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Large Nigerian gang in Ireland involved in worldwide money laundering

Kivaro

You might have seen in the news yesterday the story about the large Nigerian money-laundering network operating in Ireland. It was the scope of the operation that surprised me.

A Nigerian national living in Ireland was the leader of the gang and he recruited over 100 fellow Nigerian nationals in Ireland to launder money which has been stolen in invoice redirection frauds from companies in Ireland and all around Europe. 15 homes in 5 counties across the country were raided by over 100 Gardai and high-priced items like Nissan X-Trail SUVs were removed from these premises. Gardaí have asked the banks in Ireland to close around 350 accounts suspected of being used in the fraud.
When describing the suspects in the case, the Garda Superintendent said that "Some of these people are working, some are on social welfare."

There are a number of questions to be asked when you read about the details of the case, for example, why were they no arrests made knowing that the Nigerian suspects who could easily abscond, and what is the situation with the Irish bank accounts of the non-nationals?

Watching the 6.1 RTE news yesterday, there was not one mention of the word "Nigerian/Nigeria"; they kept saying West African gang. I wonder if it is the same on the RTE website? I gave up on that site a long time ago because of their weird bias on news.
More information on the story can be found here.

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Irish Stones

Giraffe Box wrote: »

That's such a shame. It seems from the information given in your post that Italy would be virtually crime-free if it weren't for those pesky foreigners.

I've never said that, I said that a very high percentage of crimes committed in this country is to ascribe to foreigners.
It's not the same thing of being virtually crime-free without them. It's only that we would have fewer crimes.

This past summer will be probably remembered for the high number of rapes on girls and women in touristic places. Well, all victims (Italians or tourists) said that the perpetrators of the violences were one or more than one Africans, on all occasions.

When there's a ATM fraud we all think "Romanians" and we are proved right by the investigations.

It's clear to everybody here that the crime rate has increased several times since the mass immigration of the last years.

I also know that we Italians aren't clean at all, and in fact I never feel proud of my nationality abroad, and tend not to let others know where I come from unless specifically asked.
All the world is fully entitled to criticize us for what we have exported in the past, and in no way I contrast their opinion.

So, you're right to name all those names, it's a shame for us, I don't deny our past, present and future.

I'm only saying that we already have our criminals, without the need to import them from other countries.
And the rest of Europe should do the same.

Irish Stones

Star Bingo wrote: »

Irish Stones wrote: »

Beware of the migrants you accept in your country. We have serious problems over here, I can tell you from experience!

But how do we prevent it as long as the EU is facilitating these traffickers with its programme of population replacement.

Redistribution of migrants is a mantra, something asked by a very little number of EU countries, like Italy, Spain and Greece.
Just ignore them, let them talk, but just ignore them. One day they will be sick and tired of saying the same thing.
As a matter of fact several countries are already ignoring them. Especially the Eastern countries like Poland, Hungary, Czech Republic, and so on.
The redistribution plan is on a voluntary base, no country is obliged to take migrants on its territory.
Just do the same.

Discodog

Irish Stones wrote: »

This!

The first safe country to land in and claim asylum in is Italy, or Spain.
Italy has gotten some 700,000 migrants from Africa and Middle East in the last 4 years. The Italian governemt keeps complaining that Europe has to take its share, it's a mantra, in everyday news.

I'm against this. Let's Keep Europe out of this. Those migrants come to Italy, they have to stay in Italy, no redistribution to other European countries.
Italy doesn't want them here? Well, they shouldn't gather those migrants from the sea in the first place.

I'm Italian.

About 7 years ago I was on holiday in Ireland. I wanted to visit an old graveyard in the countryside, just outside Carlow Town. It happens that this graveyard is behind a business park, or something like that.
I was directed behind those buildings by a local, but when I was at the edge of the site, I found a cabin, the last "office" before the path to the graveyard.

Well, while I was walking past this cabin, a black man came out and blocked me and asked me what I was doing there. I told him I was going to the graveyard. He asked me to follow him and led me inside the cabin where a dozen of men just like him were sat around a table, doing nothing.
They blocked the door and questioned me, in a very bad English, what I was doing there. They didn't believe the story of the graveyard and kept asking me the same question over and over.

I can't deny I was scared to death. They were looking each other as to say "What are we going to do with him?".
Then they closed the question by simply telling me that no graveyard was nearby and they "kindly" led me out to my car.

I don't know what kind of business they were running in that cabin, but apart from that table, some chairs and a closet, I didn't see anything else.
I went there again two years later, and the cabin wasn't there anymore. And I was able to visit the graveyard.

