Roseanne fired but Sarah Jeong hired?

keffiyeh wrote: »

Why not? Invaders who have thrived due to land theft and slavery shouldn't be vilified? Why? Got more to qualify that than a two letter word? No? Shocking.

Trump is not a disease, he is a symptom of a disease.

Yeah a diseased democratic party that is embracing this identity polictics racist bull****!
If they get their act together, they can win back the white house, they won't though, they will double down on this madness.

Wibbs

keffiyeh wrote: »

Why not? Invaders who have thrived due to land theft and slavery shouldn't be vilified? Why?

So in your twisted view just because someone is white, even if they're a tramp on the street they should be vilified because of the out of their hands lottery of their birth and their lack of melanin?

Oh the blood of their ancestors is upon them eh? That moronic medieval nonsense? Pity that the vast majority whose ancestors arrived on that continent were dirt poor peasants, many of whom became indentured servants, or meat machines for big industry. But, sure... yeah, Whitey was all slave owners and robber barons. Some of the biggest slavers in the modern era were(and are) of Arab origin. The Arab slave trade went on for longer and over a wider area than the European slave trade did. Who do you think the Europeans were buying slaves from? Never mind local African slavers. Or do they all get a free pass, because of their tan?

I hate to break it to you - though I doubt I'll make even a dent in your repugnant and retarded worldview - but happily vilifying one group because of the colour of their skin or ancestry and elevating another for the same reasons is the very definition of racism. And what does that make you? Join the dots if you can.

Wibbs wrote: »

So in your twisted view just because someone is white, even if they're a tramp on the street they should be vilified because of the out of their hands lottery of their birth and their lack of melanin?

Oh the blood of their ancestors is upon them eh? That moronic medieval nonsense? Pity that the vast majority whose ancestors arrived on that continent were dirt poor peasants, many of whom became indentured servants, or meat machines for big industry. But, sure... yeah, Whitey was all slave owners and robber barons. Some of the biggest slavers in the modern era were(and are) of Arab origin. The Arab slave trade went on for longer and over a wider area than the European slave trade did. Who do you think the Europeans were buying slaves from? Never mind local African slavers. Or do they all get a free pass, because of their tan?

I hate to break it to you - though I doubt I'll make even a dent in your repugnant and retarded worldview - but happily vilifying one group because of the colour of their skin or ancestry and elevating another for the same reasons is the very definition of racism. And what does that make you? Join the dots if you can.

Brilliant Wibbs!

jmayo

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

I was told on FB the other day that I'd "put out some wrong opinions". When I asked the person - who I'd have considered a friend - what made an opinion "wrong" I got "some were anti women" (I distrust Vicky Phelan intensely); "disagreeing that the UK Government are trying to kill poor people" (of course they're not!) and "Jeremy Corybn is God" (no, he's a Trotskyite chancer who would bankrupt the UK in a week - plus I've a Jewish nan, he's an anti-semitic bollix).

Point is - there seems to be a set of "criteria" that the left have allowed for discussion - go beyond their parameters and you are called racist and worse.

Whilst I totally agree with your views on Corbyn, I take major issue with your appraisal of Vicky Phelan.
Lets just say I am fairly familiar with her case and some of the other high profile ones, and it is understandable how she wants answers and even heads of those who are either responsible for the system that gave misdiagnosis or for the behaviour afterwards.

keffiyeh wrote: »

Whites are the invaders on that continent, long overdue that they're vilified, no? Love your fairly accurate prediction by the way.

The blatant extremist views being touted here, with mods just swanning around it and doing nothing, is very telling.

And where the fook do your views fall ?

This is the exact thing I mentioned in another thread discussing white pride mullarkey.

White pride has huge negative historic connotations, but as I pointed out some people, deluded white people included, believe that white people today should be ashamed and should apologise for past behaviour by previous generations and even worse for white people who bear no direct link to them at all.

For instance it is lunacy like yours that would vilify an Irish or other white 1980s immigrant to the USA and hold them responsible for what some white Americans did in the 17th, 18th and 19th centuries ?

keffiyeh wrote: »

Why not? Invaders who have thrived due to land theft and slavery shouldn't be vilified? Why? Got more to qualify that than a two letter word? No? Shocking.

Trump is not a disease, he is a symptom of a disease.

