Irish Kings wrote: » who in "the government", what was their name and position ?
Kings wrote: » who in "the government", what was their name and position ?
ohnonotgmail wrote: » what do you expect to do with this information if you get it?
Irish Kings wrote: » so you don't think it's important to name and shame who, you think 'de gubberment' is a satisfactory answer to the church and states victims ?
ohnonotgmail wrote: » Considering it was 50 years ago they are most likely dead.
Irish Kings wrote: » why do the victims not have a right to know who it was ?
Fighting Tao wrote: » I personally don’t care who banned any film.
batgoat wrote: » You are perfectly free to go to the National Archives to find the relevant records.
batgoat wrote: » No specific names are named but there's no disputing that it was effectively banned.. The maker points out in this piece that airing in cinemas didn't go through because of local clergy as well.https://www.theguardian.com/film/2004/oct/11/1 I'm not sure why you're being so aggressive but the question is a bit like asking who banned Ulysses, it wasn't banned but for the most part, it was impossible to obtain in but I'd have to go to the national archives to pinpoint the public servant who authorised the custom's loophole to be enforced.
Kings wrote: » why do the victims not have a right to know who it was ?
I entered what was the first Irish feature-length film of any significance for the Cork film festival in 1967. How could they reject it? By disqualifying it on the grounds that it had had showings in Dublin - one screening for about 18 people. But, to the amazement of the Irish authorities, the film was selected to represent Ireland at the Cannes festival of 1968. The idea that an Irish feature film that was good enough for Cannes could not be screened at Ireland's only film festival was just too much. So Cork gave us a screening. It was at lunchtime, on the day they had invited all the media out of town to a free oyster-and-Guinness lunch in Kenmore, 70 miles away. So we hired a hall the next day, causing more scandal. With the financial potential a scandal offers, one Dublin cinema took the film and ran it for seven weeks to gleeful audiences.
Irish Kings wrote: » I'm also free to ask whatever questions I like here, whether you like it or not.
Irish Kings wrote: » you may not care, but there are plenty victims of church abuse and their families that do care who in the state collaborated with them.
tylercheribini wrote: » Watch the film instead.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » So it was never actually banned.
Fighting Tao wrote: » It’s already been said. Whoever banned it is most likely dead. Banning weren’t done by 21 year old interns. Most likely done by a person or group of people in their 50’s+ who had rank and seniority. That would make them 100+ now. Maybe you could track down people who got the presidents cheque in the last few years and cross reference them with where they worked and what position they held.
batgoat wrote: » Yep, it was effectively banned from national broadcaster to be fair and a handful of art film festivals aired it basically. The latter was because clergy objected to it, former was because RTE privately agreed not to air.
tylercheribini wrote: » Feeding trolls is my pastime..i hope you find peace in your life brother.
Irish Kings wrote: » so victims of abuse and their families have no right to know who did this because they are dead. Hmmm this panic and deflection here is getting even more interesting.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » you are flailing your arms at a ghost that does not exist.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » but not actually banned. RTE decided not to show it. That is not banned. Private enterprises decided not to show it. that is not banned either. I cant imagine documentaries were massive money spinners for cinemas anyway.
Kings wrote: » Attempt as many cover ups and diversions and name calling as you like, but the victims and their families are not going to let this go. Interesting the panic a few very basic questions has caused.
Irish Kings wrote: » Attempt as many cover ups and diversions and name calling as you like, but the victims and their families are not going to let this go. Interesting the panic a few very basic questions has caused.
Fighting Tao wrote: » I don’t see anyone panicked here. What I see is you being aggressive with almost everyone in the thread for no reason. If you aren’t happy with the answers you are getting from random strangers here then look for answers elsewhere. Everyone has limited knowledge and it is being shared with you. Research yourself if not satisfied.
tylercheribini wrote: » For the unitiated a fantastic documentary depicting a different Ireland, which was banned for decades due to its anti-church stance, "Tge Rocky Road To Dublin"https://youtu.be/7kaAQHj9Efk
_Kaiser_ wrote: » We genuinely hadn't even thought of that to be honest, but it's a valid point. If an already overfilled infants classroom has a teacher spending an inordinate amount of time trying to communicate with a significant portion of that class, then everyone else's education will suffer.. which may go to your point above.
Irish Kings wrote: » Instead of a simple don't know, I got name calling, panic and diversion. Interesting responses that only raise my interest. Sine when did you designate yourself as the representative and manger of "Everyone" ? The good old days for that type of shenanigans are over. I'll ask whatever questions I like, where I like, when I like, and I won't be forced away from doing so.
