Billy86 wrote: » If a boards.ie poster lead a charge that Ana Kriegel's death a few months back was a hoax and goaded others into sending her parents death threats to the point they had to move house, multiple times and hundreds of miles away from her grave... and then continued to goad about it being a hoax, would you want that poster banned, or would you scream about 'free speech' in their defense?
Call Me Jimmy wrote: » Alex Jones wasn't banned for Sandy Hook, he was banned for 'hate speech' / 'glorifying violence'. If he was banned for Sandy Hook I wouldn't have a problem with that if he called people to action. When it gets into the realm of calling it a hoax and his viewers go and do the stuff they did it's a little more grey because your getting into grey territory. In that case it may be less grey but it means a precedent is there and it's creeps into even more subjective territory. My main concern here is the normalisation of all these tactics. As I've said companies can do what they want but that doesn't mean we couldn't as a society spot the dangers and at the very least not applaud this crap. It's so painfully obvious where it's going.
Billy86 wrote: » Should people be banned from a service for repeatedly and knowingly breaking the terms of that service to an extreme extent, ruining lives in the process? It's been asked multiple times now... why does nobody throwing their toys out of the pram want to answer this?
Call Me Jimmy wrote: » He didn't break the terms of service for that. I don't think even one company mentioned that and he was removed off all them what, years after he said it?
Billy86 wrote: » He did, and he did repeatedly. Over and over he did it. And the likes of Youtube let it slide because he made them money. Now, he is persona non grata and Patreon want nothing to do with him he will lose them money. So yeah, to answer your initial question - the irony of that puts a big smile on my face.
Call Me Jimmy wrote: » ... just read the statements, jesus. No patreon 'want nothing to do with' an anti-islam guy because mastercard threatened them.
Call Me Jimmy wrote: » Alex Jones wasn't banned for Sandy Hook, he was banned for 'hate speech' / 'glorifying violence'.
Billy86 wrote: » I know, and that's why it puts a big smile on my face to see the same thing that let him spread his bile and hatred without consequence from the providers (making money) now come back and bite him in the ass as Patreon want nothing to do with him for that exact same reason (losing money). Karma sometimes truly is a thing of beauty.
The Legend Of Kira wrote: » The argument its private company/ private business etc I won,t be hypothetical but I will use a real life example, the ashers bakery case over the refusal to bake the cake, some might say & make the same argument they re a private company they have a right to refuse, how many who support social media companies banning people for different reasons using the argument they re private companies also support ashers bakery right to refuse ?https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2023978/gareth-lee-v-ashers-baking-company-what-is-the-gay-cake-row-case-update/
AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — The Federal Communications Commission has shut down a pirate radio station that served as the flagship outlet for conspiracy theorist Alex Jones. The Austin American-Statesman reports the FCC also has fined the station’s operators $15,000 — a fine the FCC says in a lawsuit the operators are refusing to pay. The lawsuit filed in federal court in Austin alleges Liberty Radio operated on a channel without a license since at least 2013. The lawsuit names as defendants Walter Olenick and M. Rae Nadler-Olenick.
Cienciano wrote: » The only bad thing about this is Alex Jones got as big as he did. He should have been kicked off these platforms years ago.
Ipso wrote: » Yes, but this will make him more popular, turn him into a martyr and feed into the persecution complex feedback loop for his oxygen deprived at birth followers. What really needs to happen is to have a series of defamation lawsuits (a couple items he done recently seemed to imply Mueller or Comey, or someone similar, rape children) where he is reduced to absolutely nothing. I don't think it's just an act, the man has some serious issues but he is surrounded by other supposed adults that should be able to advise him.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » He does what he does for money. Cutting off his income is the right way to stop him.
Ipso wrote: » I really hope he is taken to the cleaners in a lawsuit and ends up in a ditch.
Call Me Jimmy wrote: » cutting someone off who hasn't committed a crime or even been found to be breaking Patreon's terms of service.
After a week of backlash, Twitter has finally suspended the two accounts maintained by far-right conspiracy theorist and Infowars personality Alex Jones — but only for a week. Twitter first suspended Jones’s personal account after he tweeted a video on Tuesday, August 14 in which he called for his followers to ready their “battle rifles” to act against a wide array of opponents, including the mainstream media — a clear violation of Twitter’s content policy against speech or groups that “use or promote violence against civilians to further their causes.”
Christy42 wrote: » Is conspiracy theorist a protected minority these days? Or is it supplement salesmen?
The Legend Of Kira wrote: » The occupy London page has being removed by facebook.https://twitter.com/OccupyLondon/status/1030194410334633985 Please note Im neutral on the Israel/Palestine issue & I wasn,t a follower of the occupy London facebook page- that said I disagree with it being taken by facebook as I support free speech in the context of in the context of freedom of opinion/right to hold opinions & right to express opinions including the right to express political beliefs .
Dohnjoe wrote: » And what is the backstory, did they violate FB ToS? If they have, then they can be blocked/removed at the discretion of FB
Wanderer78 wrote: » Is this a good thing for freedom of speech?
The Legend Of Kira wrote: » RT covered
