and admitted he was coaching from the box right? Meaning the code violation was justified, whether you agree with it or not

You do realize the violation only is justified if she received the coaching right?

Cos she vehemently denies seeing it.

So it’s not justified. And she’s damn right to stick up for herself.

Bob Harris

MonkeyTennis wrote: »

People who are interested in Tennis?

Serena's delirious comments were a lot more than just about tennis.

Bob Harris

johnpatrick81 wrote: »

You do realize the violation only is justified if she received the coaching right?

Cos she vehemently denies seeing it.

So it’s not justified. And she’s damn right to stick up for herself.

Not about her seeing it, it's about her coach doing it.

johnpatrick81

Bob Harris wrote: »

Serena's delirious comments were a lot more than just about tennis.

Sexism
In
Tennis
One rule for men and another for her, a female

johnpatrick81

Bob Harris wrote: »

Not about her seeing it, it's about her coach doing it.

It’s 100% about her seeing it.

Strazdas

Williams should issue a fulsome apology to the umpire, after making a series of outrageous allegations against him.

She ended up hijacking the final and making it all about her, overshadowing Osaka's deserved win.....a display of very bad sportsmanship.

squawker

johnpatrick81 wrote: »

Sexism

if you keep on shouting that

it still doesn't make it true

she and her coach broke the rules and deserves everything that's coming to her

lertsnim

This is far from the first time that Serena Williams let her mask slip. She is a horrible excuse for a human being. She cheated last night and her coach verified it. All she did last night was ruin what should have been a fantastic moment for Naomi Osaka.

The Talking Bread

Serena Williams.............champion of anti-sexism

"After watching a news report about the a case in which 2 guys who gangraped a 16 year old girl, in which one of the boys photographed the victim naked, Williams, 31, conceded that the guys "did something stupid" but asked: "Do you think it's fair, what they got?" (they received a ONE year custodial sentence in a juvenile centre)

"I'm not blaming the girl, but if you're a 16-year-old and you're drunk like that, your parents should teach you: Don't take drinks from other people!"

She added: "It could have been much worse. She's lucky. Obviously, I don't know, maybe she wasn't a virgin, but she shouldn't have put herself in that position, unless they slipped her something, then that's different."

blade1

johnpatrick81 wrote: »

Sexism
In
Tennis
One rule for men and another for her, a female

No, one rule for all.
If she had a problem she should complain about the refs that left men off with it and not when the rule is applied.

You are talking out of your hole.

padd b1975

johnpatrick81 wrote: »

The rule is if the player received coaching. She says she didn’t. Yes he tried. Punish him, throw him out of the arena, don’t punish the innocent party.

It’s like giving a player a yellow if the manager ran on the pitch with instructions.

She's long enough on the tour to know better.

How hard is it for her to say "No signals whatsoever when I'm on court"?

But as usual the blame lies elsewhere, this time with the guy charged to enforce the championship rules.

johnpatrick81

squawker wrote: »

if you keep on shouting that

it still doesn't make it true

she and her coach broke the rules and deserves everything that's coming to her

Until men get the same punishment then she’s spot on.

Djokovic bouncing the ball for 2 minutes before each serve is far more worthy of a warning than anything Serena did yesterday.

Bob Harris

johnpatrick81 wrote: »

It’s 100% about her seeing it.

No it isn't.

johnpatrick81

Bob Harris wrote: »

No it isn't.

Yes. It is.

squawker

johnpatrick81 wrote: »

Until men get the same punishment then she’s spot on

just complete nonsense and cherry picking whatever you want to suit your stance

suicide_circus

Strazdas wrote: »

Williams should issue a fulsome apology to the umpire, after making a series of outrageous allegations against him.

She ended up hijacking the final and making it all about her, overshadowing Osaka's deserved win.....a display of very bad sportsmanship.