Leroy42 wrote: » But you don't think there are valid reasons to protest the popes visit?
Leroy42 wrote: » So you think it perfectly acceptable the way continues to behave in terms of the abuse of children and the cover ups? You think it perfectly acceptable that the CC is allowed to continue to operate against all anti-sexism laws, simply because they always have?
whisky_galore wrote: » People are perfectly entitled to protest, I don't see why not. It's a free country.
Hotblack Desiato wrote: » If the pope and the anti-pope are in the same room, will they annihilate in a burst of energy?
Pints? wrote: » Should we protest the Popes visit? - No Should we protest state funds being used to pay for everything around this visit? - Yes The richest organisation in the world (the Vatican) should pay their own way.
pleas advice wrote: » I think we should welcome the Pope because he's great, in fact I think we should invite BOTH Popes...,
Hotblack Desiato wrote: » In retrospect it was well in decline by 1979. The RCC were well aware that vocations were in steep decline and ever increasing numbers of "good catholic married couples" never mind young singles regarded catholic teaching on contraception, sex outside of marriage, etc. as completely ridiculous. Some in the RCC thought 1979 would prompt a revival. Seems to have prompted a few to throw out their diaphragm and pop out a John-Paul in 1990 all right
Sycamore Tree wrote: » This pope visit actually feels like the death knell for the Roman church in Ireland.
Sycamore Tree wrote: » Mattie McGrath is going to Rome today to see the pope
Sycamore Tree wrote: » This pope visit actually feels like the death knell for the Roman church in Ireland. The narrative is much more about the historic and ongoing wrongdoing by the church as opposed to welcoming God's representative on Earth. I wish he would come more often...lest we forget.
work wrote: » Sycamore Tree wrote: » Catherine Corless on Newstalk now saying she wont go to see the pope in support of the 800 babies in the septic tank in Tuam. She said the Archbishop of Tuam never and still doesn't cooperate on the mother and baby homes investigation and vigils so why would she meet the pope. Good to have some attention not on his great visit as a lot of media portray it. If any other group did what the CC did they would be kicked up the arse not get Leo's red carpet
Sycamore Tree wrote: » Catherine Corless on Newstalk now saying she wont go to see the pope in support of the 800 babies in the septic tank in Tuam. She said the Archbishop of Tuam never and still doesn't cooperate on the mother and baby homes investigation and vigils so why would she meet the pope.
Sycamore Tree wrote: » Mattie McGrath is going to Rome today to see the pope but came on to Newstalk to give out about McAleese 'pontificating' to the people about Roman church wrongs.McAleese is simply telling home truths but some people do not want to listen. Why?
work wrote: » I will be going to the garden of remembrance as a peaceful protest against the papal visit. Who is going? Will there be issues getting there with the policing? I am not sure what other protests there are. The "turn our back" protest seems better as it is a general protest and not narrowed to abuse issues. Ufortunately it is also very late to organise this.
work wrote: » We need to separate state and religeon so there is clarity and a level field in education. By going to most state schools you get your child indoctrinated in a fake deity and lots of time wasted on this, you may believe in some higher being or beings but with zero evidence this is not something you should teach as reality. Be under no illusion on how effective this indoctrination is. By going to an educate together you avoid this religeos cr@p but there are genuinely other concerns, and before anyone says this is not fact I know that, including the following possibilities. Do educate together schools contain a disproportionate number of families that, do not speak English or are poorly integrated into Irish society? Sorry for the anecdote but the mother of an Irish (mum) African (dad) child told me she is sending her kid to an educate together school as the father believes religious state schools are racist. This weird logic made me wary of educate together schools. I have also met some fairly alternative parents sending their kids to educate together schools but also completely normal people. Any way sorry for the ramble. The SOLUTION is separate state and religeon so there are no religious schools that way we get a mix of all types of kids and families in schools.
Irish Kings wrote: » Instead of a simple don't know, I got name calling, panic and diversion. Interesting responses that only raise my interest. Sine when did you designate yourself as the representative and manger of "Everyone" ? The good old days for that type of shenanigans are over. I'll ask whatever questions I like, where I like, when I like, and I won't be forced away from doing so.
Leroy42 wrote: » _Kaiser_ wrote: » In my case I wanted him to go where he'd have the best chance to do well.. if the teacher was spending lots of time trying to teach other kids basic English then, given that there's only so many hours in the school day, how can others NOT suffer. So you agree that teachers having to spend time teaching stuff to kids that is not necessary for most of the class effects the education of the children? That is exactly the point the others weremaking about wasting time on religion!
_Kaiser_ wrote: » In my case I wanted him to go where he'd have the best chance to do well.. if the teacher was spending lots of time trying to teach other kids basic English then, given that there's only so many hours in the school day, how can others NOT suffer.
_Kaiser_ wrote: » We genuinely hadn't even thought of that to be honest, but it's a valid point. If an already overfilled infants classroom has a teacher spending an inordinate amount of time trying to communicate with a significant portion of that class, then everyone else's education will suffer.. which may go to your point above.
Irish Kings wrote: » I'm also free to ask whatever questions I like here, whether you like it or not.
tylercheribini wrote: » For the unitiated a fantastic documentary depicting a different Ireland, which was banned for decades due to its anti-church stance, "Tge Rocky Road To Dublin"https://youtu.be/7kaAQHj9Efk
Fighting Tao wrote: » I don’t see anyone panicked here. What I see is you being aggressive with almost everyone in the thread for no reason. If you aren’t happy with the answers you are getting from random strangers here then look for answers elsewhere. Everyone has limited knowledge and it is being shared with you. Research yourself if not satisfied.
Irish Kings wrote: » Attempt as many cover ups and diversions and name calling as you like, but the victims and their families are not going to let this go. Interesting the panic a few very basic questions has caused.