Whether they were Nigerian or else, I don't know, but clearly they were trying to hide something!

Beware of the migrants you accept in your country. We have serious problems over here, I can tell you from experience!

Don't mention the Cosa Nostra :pac:

Giraffe Box

Discodog wrote: »

Don't mention the Cosa Nostra :pac:

I did....but I think I got away with it!

jmayo

Will I Am Not wrote: »

Do they teach fraud as a subject in Nigerian schools or something? When I first heard this story on the news, before any nationality was mentioned, I immediately thought... “Nigerian”.

Most Africans, non Nigerians mind, I have ever known have a very poor opinion of Nigerians.

Wibbs wrote: »

So we don't get worked up over Traveler criminality and gangs terrorising people, particularly elderly people across Ireland and ripping off the social welfare system? Really? Eh... we do. On these pages a lot more than Nigerian gangs.

The real laugh is the same ones now saying "shure what about the Irish traveller gangs" are the exact same fookers who are first on to defend the worst of traveller criminal behaviour.

2 Scoops

When I was doing a follow on course in an IT a long time ago about 6 Nigerians ended up on it. Everyone welcomed them initially but they started causing major problems. There was two Woman and four men. The Woman were constantly shouting at the lecturers and throwing things, the lecturers were males in most cases. These middle aged college type lecturers were very timid and polite and they weren't able to handle it. The males were pushing people out of their seats and taking their computers while doing lab courses etc, in other classes they were "begging" saying please please please repeatably for people to do their work for them and ofc some sucker would do it. Some of them were caught cheating during exams, it got so bad eventually the entire college board had to get involved to come up with a solution to deal with it.

At the end of the first year to complete the course and come back next year we had to go out on 6 months work experience. I look back on it now and realize the college heads took it upon themselves not to offer them places so they couldn't progress, or at least make it very difficult for them. The following year none of them were there and it came to a huge relief to everyone else. It was pure madness and disruption for 7 months and I've never witnessed anything like it.

Kivaro

2 Scoops wrote: »

When I was doing a follow on course in an IT a long time ago about 6 Nigerians ended up on it. Everyone welcomed them initially but they started causing major problems. There was two Woman and four men. The Woman were constantly shouting at the lecturers and throwing things, the lecturers were males in most cases. These middle aged college type lecturers were very timid and polite and they weren't able to handle it. The males were pushing people out of their seats and taking their computers while doing lab courses etc, in other classes they were "begging" saying please please please repeatably for people to do their work for them and ofc some sucker would do it. Some of them were caught cheating during exams, it got so bad eventually the entire college board had to get involved to come up with a solution to deal with it.

At the end of the first year to complete the course and come back next year we had to go out on 6 months work experience. I look back on it now and realize the college heads took it upon themselves not to offer them places so they couldn't progress, or at least make it very difficult for them. The following year none of them were there and it came to a huge relief to everyone else. It was pure madness and disruption for 7 months and I've never witnessed anything like it.

And this is when liberals will chirp in and say that the fault was with you, your classmates, the instructors, and the college administration for not working hard enough to integrate these 6 Nigerian "students" into your course. Irrespective of your collective efforts, the blame will be put on you.

Timid and polite Irish people: This seems to be how Nigerians are able to game the system in Ireland. How are so many Nigerians ending up on welfare and receiving housing very soon after arriving in Ireland?
And of course, when you object to their abhorrent behaviour, the "racist" accusations are screamed loudly by them.

smelly sock

Kivaro wrote: »

You might have seen in the news yesterday the story about the large Nigerian money-laundering network operating in Ireland. It was the scope of the operation that surprised me.

A Nigerian national living in Ireland was the leader of the gang and he recruited over 100 fellow Nigerian nationals in Ireland to launder money which has been stolen in invoice redirection frauds from companies in Ireland and all around Europe. 15 homes in 5 counties across the country were raided by over 100 Gardai and high-priced items like Nissan X-Trail SUVs were removed from these premises. Gardaí have asked the banks in Ireland to close around 350 accounts suspected of being used in the fraud.
When describing the suspects in the case, the Garda Superintendent said that "Some of these people are working, some are on social welfare."

There are a number of questions to be asked when you read about the details of the case, for example, why were they no arrests made knowing that the Nigerian suspects who could easily abscond, and what is the situation with the Irish bank accounts of the non-nationals?