Vilify the people from the past who slaughtered the Indians, who bought and sold slaves, who got rich through that behaviour.
Fair enough point out to people whose families became rich through such behaviour, but it is cr** like yours that would vilify anyone white just for being white.

TomSweeney wrote: »

So an innocent kid deserves all the hate and abuse just because of the colour of his skin ? - unlucky to be born white in the USA today ?

I see by your username that you support terrorism and anti semitic hatred, so no surprise really.

Nice way to murder any opinion you may have, again, fighting an invasion is not terrorism, nor is being pro-Palestinian anti-Semitic. I know of 30+ jewish groups that exist to oppose Israel's invasion. Thanks for displaying your ignorance up front though, it makes you much easier to ignore

Rory28

keffiyeh wrote: »

Nice way to murder any opinion you may have, again, fighting an invasion is not terrorism, nor is being pro-Palestinian anti-Semitic. I know of 30+ jewish groups that exist to oppose Israel's invasion. Thanks for displaying your ignorance up front though, it makes you much easier to ignore

What invasion are you talking about? When Columbus landed?

TomSweeney wrote: »

Yeah a diseased democratic party that is embracing this identity polictics racist bull****!
If they get their act together, they can win back the white house, they won't though, they will double down on this madness.

Erm no, a symptom of institutionaliZed racism. He ran on the idea he'd put up a wall and racist institutions (even the police) have been very emboldened by his presidency. But thanks for playing. Shouldn't show your card so early.

keffiyeh wrote: »

Nice way to murder any opinion you may have, again, fighting an invasion is not terrorism, nor is being pro-Palestinian anti-Semitic. I know of 30+ jewish groups that exist to oppose Israel's invasion. Thanks for displaying your ignorance up front though, it makes you much easier to ignore

And those jewish groups are free to operate in the democracy of Israel, what about Palestinians that don't actually agree with hamas ? you think they can go public about it ??? can they ****!!! - They would be murdered.

Rory28 wrote: »

What invasion are you talking about? When Columbus landed?

The Israeli invasion of Palestine. That other poster referred to my username thinking it would discredit me, a keffiyeh is a scarf/head covering commonly associated with resistance to the invasion, hell you can frequently buy them in O'Connell street when Irish lads are out protesting

Just to clear it up

But yes I'd also consider Columbus a piece of **** too.

keffiyeh wrote:

Why not? Invaders who have thrived due to land theft and slavery shouldn't be vilified? Why? Got more to qualify that than a two letter word? No? Shocking.

I don't think people should be judged on the sins of their ancestors and especially because of the colour of their skin. That makes me bad?

keffiyeh wrote:

But yes I'd also consider Columbus a piece of **** too.

I'd consider pol pot a bit of a **** but don't judge all Cambodians on his actions. The Vikings were right pieces of work. I think we should hate all of Scandinavia.

Deleted User wrote: »

I'd consider pol pot a bit of a **** but don't judge all Cambodians on his actions. The Vikings were right pieces of work. I think we should hate all of Scandinavia.

Pol Pot is still around and pulling his old tricks? The vikings? Is Christchurch some viking stronghold I don't know about? These things are over. The American issue is not. White Americans still reap from the land that was invaded for them to this day. Not that white people are impervious to poverty or other unfortunate situations of course.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/300528/us-millionaires-race-ethnicity/

TomSweeney wrote: »

And those jewish groups are free to operate in the democracy of Israel

Ah yes, the democracy that murders medical staff in their uniforms and imprisons poets. Very democratic.

And those groups are in no way 'free' to do anything, the past two months in particular have seen lots of people stopped and turned away at the border. Hell, people on freedom boats have been illegally boarded and arrested recently. Nothing free about you if you criticize the Israeli invasion.

TomSweeney wrote: »

you think they can go public about it ??? can they ****!!! - They would be murdered.

Do you know what baseless conjecture means?

keffiyeh wrote: »

Ah yes, the democracy that murders medical staff in their uniforms and imprisons poets. Very democratic.

And those groups are in no way 'free' to do anything, the past two months in particular have seen lots of people stopped and turned away at the border. Hell, people on freedom boats have been illegally boarded and arrested recently. Nothing free about you if you criticize the Israeli invasion.

