Icyseanfitz wrote: » i think its really silly to preorder one of these before having any non biased reviews of performance in rasterization compared to pascal. To me its a massive red flag that nvidias entire conference avoided just that issue. Also watched the new jay2cents video on pricing and how its a good thing, in essence he is saying nvidia had just renamed the titan to 2080ti to avoid making it confusing and make the whole linup simpler from the start. Does he really think nvidia wont release a 2*** titan for €2000 and then a 2080ti^2 at €1200 if AMD/Intel do nothing over the next year or two. I am personally excited to see the real world benchmarks on these cards but the prices are nuts, And I would consider myself an enthusiast when it comes to spending on pc hardware, have a lovely 1080ti that broke my previous limit "how much I'm willing to spend on a single component", no way in hell I'm spending 1200 or up on a gpu though. The problem is these 2080ti's probably will sell out everywhere and at the crazy prices, which will then lead nvidia to price the next generation way up again and again.
BloodBath wrote: » This isn't just some proprietary crap to try and shut AMD out of the market. It's DX12 based.
Dcully wrote: » You make it sound like we are disappointed IF those performance figures are true. They are best case scenario marketing figures , ill wait for the real figures thanks.
Venom wrote: » It's kinda shocking to see Jay so far off the mark in that Nvidia will not have a Titan RTX for sale in the next 4-6 months going by past actions not to mention theres no way they're dropping the Titan brand and he really should know better. Hell, two Titan cards were released during Pascal's lifetime so I don't feel it's beyond the realms of possibility that a "refreshed" 2080 Ti card wont be on sale in a years time. Nvidia has consistently been bumping up the pricing of the 80 and 70 series cards the last few years and now we're at the stage where SLI only starts on the 2080 and upwards unlike with Pascal where it started at the 1070.
Icyseanfitz wrote: » its crazy, if it keeps going like this in a few gpu generations ill be using low to mid end hardware, equivalent to 1060 maybe 1070 as they will all be priced so high. I am hearing a lot of talk about intel entering the gpu market, is there any evidence of this? A massive company like intel would give nvidia a run for their money
EoinHef wrote: » Its almost like someone is trying to show off,wrong crowd i think though. Most of is just want real independent figures before we declare 20XXseries/ray tracing as the second coming of christ.
K.O.Kiki wrote: » Not until 2020https://twitter.com/intelnews/status/1006592543201480706https://twitter.com/IntelGraphics/status/1029792940648878080
gizmo wrote: » Christ, between this and all the chatter about ray-tracing it's like 2010 and Larrabee all over again. :pac:
Venom wrote: » If AMD can pull a Zen on their next-gen GPU's and offer even close to 2070 or 2080 levels of FPS performance, not raytracing mind you but just FPS alone, and for non-stupid money, they could easily make a similar comeback in the GPU market as they have in the CPU market. I have a feeling the Intel GPU's are going to be locked to Intel CPU platforms only and even if they're not and the GPU's can compete with the current offerings from Nvidia and AMD, I reckon the drivers will be a mess for the first couple of years.
K.O.Kiki wrote: » From what I understand about Larrabee, it wasn't a GPU so much as a mini-computer that could emulate GPU functions.
Genevieve Disgusting Self-improvement wrote: » people are cautious to praise but quick to damn. Man on thread about latest high end graphics cards says he bought one, condemned as a show off. Dont go on the pics of your rig thread....that will drive you mad, the show off one there, filthy decadent consumerist pigs......
tuxy wrote: » I've become so acustomed to playing at 144hz(1080p) it would be very difficult to go back to 30hz - 50hz that can be expected for ray traced games to support at launch. Are there any good native 720p 144hz montiors that would be a good match for the 2080ti? For anyone on here who has preordered , what monitor do you plan to use with the 2080,2080ti?
Icyseanfitz wrote: » Yeah I've been trying to get a steady 4k@60hz but think I'm going to scale back to high refresh 1440p, the cost is getting too crazy
Venom wrote: » 4k gaming @60 fps with all the bells and whistles is always going to hit the pocket hard. I'm holding off on a new monitor until next year all the HDR stuff settles down.
Cuddlesworth wrote: » When the 8800gt was released, Nvidia made a huge deal about Shader Model 4.0, how they were the first for this new Directx 10 API and how it was going to revitalise the industry. By the time game engines used Shader model 4.0, most 8800's were sitting in dumps. This stands out in my head because I knew people at the time who chose the Nvidia card simply because of that. When DX10, DX11 and DX12 were released it was such a big deal to get those cards out to work with the new API. Well(and this happend for dx10 and dx11 as well), lets see that big list of properly implemented DX12 games 3 years on? The 40-50% performance improvements for the same graphics? Where are the Multiadapter supported games for multi-gpu? Where are the riches that DX12 would bring to the market. What I see are benchmarks of a handful of AAA titles, in which you have to turn on DX12, that sometimes have better results and sometimes have worse. Most games still claim the DX12 mode is in beta. I get it, ray tracing is the "next" big thing and nvida have timed hardware support in tandem with the API's support. Outside of a few paid off publishers doing game reworks to bodge it in, actual proper ray tracing in games will be a generation away. In the meantime, Nvidia will push out a handful of titles done with Crapworks code to make Ray tracing on AMD look bad and market the **** out of it. Meanwhile, its not available on 90% of the actual discrete graphics market, which right now is pretty much the 580 and the 1060 or older cards, or this generation since Nvidia have linked it to the high end. So for the majority of PC gamers, ray tracing means nothing. In the meantime, for those with money to burn or don't care about what happens when dirty marketing tricks remove the last competitor in the market....
Icyseanfitz wrote: » they have just upped the gpu stack in terms of pricing imo, 2080ti - titan, 2080 - 1080ti, 2070 - 1080. Leaves a spot for a new price point on a new titan. AMD or intel cant do something quick enough
Venom wrote: » 100% guaranteed there will be a Titan RTX out in the next 6 months and a Ti refresh in a year.
Samuel T. Cogley wrote: » Just for the craic I'm gonna say nope. We won't see a Titan card as nVidia seeks to segment the professional and consumer markets, I also don't see them getting the yields of such a large chip to put something between the professional and consumer space. No refresh of the 2080ti either for similar reasons. However what we will see is a new generation of cards (30XX) family faster than any previous generation IMHO as they move to 7nm before intel and AMD hit the consumer space.
