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Do shops have to let customers use their toilets?

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A Shop in Gorey, Co Wexford, yesterday wouldn't let a 10 year old paying customer use the bathroom and told him to cross a very busy road to go over to the shopping centre to use their toilets.

The young lad nearly pooed himself, literally.

The young lad and his friend and the friends dad were in the shop getting a few bits when the dad realised that he had left his wallet at home and had to go back and get it. So the lads stayed in the shop while the dad went home.

So do shops have to let customers use their toilets and can they tell children to leave the shop to use other facilities?

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iamwhoiam

LirW wrote: »

If it's a 10 year old kid of course. If it's an adult, yeah, probably too if I don't have a dodgy feeling about it.

As a once off I would too . But I presume if it was a regular thing we would all get fed up

LirW

iamwhoiam wrote: »

As a matter of interest would you allow a stranger use your private toilet if in a predicament ?

If it's a 10 year old kid of course. If it's an adult, yeah, probably too if I don't have a dodgy feeling about it.

anewme

Captain Obvious wrote: »

It took just 2 minutes of distraction for James Bulger to be taken from his mother by a couple of kids. Anyone who thinks leaving a ten year old on his own while you head home for 10 minutes is completely deranged.

Janes Bulger was 2.

It was an extreme incident.

My post focus is on the people slagging off a ten year old as if he is at fault fior any of this, which is not acceptable.

Captain Obvious

anewme wrote: »

Jaysus...people being way to harsh here.

Kids would have a great time nosing around in the shop picking out what they wanted till whoever was in charge went and get heir wallet.

Somewhere in that time, child needs to use the loo and doesthe right thing and asks but is refused. Having been told not to leave the shop, again he does what he was told and stays in the shop.

Comments that he's not toilet trained etc are totally un necessary and unhelpful.

I totally understand for reasons outlined above (namely insurance scammers and dirty fckers) why the shop refused and the Dad will just have to accept that as policy, harsh and all as it seems. If the shop staff were told not to let anyone use the staff toilets then they might have gotten into trouble themselves so just give a blanket NO.

What I really don't get though, is the need to slag off a ten year old child.

He's 10 ffs.

It took just 2 minutes of distraction for James Bulger to be taken from his mother by a couple of kids. Anyone who thinks leaving a ten year old on his own while you head home for 10 minutes is completely deranged.

Dempsey

Deleted User wrote: »

I'd imagine they have a right to refuse, but it's probably the most sensible option in terms of reputation and future business to allow somebody use it, particularly if they're from the locality.

Financial incentive shouldnt be the reason. Basic human decency should come first. Seems like that is well down the pecking order for alot of people

[Deleted User]

I'd imagine they have a right to refuse, but it's probably the most sensible option in terms of reputation and future business to allow somebody use it, particularly if they're from the locality.

Donald Trump

Shite in the bucket OP.

Shite in the bucket

Try_harder

corner of hells wrote: »

I've changed my mind and decided to agree with and go against everything AH stands for and not continue a pointless argument .

So how's everyone doing in their Fantasy Football Leagues ?

Didnt enter

corner of hells

colm_mcm wrote: »

I don’t think they are.

I've changed my mind and decided to agree with and go against everything AH stands for and not continue a pointless argument .

So how's everyone doing in their Fantasy Football Leagues ?

Try_harder

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Nothing in that post referes to you

It was a quoted reply to what I said!!!

iamwhoiam

Try_harder wrote: »

Here

Nothing in that post referes to you. Nor does anything in that post say that anyone not allowing her in is unkind
So don't put words in my mouth please

Now enough of de railing this thread

Try_harder

iamwhoiam wrote: »

It was a very young woman who was out all day in heavy showers . I have two daughters who I hope if they were so badly in need that a kind person would come to their aid .As I said a once off request from a lovely young woman . If it happened daily I would definitely not allow it

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MadDog76

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

If a partially toilet-trained 10 year old was left alone ( or with a similarly-aged other kid) in my shop, I'd be calling the guards.

And the Guards would hang up on you.

iamwhoiam

Try_harder wrote: »

insinuating that I wouldn't be a kind person if I didnt let them.

