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Should Dublin ban Burqas and Hijabs?

Skinhead Kane

Greetings guys and girls,

I have been thinking about this topic for quite some time now and have yet to make a real judgement on what truly would be a correct answer. If were to go to a country populated by the Muslim community we would be asked to cover up and follow their religious procedure.

Therefore in Britain and Ireland I believe we are within our rights to ban something that isolates woman and was made by men to oppress them. If I were to show my hair/head in their countries, I would be seen as obscene.

Recently came back from a trip and had some female friends been told by locals to cover their arms and legs as well as hair before entering out of the city centre areas. It was a very aggressive approach to and almost demanded 'or we leave the country' type of attitude. Now not using this as a reason or motive to make this topic, but it has however got me thinking.

If I could vote on it, I would ban burqas and possibly hijab.

What's your take on this guys?

Regards,

Sk

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wakka12

Big whoop over nothing
its like transgender toilets non issue
I have very rarely seen burkas or hijabs in dublin and when I do see them I don't give a fcuk

RustyNut

theballz wrote: »

Non-Muslim countries give every freedom to Muslims, but Muslims never give any freedom to their minorities.

Denmark have done it, we should too.

So you think the Muslim way is right? People should only be able to dress the way the government say? I'd prefer to let people choose to wear whatever they want.

If we are going to ban certain people wearing certain items of clothing then I propose that we ban obviously non sporting people from wearing track suits.

timthumbni

I would ban them from public buildings and shops etc. Just like I would ban anyone wearing ski masks/balaclavas from these places. It makes sense.

Cleopatra_

I'm not overly delighted when I see a woman wearing a Niqab, and I see it a lot more here in the UK. It is a sign of oppression to me, even if many of the women who wear it are choosing to do so. However, I'm not really that comfortable with a government banning an item of clothing either, that seems very restrictive too, especially because it most likely alienates these women further.

timthumbni

Cleopatra_ wrote: »

I'm not overly delighted when I see a woman wearing a Niqab, and I see it a lot more here in the UK. It is a sign of oppression to me, even if many of the women who wear it are choosing to do so. However, I'm not really that comfortable with a government banning an item of clothing either, that seems very restrictive too, especially because it most likely alienates these women further.

Women in Muslim society are very much second class citizens within their own type. That’s not even a debate. It’s Amazing how many excuses people make.

Atlantic Dawn

It should be on a sign at ports and airports, anyone not liking it should fook the right off.

Atlantic Dawn

wakka12 wrote: »

Big whoop over nothing
its like transgender toilets non issue
I have very rarely seen burkas or hijabs in dublin and when I do see them I don't give a fcuk

I'd go to war over trans specified toilets. If a tool can't go to one toilet or the other he/she/it should stay ta fook at home.

Mr. teddywinkles

Rjd2 wrote: »

People should be allowed to wear what they want no matter what there religion is.

Grease n oil it is so. And before ya ask what religion. It's a cult I'm setting up. Name not decided yet.neeed suggestions.

super_furry

Richard Hillman wrote: »

One of the London 7/7 bombers escaped wearing one of them.

The Black Widows of the Moscow Theatre Siege wore them

Every lad in the ‘Ra wore white y-fronts. A few lads from the INLA wore boxer-briefs.

Hitman3000

Cover yourself from the neck down no problem. However your face should be visible. We convey alot by facial expression it is important for interaction.

deco nate

If a person cannot wear a motorbike helmet in a place for security reasons.
Then no one else should be allowed to float that law either.
Plain and simple.

timthumbni

super_furry wrote: »

Richard Hillman wrote: »

One of the London 7/7 bombers escaped wearing one of them.

The Black Widows of the Moscow Theatre Siege wore them

Every lad in the ‘Ra wore white y-fronts. A few lads from the INLA wore boxer-briefs.

Jimmy sands wore brown pants apparently......

Mr. teddywinkles

timthumbni wrote: »

Women in Muslim society are very much second class citizens within their own type. That’s not even a debate. It’s Amazing how many excuses people make.

It so fascinating that people that ****e on about let people wear what they want because you know I'm a progressive person. Gob****es. It's an item representing repression. Knobs.

One eyed Jack

timthumbni wrote: »

Women in Muslim society are very much second class citizens within their own type. That’s not even a debate. It’s Amazing how many excuses people make.

Of course it’s debatable as you’re using Western standards to comment on standards in Muslim societies. You’re basically comparing apples and oranges. If you’re going to attempt to make that comparison then by the same standards, women in Western society are also just as much ‘second class citizens within their own type’.

