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Waterford GAA thread - mod warning post #1 and #51

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New thread ladsðŸ˜ŠðŸ˜Š Any update on injuries for this weekends game?

Mod edit: Given how the last thread descended into chaos, we are going to leave that closed and start afresh

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Cake Man

Yeah was keeping an eye on the scores yesterday, both TF and SW teams put up good scores in their wins over Tipp and Wexford respectively. Something like 2-16 which is great scoring for 30-40min games I believe. So hopefully a few decent lads coming through.

Anyone know how any of the u15 and u16 teams did? I know neither went on to win it out anyway. Cork did a clean sweep in all of these, they cleaned up the last two or three years also so it’s a bit depressing to know how strong they’ll likely be in a few years at senior level. They’re absolutely dominating underage but to be fair with the pick they have, it’s not much of a surprise.

Mastermcgrath

Another great weekend in the Tony Forristal and Sonny Walsh competitions.

Cork beat Kilkenny in the A final. Waterford performed well, beating Tipp convincingly but losing out to Kilkenny so failing to make the finals.

In the Sonny Walsh Cork also were victorious beating Clare in the final. Again Waterford won one and lost one.

Overall we were very competitive in both grades which is comforting to see.

The Rebel’s are well and truly back at underage level looking very strong now down through the grades.

On another note it is sad to see Offaly no longer fielding a team at TF. They had only one team which competed at Sonny Walsh (B)

I just want to say a big well done to the organising committee for maintaining this wonderfully prestigious competition on a voluntary basis. It’s something we should be hugely proud of here in Waterford.

Dublin Dave 2014

Senior hurling QF
Abbeyside: 2.22
Tallow : 0.10

Great result for the village

Pogue eile

No opinion on Tommy himself has always been very positive, his input under the Declan Ryan period was very limited. He was manager of the Tipp minors this year. Have never played under him myself but know plenty who have and all agreed he was the best coach they have ever played under. One only needds to read his analysis articles every Monday to apreciate that not only is he a great cach but he is a very astute reader of the game.

mountgomery burns

Pogue eile wrote: »

cul beag;107885418

Tommy Dunne

Selector under Declan Ryan with Tipp where they went from all Ireland champions under sheedy to getting their best player to chase tommy Walsh around croker. Tipp regressed. Won nowt. Coach under ger Cunningham with Dublin where Dublin went from all Ireland contenders under Daly to becoming a very poor team. Won nowt.

I'm sorry but that is horse shi*e of the highest order, Tommy Dunne is a top top class coach and has won plenty. Ask anyone in Tipp if they would like him involved in our Senior set up and you will get a yes every time.

Not arguing the coach side of it as have heard the same, but I thought opinion was divided on him in Tipp based on the stint with Declan Ryan?

Pogue eile

cul beag;107885418

Tommy Dunne

Selector under Declan Ryan with Tipp where they went from all Ireland champions under sheedy to getting their best player to chase tommy Walsh around croker. Tipp regressed. Won nowt. Coach under ger Cunningham with Dublin where Dublin went from all Ireland contenders under Daly to becoming a very poor team. Won nowt.

I'm sorry but that is horse shi*e of the highest order, Tommy Dunne is a top top class coach and has won plenty. Ask anyone in Tipp if they would like him involved in our Senior set up and you will get a yes every time.

cul beag

Mastermcgrath wrote: »

Heard the complete opposite. He was in charge of Modeligo last year and ran a total **** show.

Heard the same also.

cul beag

914 wrote: »

Wouldn't be too excited by this developement. Disappointing to miss out on pat ryan and mattie kenny, would love to hear the reasons behind it.

If it is pauric fanning and sean power applied and was interested in the position, thats mind blowing that he wouldn't be selected.

Financial reasons behind the latter we’re led to believe and personal matters behind the first choice. As regards our native prospects only Fanning was nominated by a club from within the county, Sean Power wasn’t.

Cake Man

Anyone know (if this is to be the case) how the players feel about it? Can’t imagine they’d be too inspired by it tbh.

Best of luck to all Waterford underage sides this weekend, would cap a fairly miserable year if one team could go all the way or at least show a bit of promising talent in the pipeline.

914

Wouldn't be too excited by this developement. Disappointing to miss out on pat ryan and mattie kenny, would love to hear the reasons behind it.

If it is pauric fanning and sean power applied and was interested in the position, thats mind blowing that he wouldn't be selected.

KevIRL

Mastermcgrath wrote: »

So who is the new manager?

Pauric fanning by all accounts

Mastermcgrath

KevIRL wrote: »

New fanning management team as outlined last night to be announced today apparently

So who is the new manager?