Do you know what baseless conjecture means?

Stop lying.

keffiyeh wrote: »

Pol Pot is still around and pulling his old tricks? The vikings? Is Christchurch some viking stronghold I don't know about? These things are over. The American issue is not. White Americans still reap from the land that was invaded for them to this day. Not that white people are impervious to poverty or other unfortunate situations of course.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/300528/us-millionaires-race-ethnicity/

Absolute bull****.

So white americans should apologise and stop being successful. I assume you are in favour of reparations?

TomSweeney wrote: »

Stop lying.

UMMMMM....

Google Dareen Tatour.

Google Razan Najar.

Google is your friend.

Deleted User wrote: »

Absolute bull****.

So white americans should apologise and stop being successful. I assume you are in favour of reparations?

'Successful'. Elon Musk is successful too... having said that he comes from a family that got rich ripping out and stealing emeralds and ore out of the African earth... do you see the issue here? Their success has been propped up by what came before, and those that suffered then have descendants that are still suffering from it.

Absolutely in favour of reparations, of course I am. Depending on what they are of course. I don't think some cash for every person from that demo would do much good, but universities and other infrastructure built in places affected by the kidnap of their locals, like in Sierra Leone for example? Sure. Of course. I would give anyone who wasn't some serious side-eye.

Wibbs wrote: »

Some of the biggest slavers in the modern era were(and are) of Arab origin. The Arab slave trade went on for longer and over a wider area than the European slave trade did. Who do you think the Europeans were buying slaves from? Never mind local African slavers. Or do they all get a free pass, because of their tan?

I love asking people "Do you think white people just sailed down the coast of Africa hopped off and rounded up the slaves?" because generally it's either a strong "Yes!" or a confused look.

DEFTLEFTHAND

keffiyeh wrote: »

'Successful'. Elon Musk is successful too... having said that he comes from a family that got rich ripping out and stealing emeralds and ore out of the African earth... do you see the issue here? Their success has been propped up by what came before, and those that suffered then have descendants that are still suffering from it.

Absolutely in favour of reparations, of course I am. Depending on what they are of course. I don't think some cash for every person from that demo would do much good, but universities and other infrastructure built in places affected by the kidnap of their locals, like in Sierra Leone for example? Sure. Of course. I would give anyone who wasn't some serious side-eye.

Not every successful high achieving person inherited their wealth.

Green is the colour that matters in US business

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Not every successful high achieving person inherited their wealth.

Why say really obvious things and think they prove me wrong?

Having said that, this thread has gone way off course.

Roseanne is an asshole, Jeong is also an asshole, and the thread was created in bad faith to argue Roseanne should be let off the hook, and boards.ie is populated by Irish people pretending to care about this issue because they're just as racist as her. The End.

Rory28

keffiyeh wrote: »

Why say really obvious things and think they prove me wrong?

Having said that, this thread has gone way off course.

Roseanne is an asshole, Jeong is also an asshole, and the thread was created in bad faith to argue Roseanne should be let off the hook, and boards.ie is populated by Irish people pretending to care about this issue because they're just as racist as her. The End.

Good christ. Whats it like up there on your high horse?

givyjoe

keffiyeh wrote: »

Why say really obvious things and think they prove me wrong?

Having said that, this thread has gone way off course.

Roseanne is an asshole, Jeong is also an asshole, and the thread was created in bad faith to argue Roseanne should be let off the hook, and boards.ie is populated by Irish people pretending to care about this issue because they're just as racist as her. The End.

It clearly wasn't. It was created because of a massive double standard. A racist is a racist, regardless of whether they're white or asian.

givyjoe wrote:

It clearly wasn't. It was created because of a massive double standard. A racist is a racist, regardless of whether they're white or asian.

No.... it's about time white people got taken down a peg.... something something....sins of their fathers.

Alrigghtythen

keffiyeh wrote: »

Why say really obvious things and think they prove me wrong?

Having said that, this thread has gone way off course.

Roseanne is an asshole, Jeong is also an asshole, and the thread was created in bad faith to argue Roseanne should be let off the hook, and boards.ie is populated by Irish people pretending to care about this issue because they're just as racist as her. The End.

As racist as Jeong?

Taytoland

Has this woman not been fired yet? Unbelievable hypocrisy.