mzungu wrote: » Petty move by Orban and his cronies. Whatever one thinks of the content of a GS course, it does not mean it should be singled out for reduced funding (which will effectively ban it). If people want to go the college and study GS then so be it. No government should have the authority to pick and choose what courses they do, and do not like from a university and then withhold funding based on that. The Hungarian government must be pretty damn weak if they are shaking in their boots that a few GS graduates are going to rise up and topple them.
sameoldname wrote: » How many people actually take these courses? I've never met one and I work in an industry where you'd be likely to find them. In fact, I could probably count on only one hand the amount of people I've met in my 30+ years who would seem like they would actually care enough to put in the effort to study such a course.
Lash Into The Pints wrote: » How will Hungarians learn to hate themselves and their country, heritage, religion, culture etc without these vital gender studies courses? What have you done Orban?!
Sal Butamol wrote: » Lots. Almost every single university and college has these courses and departments. You work. That's probably why you have never met one. The degrees from these courses are worse than useless in the real world.
Lash Into The Pints wrote: » Soy boys and blue haired lesbians absolutely wrecked.
Yer Da sells Avon wrote: » Book-burning troglodytes who know the price of everything and the value of fuck all celebrate.
sameoldname wrote: » If use in the "real world" is the criteria for removing funding from courses you could make a fair case for removing such things as pure maths, most artistic and cultural courses, most language courses, philosophy, history, a good chunk of theoretical physics and the list goes on and on. If the people taking these courses never get work in that field then what is the problem? They can't influence anything on the dole surely? Stop getting sucked into thinking that political moves like this are actually making your life in anyway better. They aren't. It's a ploy by a politician to garner easy votes and you've fallen for it. Don't be manipulated by it.
Lash Into The Pints wrote: » Anyway I'm sure you can still study gender, you'll just have to pay for it yourself. Like studying astrology or homeopathy.
sameoldname wrote: » If use in the "real world" is the criteria for removing funding from courses you could make a fair case for removing such things as pure maths, most artistic and cultural courses, most language courses, philosophy, history, a good chunk of theoretical physics and the list goes on and on.If the people taking these courses never get work in that field then what is the problem? They can't influence anything on the dole surely? Stop getting sucked into thinking that political moves like this are actually making your life in anyway better. They aren't. It's a ploy by a politician to garner easy votes and you've fallen for it. Don't be manipulated by it.
Yer Da sells Avon wrote: » You'll be waiting a while before we elect a hard-right government here, I'm afraid.
Lash Into The Pints wrote: » Exactly Hapax, you're free to waste your money on a worthless gender studies degree here. Your butthurt is misplaced.
Yer Da sells Avon wrote: » Long may that continue, much to the consternation of the book-burning fraternity.
DickSwiveller Returns wrote: » They're allowed to teach them but not with State funds. What's the problem?
Lash Into The Pints wrote: » How else we learn of the gender dynamics of burger flippers in Macdonalds?
Nermal wrote: » The reality is that the Hungarian government prioritises the rights of its citizens over illegal immigrants and doesn't want to spend taxpayer's money on indoctrination into a post-modern cult. It's not 'dodgy', frankly it's a beacon.
Sal Butamol wrote: » You assume an awful lot based on what exactly? FYI I have a PhD and have worked and taught in universities here and abroad.
batgoat wrote: » You two are genuinely reading like people who would have been praising Hitler in his fight against the 'globalist agenda'. The rhetoric, the behaviour of the regime etc aren't dissimilar. Dick, it's not according to me, it's according to numerous human rights orgs across the globe. It's simply that you two are so anti immigrant and right wing in your viewpoints, you're incapable of seeing how bad things are getting over there.
DickSwiveller Returns wrote: » Ah I see you're coming from the the everyone who disagrees with me is Hitler school of political thought. I thought you would be in favour of democracy. Or is it only when you like it?
Kaysen Echoing Perfume wrote: » Bringing it back in topic a bit does anyone know anyone that is or has done a women's studies or gender studies course? I'm only guessing but I wonder are there many young people, it would seem a waste to do it if you're looking for a decent job out of it. If imagine most would be fairly well off middle aged and older women who are doing it because it appeals to them, not that they need to carve out a job or career.
DickSwiveller Returns wrote: » Can you give an example?
sameoldname wrote: » Congratulations. You still have biases and from your posting history here it's quite obvious what they are. Orban and his ilk are exploiting them. There's nothing new in what he's doing. You should know better.
Joeytheparrot wrote: » He is trying to ban CEUhttps://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2017/04/hungary-shut-university-170405104057150.html
Grayson wrote: » There's a completely different story to the one you're telling.
The fact is that no-one actually cited that work. No-one actually believed it. What the writers exposed wasn't that gender studies is bad but rather that the academic publishing company is dodgy.
The article you linked to decided to go down a completely different route, ignore the dodgy peer review and focus on the subject matter of the paper instead. They ignored that the writers actually paid someone to get the article in the journal.
Deleted User wrote: » Well you see the thing is that these courses are actually absolutely useless and lead to at most if you are lucky a job in Mcdonalds flipping burgers after three years of brainwashing. These courses are scrapped because they offer nothing. the idea of college is to upskill people for the workforce
dr.fuzzenstein wrote: » The right wing circle jerk will not read this. Too many facts and big words, easier to just scream "Fake News!" and carry on.
Deleted User wrote: » TBH I suspect these days having a Gender studies qualification, combined with any other industry related Masters qualification, [and being female] would be a guarantee for work and speedy promotions.
According to teaching materials created jointly by Education Scotland, the Scottish government and the NHS, pupils will be asked to decide whether they are a boy, a girl or neither.
Joeytheparrot wrote: » I know a few. They have gone to academia, nursing, civil service, teaching, civil society campaigns, economists, journalism, community development work, youth work. Quite diverse. Not all middle class lesbians doing it as a hobby at all.
whisky_galore wrote: » Gender studies is a load of bollix. That it's a subject in uni is laughable. Don't have an objection to it, but better suited to an evening class/night course along with 'discover your aura' or 'creative writing'. What I will say is that they have a weird attitude to women in Hungary. Went into a few places with female friends and even though I was further away from the server/counter, the women were overlooked as if they didn't exist.
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