KevIRL

New fanning management team as outlined last night to be announced today apparently

Mastermcgrath

JesusRef wrote: »

I have spoken to an ex player in Cork with the big medals in their pockets who regard Murray as a born manager and leader from their time in UCC, not the first time I heard it from people in UCC Hurling circles (I attended shortly after him)... he is meant to be serious

Heard the complete opposite. He was in charge of Modeligo last year and ran a total **** show.

Utopia Parkway

Pogue eile wrote: »

So to put it another way you agree that they are being over rated based on a small sample size and returned to the true levels this year?

No I don't agree with at all. Those are really good hurlers. They went 2 years unbeaten. 13 games or so. In the past that would be 4 years unbeaten given the extra games.

Graham Mulcahy is up for HOTY. You would probably be committed if someone said that a few months ago. Such is life.

JesusRef

I have spoken to an ex player in Cork with the big medals in their pockets who regard Murray as a born manager and leader from their time in UCC, not the first time I heard it from people in UCC Hurling circles (I attended shortly after him)... he is meant to be serious

Stopitwillya

cul beag wrote: »

Fanning Browne Murray Dunne. The new management team.

I hope this is not true.

Is padraic fanning the manager?
Years of negative hurling as a selector under Davy. Never won nowt as a selector or manager. Has managed club teams in Kilkenny and Cork and won nothing. I am not including managing Mount Sion years ago as they were so far ahead of everyone even Ballygunner at the time.

Tony Browne
Great player.
Terrible as an under 21 selector under Derek Lyons where a serious team lost due to poor management and extremely negative tactics versus Clare.
Did a good job with Lismore. Munster Intermediate champions
Poor with WIT fresher's last year judging by results.
James Murray
Don't know has he been a selector/manager with any team.
Tommy Dunne
Selector under Declan Ryan with Tipp where they went from all Ireland champions under sheedy to getting their best player to chase tommy Walsh around croker. Tipp regressed. Won nowt.
Coach under ger Cunningham with Dublin where Dublin went from all Ireland contenders under Daly to becoming a very poor team. Won nowt.

This is not a good management team.
But what can we expect when we have the likes of paddy Joe and Pat flynn in charge.

Sean Power should have got the job weeks ago.

mickmackmcgoo

cul beag wrote:

Yep. Murray is a strange one. Nearly as strange as Eoin Murphy!

None would be stranger than Fanning! County board have made some crazy decisions over the years, that would be the most regressive managerial appointment .

upthedeise16

914 wrote: »

Liamore stay up. Maurice scoring 1-09 tonight while Dan netted two goals.

Fourmile are also safe after a 5 point win over Ballyduff. Ballyduff and An Rinn face off in the relegation final.

cul beag

mountgomery burns wrote: »

Tommy Dunne and James Murray?

Yep. Murray is a strange one. Nearly as strange as Eoin Murphy!

mountgomery burns

Tommy Dunne and James Murray?

Mastermcgrath

KevIRL wrote: »

cul beag wrote: »

Fanning Browne Murray Dunne. The new management team.

Heard this earlier also.

Stop your worrying me now

KevIRL

cul beag wrote: »

Fanning Browne Murray Dunne. The new management team.

Heard this earlier also.

914

Liamore stay up. Maurice scoring 1-09 tonight while Dan netted two goals.

cul beag

Fanning Browne Murray Dunne. The new management team.

Mastermcgrath

Deiselurker wrote: »

Are the players who headed off on their travels this summer able to play for their clubs on their return this year if they have played championship in another country?

Yes

914

DLS2THECORE wrote: »

The search for a manager will have to go on it seems.....

Did I hear Thomas McCarthy on wlr say Mattie Kenny has rules himself out? Came in on the end of it so not sure was he saying after Pat Ryan rules himself out or of he said Mattie Kenny ruled himself out.

Pogue eile

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

To be fair they won the AI last year and he wasn't really a massive influence despite ending up HOTY. He might have been Galway's 3rd or even 4th best forward last year.

Actually been a much bigger influence this year and they lost the final. Problem is Conor Cooney lost form and confidence, Conor Whelan wasn't really being used like he should have, Cathal Mannion was great up until the final but had no influence on the final, Joseph Cooney was the opposite, quiet all year but actually had a good final. Same forwards that shot the lights out last year suddenly started hitting wides this year.

So to put it another way you agree that they are being over rated based on a small sample size and returned to the true levels this year?

Deiselurker

Are the players who headed off on their travels this summer able to play for their clubs on their return this year if they have played championship in another country?

Mastermcgrath

Best of luck to the Waterford lads in the Tony Forristal and Sonny Walsh competitions this weekend. Whatever happens with the seniors, this is where it all starts for many intercounty stars of the future. Let’s hope our lads compete well