The Rape of Lucretia wrote: » 'Fighting for womens rights' is the go to defence for any woman having a hissy fit these days it seems. Deserves a stronger sanction than just losing a point and a game - that kind of outburst is outrageous and was an extraordinarily selfish ruining of a great moment in Osaka's career - by all accounts she fully deserved her win against the odds, and it should have been nothing but a triumphant moment for her to enjoy rather than the brattish sideshow Williams made it. Outrageous.
squawker wrote: » acting like a spoiled child does not equal sexism hope she receives a huge fine and is forced to apologize for her disgusting behaviour
Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: » There's a bot of both to this: Serena has lost before and no reacted this badly, so I don't buy this attitude. Also, it was her coach who committed the first offence, not here. He made a hand gesture. She may not have seen it, or, even if she had seen it, had no control over it. Penalise the coach, ban the coach, send the coach to he locker room in that case. She also reacted to it. Professionals don't. They keep their head down, play better and use the incident to spur them on and focus. Serena didn't - she went into meltdown. Whether it was sexist or racist (in fairness, she only claimed the former as far as I know) should be easily proven: have men or white players been trated differently in the past when the same thing has happened? TL-DR - wasn't entirely her fault, but how she reacted is and that's what cost her the match.
Wanderer2010 wrote: » Is she the sister who killed a guy in a car crash? Maybe its PTSD.
Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: » TL-DR - wasn't entirely her fault, but how she reacted is and that's what cost her the match.
Mookie Blaylock wrote: » No, she's the sister who almost died after having a baby last year
Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: » There's a bot of both to this: Serena has lost before and not reacted this badly, so I don't buy the "sore loser" argument. Also, it was her coach who committed the first offence, not here. He made a hand gesture. She may not have seen it, or, even if she had seen it, had no control over it. Penalise the coach, ban the coach, send the coach to he locker room in that case. She also reacted to it. Professionals don't. They keep their head down, play better and use the incident to spur them on and focus. Serena didn't - she went into meltdown. They don't call the umpire a thief, and no one does this without consequences. Probably not in any sport. Whether it was sexist or racist (in fairness, she only claimed the former as far as I know) should be easily proven: have men or white players been trated differently in the past when the same thing has happened? TL-DR - wasn't entirely her fault, but how she reacted is and that's what cost her the match.
Corruptedmorals wrote: » It's a terrible thing to overshadow Osaka's historic victory. The coaching violation seems unfair but those are the rules and there's no comeback against the racket smash or verbal abuse. But I don't agree with criticising her for dress code breaches or drug testing frequency. Tennis' dress code is incredibly outdated and is not necessary to play the sport to full advantage unlike other sports where the uniform suits the movement required. Female players should be allowed wear shorts or trousers if they so wish. Serena breached it for medical reasons anyway. The drug testing frequency is a legit complaint, if one athlete is tested at a far greater frequency than their peers it does warrant criticism and questions. Simone Biles who also happens to be a superb black athlete miles beyond her peers is and has been tested at an alarming frequency compared to her competitors.
dxhound2005 wrote: » Are you saying that she would have won the match if none of the rulings had gone against her?
super_furry wrote: » Don't really agree with that. I watched the match in between watching Amir Khan show the world his glass chin again and no matter what happened Serena was going to lose that match. She was utterly outclassed in the first set and her melt-down was a reaction to the fact that she was going to lose, rather than the cause.
The Rape of Lucretia wrote: » Who broke her racket for her ? The coach, or the umpire ? When she already knew, peeved about it or not, that she was already on one violation.
Niles Crane wrote: » The best should always tested more often that the lesser players because if they are juicing it does massive damage to a sports credibility, they need to be tested more often to ensure they are clean.Someone ranked number 100 in the world is failing a drugs test will not do much damage to a sport, the number one in the world being a drug cheat does massive damage to a sport.
dxhound2005 wrote: » She also told the umpire that he would never umpire again when she is playing. I wonder how will that turn out.
erica74 wrote: » What I'm most appalled by is Serena robbing Naomi Osaka of her moment. Serena was once that young player starting out in the sport and she should know what it's like to have that first major win, she knows what that moment feels like and unfortunately, she has robbed Osaka of that. The usual suspects in the media are jumping on the poor Serena bandwagon, instead of celebrating Osaka and her mega achievement. And for the posters saying "all women" do this and that, remember Osaka is also a woman and she didn't act like an asshole and she is also representative of women.
