sonnybill wrote: » What are good big char cows R+ going in factory?
charolais0153 wrote: » 3. 50
sonnybill wrote: » Only have the 1 to go , might try her out in mart Saturday
sonnybill wrote: » 785 kg lw 1340, not great , if I had plenty grass and the motivation to feed her meal every evening for 6 weeks I might have got her into a U , 820 x0.52 ko = 426.4kg dw x 360p E1535 but no time at the minute take E50 for meal take E50 for haulier and even less out of it ,
dryan wrote: » Bullocks back to 3.80 this week in the midlands.
Cavanjack wrote: » A great bunch of lads
Bass Reeves wrote: » Martin Coughlan in his article on factory prices has a bit at the end about the imbalance of power between farmers and processors. He equates it to 15 lads turning up for a football team that have never played togeather before against a well organised team. As he put it the results is a foregone conclusion. He is critical of the farm organisations. In reality this is why most beef finishers have left farm organisations over the last 2-3 years and stopped paying levies.
wrangler wrote: » Bass Reeves wrote: » Martin Coughlan in his article on factory prices has a bit at the end about the imbalance of power between farmers and processors. He equates it to 15 lads turning up for a football team that have never played togeather before against a well organised team. As he put it the results is a foregone conclusion. He is critical of the farm organisations. In reality this is why most beef finishers have left farm organisations over the last 2-3 years and stopped paying levies. I'm amused to see him equating it to a football team where poor performance usually is blamed on the manager and the team sacks the manager and continues on in ignorance. Last time the media arrived at a local protest I couldn't even find find a beef farmer to talk to them...plenty of dairy alright and a few sheep farmers...sure sack the manager Farmers should get their fingers out now and form groups, it wouldn't do farmers a bit of harm to show a bit of backbone
kk.man wrote: » MII has rejected groups for beef farmers. I'd say agents wouldn't be too happy either.
whelan2 wrote: » When was the last beef protest?
wrangler wrote: » 2014, I think
whelan2 wrote: » I wonder what the price was then?
Willfarman wrote: » 2014 after the processors had made a killing off pure opportunism and when the glut of cattle finally passed and prices were inevitabley going to rise there was a protest.. and of course they came to the gates of slaney to protest against Larry’s purchase of the same. Tremendous stuff altogether.
Willfarman wrote: » There is a lot of truth in that wrangler.. a lot of farmers are selfish greedy ffckers with one eye on their neighbors acre! If we were united, produced and set a bar for sales price above the cost of production and refused to produce for less and had the sense to pocket our sfp we would have Larry like a lamb.. but it’s not an ideal world. Greed, stupidity and vanity has us where we are.
coolshannagh28 wrote: » Willfarman wrote: » There is a lot of truth in that wrangler.. a lot of farmers are selfish greedy ffckers with one eye on their neighbors acre! If we were united, produced and set a bar for sales price above the cost of production and refused to produce for less and had the sense to pocket our sfp we would have Larry like a lamb.. but it’s not an ideal world. Greed, stupidity and vanity has us where we are. As farming income is essentially the subsidy could farmers not withdraw their product as its a break even at the best of times ?
Cavanjack wrote: » Have there been any beef producer groups set up yet or why is it not happening?
kk.man wrote: » It's not all the factories fault. They process cattle just above the cost of production however they have huge volume. It's the fifth quarter is where the big bucks are made. Only a few control that side of the game but they control the trade as a result. The biggest margin is made by the supermarkets which only have to provide self space. They in turn keep the factories under their tumb.
patsy_mccabe wrote: » How can producer groups work when you don't have any leverage over the factories? What do you threaten them with?
Willfarman wrote: » kk.man wrote: » It's not all the factories fault. They process cattle just above the cost of production however they have huge volume. It's the fifth quarter is where the big bucks are made. Only a few control that side of the game but they control the trade as a result. The biggest margin is made by the supermarkets which only have to provide self space. They in turn keep the factories under their tumb. Have you never see the Irish rich list then or had a read up on the bould Larry? Truth is we haven’t a clue who’s making what but keep supplying and bend over year with pants down for the beef barons and retailers. https://amp.independent.ie/business/farming/beef-barons-worth-over-2billion-34475145.html