RustyNut

deco nate wrote: »

If a person cannot wear a motorbike helmet in a place for security reasons.
Then no one else should be allowed to float that law either.
Plain and simple.

What law would that be?
Where is illegal to wear a helmet?

deco nate

RustyNut wrote: »

What law would that be?
Where is illegal to wear a helmet?

Be a dick all you want. Never said illegal.
Petrol stations, banks,
And most reception areas will have notes in the windows saying such.

Your sad post is bull****. Try harder next time.

Gob****e post

K.Flyer

RustyNut wrote: »

What law would that be?
Where is illegal to wear a helmet?

All public buildings and banks etc will have a sign telling motorcyclists to remove their helmet before entering the building.
Its for security reasons.
Why should anyone else be allowed cover their face beyond recognition entering the same buildings?

Atlantic Dawn

RustyNut wrote: »

What law would that be?
Where is illegal to wear a helmet?

Most fuel stations have it as a condition of sale, if someone arrives clad in the same gear where facial ID is impossible they should also be refused sale on security grounds. Personally I would not conduct business with any company allowing unknown identifiables to conduct sales.

RustyNut

But not illegal, no law?

Mr. teddywinkles

One eyed Jack wrote: »

Of course it’s debatable as you’re using Western standards to comment on standards in Muslim societies. You’re basically comparing apples and oranges. If you’re going to attempt to make that comparison then by the same standards, women in Western society are also just as much ‘second class citizens within their own type’.

How so

One eyed Jack

K.Flyer wrote: »

All public buildings and banks etc will have a sign telling motorcyclists to remove their helmet before entering the building.
Its for security reasons.
Why should anyone else be allowed cover their face beyond recognition entering the same buildings?

Next time you see a woman in a bank wearing a niqab you should say it to her :rolleyes:

deco nate

RustyNut wrote: »

What law would that be?
Where is illegal to wear a helmet?

I'd like you stop posting ****e, how about that. Not illegal, but it would be nice to stop with your crap.

Mr. teddywinkles

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Most fuel stations have it as a condition of sale, if someone arrives clad in the same gear where facial ID is impossible they should also be refused sale on security grounds. Personally I would not conduct business with any company allowing unknown identifiables to conduct sales.

As well as that who the fook interacts with the rest of humanity through a helmet.you want integration piss poor way about it

timthumbni

One eyed Jack wrote: »

timthumbni wrote: »

Women in Muslim society are very much second class citizens within their own type. That’s not even a debate. It’s Amazing how many excuses people make.

Of course it’s debatable as you’re using Western standards to comment on standards in Muslim societies. You’re basically comparing apples and oranges. If you’re going to attempt to make that comparison then by the same standards, women in Western society are also just as much ‘second class citizens within their own type’.

I admit that women in western society still face adversity in certain aspects. However in comparison to Islamic countries you are really taking the piss.

deco nate

RustyNut wrote: »

But not illegal, no law?

You are the one to start bs.
An I will say fcuk off with your posts. You keep on with this **** when it has been pointed out to you.

RustyNut

deco nate wrote: »

RustyNut wrote: »

What law would that be?
Where is illegal to wear a helmet?

I'd like you stop posting ****e, how about that. Not illegal, but it would be nice to stop with your crap.

I'm sure you'd like people to stop pointing out when you're wrong ok.

Hitman3000

RustyNut wrote:

But not illegal, no law?

Whatabout respecting local custom. As the saying goes when in Rome... Simple solution if you don't like the ideals or behaviours of a society probably best not to move there.

[Deleted User]

If you ban hijabs, then the next step is banning hoodies.

As a regular hoodie wearer, I say no.

We are (trying to become) a liberal nation. We need to get out of this habit of banning stuff we dont like. Don't like abortions? Don't have one. Don't like Burqas? Don't wear one. Don't like booze being sold after 10pm? Don't buy any.

deco nate

RustyNut wrote: »

I'm sure you'd like people to stop pointing out when you're wrong ok.

Point out to me were I said it was illegal? Keep up muppet, I said points of sales were they are not accepted.
Keep back tracking

Mod-Banned

Atlantic Dawn

Mr. teddywinkles wrote: »

As well as that who the fook interacts with the rest of humanity through a helmet.you want integration piss poor way about it

Exactly, I won't ring Joseph Duffy esquire when I'm arrested drinking a tray of cans outside Burj Khalifa of an evening.