Watching the 6.1 RTE news yesterday, there was not one mention of the word "Nigerian/Nigeria"; they kept saying West African gang. I wonder if it is the same on the RTE website? I gave up on that site a long time ago because of their weird bias on news.
More information on the story can be found here.

You have to understand that the guys come from harsh poverty where it is literally kill or be killed. Then they manage to get out of it and arrive in Ireland to try and create a better life. We in turn put them in direct provision amd dont let them have the dignity of working. Our system is as much to blame i fear.

smelly sock

Scruffy But Cool wrote: »

We should not be importing them in the first.

Im not so sure. We populated the rest of the world with dregs for hundreds of years. Shoe is on the other foot now.

smelly sock

Scruffy But Cool wrote: »

Because Irish emigrated in the past we have to let everyone into our country? I never understood this 'argument'.

No. Not at all.

enricoh

smelly sock wrote: »

Im not so sure. We populated the rest of the world with dregs for hundreds of years. Shoe is on the other foot now.

Sounds great , should we send our naval ships out of the Mediterranean and tell them to load up to the gills at some port in Nigeria. Save them paying a few grand to the smugglers and the hassle. Sod it, just put on direct flights to Lagos , handier still

jay0109

smelly sock wrote: »

You have to understand that the guys come from harsh poverty where it is literally kill or be killed. Then they manage to get out of it and arrive in Ireland to try and create a better life. We in turn put them in direct provision amd dont let them have the dignity of working. Our system is as much to blame i fear.

Wow. That's some seriously innocent rationale at play there

enricoh

smelly sock wrote: »

You have to understand that the guys come from harsh poverty where it is literally kill or be killed. Then they manage to get out of it and arrive in Ireland to try and create a better life. We in turn put them in direct provision amd dont let them have the dignity of working. Our system is as much to blame i fear.

Yeah they aren't allowed the dignity of working nor the dignity of the dole. Although the government has sped up the process of giving the spoofers that are refused asylum an amnesty . 72% more have arrived this year than last as a result! Who could have guessed that would happen?!!

Will I Am Not

smelly sock wrote: »

You have to understand that the guys come from harsh poverty where it is literally kill or be killed. Then they manage to get out of it and arrive in Ireland to try and create a better life. We in turn put them in direct provision amd dont let them have the dignity of working. Our system is as much to blame i fear.

Is it really wise to be accepting people into the country from places where crime and violence is a way of life and human life holds such little value?

jay0109

Will I Am Not wrote: »

Is it really wise to be accepting people into the country from places where crime and violence is a way of life and human life holds such little value?

Of course not, but our betters in Govt both here and in Brussels want to change the demographics as we're too Irish at the moment.

Anyways most of the Nigerians that have come here are from a middle class background back home. They've made a career choice to come here and it's not via the dinghys in the med. They're paying for passports, papers etc to get into Europe and then on to here.
They're not from the slums of Lagos

Galwayguy35

smelly sock wrote: »

You have to understand that the guys come from harsh poverty where it is literally kill or be killed. Then they manage to get out of it and arrive in Ireland to try and create a better life. We in turn put them in direct provision amd dont let them have the dignity of working. Our system is as much to blame i fear.

Yeah it's the system all right, nobody asked them to come here in the first place so they can fook off back to where they came from if they don't like it.

gctest50

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Yeah it's the system all right, nobody asked them to come here in the first place so they can fook off back to where they came from if they don't like it.

Need to sort out the inbreeding here one way or another

enricoh

gctest50 wrote: »

Need to sort out the inbreeding here one way or another

What positives will people from third world countries bring to Ireland? Eh, well, eh, they will sort out our inbreeding! Epic stuff!

listermint

2 Scoops wrote: »

When I was doing a follow on course in an IT a long time ago about 6 Nigerians ended up on it. Everyone welcomed them initially but they started causing major problems. There was two Woman and four men. The Woman were constantly shouting at the lecturers and throwing things, the lecturers were males in most cases. These middle aged college type lecturers were very timid and polite and they weren't able to handle it. The males were pushing people out of their seats and taking their computers while doing lab courses etc, in other classes they were "begging" saying please please please repeatably for people to do their work for them and ofc some sucker would do it. Some of them were caught cheating during exams, it got so bad eventually the entire college board had to get involved to come up with a solution to deal with it.

At the end of the first year to complete the course and come back next year we had to go out on 6 months work experience. I look back on it now and realize the college heads took it upon themselves not to offer them places so they couldn't progress, or at least make it very difficult for them. The following year none of them were there and it came to a huge relief to everyone else. It was pure madness and disruption for 7 months and I've never witnessed anything like it.