At no stage did I do that ? Quote it

Try_harder

iamwhoiam wrote: »

When was I not ? Agreeable to what What you do with your private facilities is your business ? As is the shop in the OP
No idea what your actual problem is with me ? .

insinuating that I wouldn't be a kind person if I didnt let them.

iamwhoiam

Try_harder wrote: »

a while ago you weren't so agreeable.

When was I not ? Agreeable to what What you do with your private facilities is your business ? As is the shop in the OP
No idea what your actual problem is with me ? .

Try_harder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIOH8Trfas4

iamwhoiam wrote: »

And that is entirely your perogative

a while ago you weren't so agreeable.

iamwhoiam

Try_harder wrote: »

situation?? Now I am intrigued - would I let a door to door charity collector use my loo- still no

And that is entirely your perogative

Try_harder

iamwhoiam wrote: »

I did indeed , doesn't mean you are entitled to know this womans situation ?

situation?? Now I am intrigued - would I let a door to door charity collector use my loo- still no

iamwhoiam

Try_harder wrote: »

why not? you brought it up

I did indeed , doesn't mean you are entitled to know this womans situation ?

Try_harder

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Nor am I . And I would prefer not to go into details

why not? you brought it up

iamwhoiam

Try_harder wrote: »

young woman allow her into my house? No. That creates a whole host of other issues!

What did the charity have them out in the rain????

I'm a kind person, but I'm not naive

Nor am I . And I would prefer not to go into details

Try_harder

iamwhoiam wrote: »

It was a very young woman who was out all day in heavy showers . I have two daughters who I hope if they were so badly in need that a kind person would come to their aid .

young woman allow her into my house? No. That creates a whole host of other issues!

What did the charity have them out in the rain????

I'm a kind person, but I'm not naive

iamwhoiam

Try_harder wrote: »

Charity collector? Use your bucket!

Seriously I'd send them to the public loo.

I dont want strangers ****ting in my house!

It was a very young woman who was out all day in heavy showers . I have two daughters who I hope if they were so badly in need that a kind person would come to their aid .As I said a once off request from a lovely young woman . If it happened daily I would definitely not allow it

Try_harder

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Well in fairness a staff toilet is surely not for public use ? Nor is my private toilet in my house . I had a request once from a charity collector at my door to use my toilet . I had no problem with that as a once off . But if I had two or three requests a week I think I would be simply denying them all the use . You see its not one request that causes people to refuse it is multiple requests and people who think they should be entitled to use a private facility

Charity collector? Use your bucket!

Seriously I'd send them to the public loo.

I dont want strangers shítting in my house!

colm_mcm

corner of hells wrote: »

I think they're required to.

I don’t think they are.

iamwhoiam

Graces7 wrote: »

Excuse my saying so but that is a totally different matter. Shops are per se public places.. If someone were in my house for some reason eg workman, and needed the toilet then of course.
But I am not in the habit of letting total strangers in for no reason???????

A child caught short is a real need. Would hope any shop would help .

The shop may be a public place the toilet may not be

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corner of hells wrote: »

I think they're required to.

I'm informed that they are not required to have public toilets at all.

iamwhoiam

Graces7 wrote: »

Some things are above/outside the law and in the realm of simple kindness. I often have to ask in LIDL due to age related need and always courtesy.

Same re kids surely.

Well in fairness a staff toilet is surely not for public use ? Nor is my private toilet in my house . I had a request once from a charity collector at my door to use my toilet . I had no problem with that as a once off . But if I had two or three requests a week I think I would be simply denying them all the use . You see its not one request that causes people to refuse it is multiple requests and people who think they should be entitled to use a private facility

[Deleted User]

Graces7 wrote:

Excuse my saying so but that is a totally different matter. Shops are per se public places.. If someone were in my house for some reason eg workman, and needed the toilet then of course. But I am not in the habit of letting total strangers in for no reason???????

You are mistaken there. Part of the shop can be seen as a public place but anything off the shop floor is definitely not public. In most cases a customer isn't insured to be "out back" of the shop. Once you pass the "staff only" sign it is dangerous territory.