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So...Madonna?

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Filmer Paradise

So what?

Lorelli!

Filmer Paradise wrote: »

So what?

Madonna?

DEFTLEFTHAND

I always thought she was plain looking.

Even when she was young.

Can you imagine her without the cake face.

Space Dog

Filmer Paradise wrote: »

So what?

So now what, so now what

AllForIt

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

I always thought she was plain looking.

Even when she was young.

Can you imagine her without the cake face.

Yes, a plain Jane.

foxy farmer

Happy birthday on reaching the big six oh..

jacksie66

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DEFTLEFTHAND

AllForIt wrote: »

Yes, a plain Jane.

She wasn't a natuarlly good looking, loads of cake etc.

Having a good bod is different.

Anybody can do that.

One eyed Jack

Lorelli! wrote: »

So...Madonna?

Was never her biggest fan, but you’ve already posted my favourite song

No denying her influence on pop music though, thought she was a lot older than 60

super_furry

Cracking tune, some amount of fuss over the video at the time too.

check_six

Always thought "Madonna" was her stage name. Only discovered that it's her given name recently, despite living through the peak Madonna phase of the late 80s early 90s. See also Prince for the same. Who knew?

She's the last of that trio of 1958 mid-west America born superstars still kicking too (herself, Prince, and Michael Jackson).

andekwarhola

I didn't think I could love her any more than I do until I read the popbitch compendium of tales about her yesterday.

Highlights:

C writes:
"Some years ago I had a summer job working admissions at Longleat Safari Park. One day, this massive 4x4 pulls up and asks for two adult tickets. It's Madonna and Guy Ritchie.

"As starstruck me takes their money, the car slowly rolls past and I see two kids emerge from under a blanket on the back seat. I can only assume they didn't want the quite generously discounted family ticket."

She (Madonna) hated his (Guy Richie) friends (her nickname for Vinnie Jones and his wife was "Oaf and Oafette").

Madonna's method for staving off Athlete's Foot? Pissing on her own feet.

When Ricky Martin recorded a duet with Madonna, she shouted at him and made him cry.

andekwarhola

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

I always thought she was plain looking.

Any man that was aged between 12 and 15 in 1984 that didn't crack one off to the Like a Virgin album cover is a eunuch or a liar.

Effects

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Anybody can do that.

No they can't.

Avatar MIA

andekwarhola wrote: »

Any man that was aged between 12 and 15 in 1984 that didn't crack one off to the Like a Virgin album cover is a eunuch or a liar.

I thought of her as more nasty than sexy, but did love her early music at the time, but quickly got tired of her and her self appointed awesomeness.

Outlaw Pete

I've always felt that Borderline was a very underappreciated song. Released in 1984 it came at a time when women were seen as mere sexual playthings to many men, which is addressed in the second line of the song by Madonna:

I don't want to be your prisoner, so baby, won't you set me free

One can't help but feel empathy for this girl, and by extension, all other young sexy women of the time who too felt they also were 'prisoners' of men. She extrapolates:

Feels like I'm going to lose my mind, you just keep on pushing my love over the borderline

Now I wasn't old enough at the time to be in a sexual relationship, but I have reflected on my parent's relationship and wondered, did my Dad push my Mother's love over the 'borderline'? And you know, I think he may very well have done. Things turn sinister:

When you hold me in your arms, you love me 'til I just can't see, but then you let me down, when I look around, baby, you just can't be found

Clearly Madonna is speaking about forced sadomasochism here. Love her till she just can't see? He's blindfolded her. Then he 'lets her down'? Obviously he has suspended her in the air by means of a rope, or possibly a chain. When she looks around he's now not there? Clearly this man is a lunatic who is mentally torturing her.

You cause me so much pain, I think I'm going insane. Stop driving me away, I just want to stay

And the saddest part of all, she is now showing signs of stockholm syndrome.