Which college was it ? How was it 6 Nigerians ended up on it .

How were you privy to college board meetings ?

Semesters run from sept to may meaning they are 9 months long. And youd have 3 months till following year. So we're did the 6 months placement come in.

Not saying it's not true but its a perfect story only for it lacking credibility

2 Scoops

listermint wrote: »

Which college was it ? How was it 6 Nigerians ended up on it .

How were you privy to college board meetings ?

Semesters run from sept to may meaning they are 9 months long. And youd have 3 months till following year. So we're did the 6 months placement come in.

Not saying it's not true but its a perfect story only for it lacking credibility

IT Carlow, the course was shorter because of the work placement. IIRC it ran from September to March then you went on placement until September. It ran on springboard or whatever the equivalent was back then so anyone could apply to it for free.

You can believe what you want and argue over semantics, it's not something I'd randomly make up and lie about.

listermint

2 Scoops wrote: »

IT Carlow, the course was shorter because of the work placement. IIRC it ran from September to March then you went on placement until September. It ran on springboard or whatever the equivalent was back then so anyone could apply to it for free.

You can believe what you want and argue over semantics, it's not something I'd randomly make up and lie about.

Can't tell there are mad characters on this board.

weldoninhio

smelly sock wrote: »

You have to understand that the guys come from harsh poverty where it is literally kill or be killed. Then they manage to get out of it and arrive in Ireland to try and create a better life. We in turn put them in direct provision amd dont let them have the dignity of working. Our system is as much to blame i fear.

What an absolute nonsensical bull**** post. Jesus Christ.

Autochange

The Voodoo will get all of you

TCM

Kivaro wrote:

You might have seen in the news yesterday the story about the large Nigerian money-laundering network operating in Ireland. It was the scope of the operation that surprised me.

Kivaro wrote:

A Nigerian national living in Ireland was the leader of the gang and he recruited over 100 fellow Nigerian nationals in Ireland to launder money which has been stolen in invoice redirection frauds from companies in Ireland and all around Europe. 15 homes in 5 counties across the country were raided by over 100 Gardai and high-priced items like Nissan X-Trail SUVs were removed from these premises. GardaÃ have asked the banks in Ireland to close around 350 accounts suspected of being used in the fraud. When describing the suspects in the case, the Garda Superintendent said that "Some of these people are working, some are on social welfare."

Kivaro wrote:

There are a number of questions to be asked when you read about the details of the case, for example, why were they no arrests made knowing that the Nigerian suspects who could easily abscond, and what is the situation with the Irish bank accounts of the non-nationals?

Kivaro wrote:

Watching the 6.1 RTE news yesterday, there was not one mention of the word "Nigerian/Nigeria"; they kept saying West African gang. I wonder if it is the same on the RTE website? I gave up on that site a long time ago because of their weird bias on news. More information on the story can be found

Did this happen in Balbriggan?

KevinCavan

Is it racist to say that Nigerians are known for scam and criminality? I’m sure there are plenty of African countries that don’t engage in the same levels of criminality, but Nigerians do have a bad name. Maybe I’m just a racist.

humberklog

smelly sock wrote: »

You have to understand that the guys come from harsh poverty where it is literally kill or be killed. Then they manage to get out of it and arrive in Ireland to try and create a better life. We in turn put them in direct provision amd dont let them have the dignity of working. Our system is as much to blame i fear.

Which countries that you speak of are "kill or be killed"?

Your generalisation smacks of old an style colonial dismissiveness of nations and cultures considered to be less civilised than European norms.

smelly sock

If these guys were white this thread wouldnt exist.

wally1990

KevinCavan wrote: »

Is it racist to say that Nigerians are known for scam and criminality? I’m sure there are plenty of African countries that don’t engage in the same levels of criminality, but Nigerians do have a bad name. Maybe I’m just a racist.

Yes it is racist but the fact here is it was Nigerians anyway

Theses type of criminal activities always have me admiring them (dare I say it ) and how they get away with it

Bigger fools the victims( companies that is)
I heard they were creating fake invoice and saying they are X/Y supplier and to pay the money to the *new* bank account

I mean come on like .... what fool is on the other end transferring thousands of euro

surely you’d pick up the phone and ring the supplier and confirm such requests no?
Am I naive?

Mookie Blaylock

smelly sock wrote: »

If these guys were white this thread wouldnt exist.

A gang of 100 albino Nigerians would make world headlines!

Collie D

Mookie Blaylock wrote: »

A gang of 100 albino Nigerians would make world headlines!

:):)