makeorbrake wrote: » @blanch152 : I simply don't agree. Have you any experience of your judicial system and the legal professions in Ireland. What of AGS? We'll take that as a starting point.
Matt Barrett wrote: » I agree so. I thought you were saying using the posters in such a manner was cynical. They've no chance of winning in a Presidential race and I don't think they've got any high profile personality beside Mary Lou. They'd be wise to keep their money. As regards the rest, political party guilty of self promotion? I'm aghast. Not like everyone was at it or anything. Leo is only short of having a press conference on why puppies shouldn't be given as Christmas presents and his partner in politics Micheal is desperate to come across as relevant.
blackwhite wrote: » The appearance is that they're not so much interested in winning the Presidential election - just in taking advantage of an opportunity to promote the party at a time when the other parties aren't taking part. In the 8th Referendum campaign they were the only large party to have their party leader plastered across their campaign posters - which gave more than a slight suggestion that promoting the party for a future GE was their actual focus. It's not much of a leap to think that the same might be going on this time around (and plenty of commentators suggested as much at the time SF announced they'd contest the election). The relative silence since about who the actual candidate will be doesn't do anything to dispel the theory
Matt Barrett wrote: » Cynical? How so?
blackwhite wrote: » They’ll do it like the Referendum posters. Lots space for Mary Lou and the SF logo, not as much for the issue on hand. Let’s them re-use again, but get posters out there when other parties don’t. Cynical tactic, but quite smart all the same
gandalf wrote: » Yes but they also see an imminent general election. I mean we really are only 30 days away from one at any time if Leo and Micky have a falling out. If SF spend a rake on the Presidential Election then they may compromise the funds for their GE campaign.
Water John wrote: » SF see a political space, with FF and FG not actively campaigning and postering. We''ll have Mary Lou's mug up on every lamppost.
VinLieger wrote: » Doh got confused, i cant remember but there was someone else along with Liadh that was being touted for SF as a front runner
L1011 wrote: » SF won't put forward O'Cuiv even if he swapped parties. 8th ref has ensured that. He'd have to leave FF to run anyway though
VinLieger wrote: » There was a bit of a media frenzy about her when SF announced they were putting forward a candidate. Most are guessing its between her and O Cuiv
Beechwoodspark wrote: » He’s been pretty average/poor and loads of ppl can’t stand him. But thankfully he’s being forced to campaign against his will and the people can hold him to account.
Water John wrote: » As a Munster resident, haven't never heard a whisper on anything from Liadh. Saw her once, in the local shop. Talk about riding a well known surname.
blackwhite wrote: » I prefer to judge people on their own actions (like for example, co-sponsoring legislation that flies in the face of what Iona are trying to promote) - and not on the actions of their brothers or sisters, or nieces or nephews.
It's a worrying trend how certain posters on here, and elements of Irish political discourse in general, seems to see character assassination by proxy as a legitimate way of trying to silence anyone who doesn't 100% agree with them.
I'd expect any fair-minded person to judge Freeman (and all of the other candidates) on her own actions - not on the actions of other people.
I can only the imagine the hysteria of you and some others on here if a post such as this was made with crass generalisations about any other religious grouping (or ethnic grouping).
Loafing Oaf wrote: » Potential SF candidate Liadh Ni Riada apparently has 'issues' with the MMR vaccine...
gandalf wrote: » SF haven't named a candidate yet. I think you're referring to Gemmo O'Doherty who isn't affiliated AFAIK (well maybe to the Iona Institute via family connections!).
blanch152 wrote: » Don't forget the SF anti-vaxxer, you could always give her a vote.
Loafing Oaf wrote: » If we want to elect a tinfoil hat president, let's go full retard and enlist Jim Corr...
makeorbrake wrote: » You want a puppet for president as you have this notion that this is what they do in the role? If that's all the job is going to be, in no way should the country suffer the expense of an election. You might as well have a competition on the back of a corn flakes box...or one of these reality TV deals..
makeorbrake wrote: » Now this isn't lazy - it's just nasty misinformation. Showing your true colours. There is no truth to the 'anti-vax assertion. It's called not simply accepting the HSE - but challenging them...and their record is far from a good one.
gandalf wrote: » At this stage I am looking at the so called prospective candidates for President and none of them are fit for purpose. We have Ganley who is tainted in the extreme, Duffy who is a self promotion whore, Sharkey who is "out there" to say the least and O'Doherty who on many levels is not fit to be president. I don't particularly like Michael D, I didn't vote for him last time but I concede that he has executed his tenure as President well and has represented us on the international stage with exemplary grace. If that crowd above are the ones we have to run against him then the contest shouldn't be run and the cost should be saved. All I see are with those four prospects is ego and madness!
blackwhite wrote: » Her twitter is a stream of conspiracy theory nonsense. It’s been posted reappeared on this, and on the GOD thread in AH - but her disciples just ignore it each time. The McCann stuff and the anti-vaxx rubbish being prime examples of her wandering off down the crazy path - and that’s before you get to her trying to equate trans-people with paedophiles
makeorbrake wrote: » Well, what's the worst that can happen? ....which is that it is another 'lovely girls' competition. It could set the stage as a statement by the people of Ireland that they won't put up with the cronyism, corruption, lack of accountability and transparency that we've currently got. These things have to start somewhere. Furthermore, that conversation is being stymied by a DOB/RTE media. So lets start here.