Franz Von Peppercorn

She was ok, but no Cindi lauper

Capt'n Midnight

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

She was ok, but is no Cindi lauper

Ah Cindi the Queen of Kitsch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdQY7BusJNU

This is still one of my all time favourites.

andekwarhola

Hadn't watched Cyndi Lauper for years.

She's like the token annoying weirdo they put into American teen movies (before she gets a makeover and snogs the football player) isn't she?

Badly Drunk Boy

jacksie66 wrote: »

https://youtu.be/0XoyDqFy5pU

I prefer this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQSoR1LVILE

Capt'n Midnight

How did that upbeat Clive James quote go ?
"She was a dancer who looked even better than she danced, and sang better than she looked and everyone knew someone who could sing better"

The nearest I could cite
"At the start of the century," Clive James is saying, "there was Madame Curie, who was a terrific scientist, and not at all interested in fame. And today we have Madonna, who's only an average singer and dancer. And she's obsessed by fame. Consumed by it." He gives a "go figure" shrug.
- Clive James

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Outlaw Pete wrote: »

I've always felt that Borderline was a very underappreciated song.

By far her best and most underappreciated song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSaC-YbSDpo

Capt'n Midnight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=notKtAgfwDA

Franz Von Peppercorn

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

The nearest I could cite
"At the start of the century," Clive James is saying, "there was Madame Curie, who was a terrific scientist, and not at all interested in fame. And today we have Madonna, who's only an average singer and dancer. And she's obsessed by fame. Consumed by it." He gives a "go figure" shrug.
- Clive James

That’s right. I was only half joking about Lauper. Both had well regarded singles in the 80’s but only one became Queen of Pop. And not by doing much more than the other.

bazz26

Cyndi can still belt out a tune:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0NkCvFD5r4

Irish Guitarist

I love most of her music up to Ray Of Light. There were a couple of decent songs on Music. Since then she hasn't done much that appeals to me although I've bought her albums out of curiosity when I've seen them being sold cheap (I got a couple in Dealz for €1.50 each). I've bought a few of her older CD singles as well recently to get the remixes and live tracks.

One of my favourite songs is Live To Tell, written with Patrick Leonard. It's easy enough to find but here's a version that's less well known. It's Patrick Leonards instrumental piano version.

It's a big step down from colloborating with someone like him him to doing a duet called Bitch I'm Madonna with Nicki Minaj.

Space Dog

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

How did that upbeat Clive James quote go ?
"She was a dancer who looked even better than she danced, and sang better than she looked and everyone knew someone who could sing better"

The nearest I could cite
"At the start of the century," Clive James is saying, "there was Madame Curie, who was a terrific scientist, and not at all interested in fame. And today we have Madonna, who's only an average singer and dancer. And she's obsessed by fame. Consumed by it." He gives a "go figure" shrug.
- Clive James

And who is Clive James please? Never heard of him and wont't google him. And who would compare Marie Curie and Madonna? And why?

Franz Von Peppercorn

Space Dog wrote: »

And who is Clive James please? Never heard of him and wont't google him. And who would compare Marie Curie and Madonna? And why?

Prolific Australian/British journalist and critic.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clive_James

He compared them because he found similarities in their personality, and he could because he was an educated man.

goose2005

check_six wrote: »

Always thought "Madonna" was her stage name. Only discovered that it's her given name recently, despite living through the peak Madonna phase of the late 80s early 90s. See also Prince for the same. Who knew?

She's the last of that trio of 1958 mid-west America born superstars still kicking too (herself, Prince, and Michael Jackson).

Prince is also his given name (Prince Rogers Nelson). Many countries make it illegal to give a child a name that is also a title (so you can't call your kid Princess, King, Justice, Lord etc.)

Space Dog

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Prolific Australian/British journalist and critic.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clive_James

He compared them because he found similarities in their personality, and he could because he was an educated man.

Thanks for the lecture! It's still apples and oranges.