Yer Da sells Avon wrote: » You, someone who gives off the impression of having never read an academic journal in his life, do not get to decide what is, or is not, an academic subject, Dick.
batgoat wrote: » Hungary is literally becoming a dictatorship at this stage anyway so this is probably the least of their problems. Gender Studies is a perfectly valid field, there's a ton of research in the area and it's an area of study just like history, they even overlap. It has more to do with a regressive government that has very much so been cracking down on everything and is found to be engaged in numerous human rights abuses and attacks on NGOs. You'll proudly just come out with a one liner about snowflakes. But I hope you're just ignorant.
Keepaneye wrote: » Have to really laugh out loud at the usual suspects spouting "but der free speech". They've no problem banning free speech when it suits them.
DickSwiveller Returns wrote: » One of the Gender studies lecturers in UCD has taken the news well.https://twitter.com/MaryMcAuliffe4/status/1027934366180286465
Taytoland wrote: » If you believe it should be taught and funded then you should think similar for creationism right?
dr.fuzzenstein wrote: » Well, if we have to listen to arseholes like Alex Jones, the knuckledraggers should put up with the existence of gender study courses. It's not like anyone is forced to take them or cut their willy off. The reaction on this thread shows me that a lot of people feel threatened. And Hungary is one of the Eastern states that are about to turn into right wing sh*tholes, so I wouldn't take them as a good example.
Sal Butamol wrote: » Hahahaha Christ on a bike
Keepaneye wrote: » About as threatened as your gender studies mates getting their multi-coloured hair in a twist because their social reconstruction cult is getting dismantled.
defrule wrote: » Banning it or removing funding? Which is it?
conorhal wrote: » Any course should involve critical analysis of it's theory.
batgoat wrote: » They're on the path away from democracy, that's the reality. The 2017 Democracy Index classifies them as a 'flawed democracy' at the moment. Press Freedom is marked as 'noticeable problems'. In contrast, Ireland is a 'full democracy' and our press is classified as free. So Hungary is nothing to be aspired to at the moment.
meeeeh wrote: » Taytoland wrote: » If you believe it should be taught and funded then you should think similar for creationism right? Oh you think theology should be banned too? I say let them be...
Taytoland wrote: » meeeeh wrote: » Taytoland wrote: » If every theory or outlandish claim should be taught in education then fine, make that point. The big question is should it be publicly funded. Did he stop funding them too? I bet you they are more politically acceptable. And deeply scientific stuff that is theology keeps being funded...
meeeeh wrote: » Taytoland wrote: » If every theory or outlandish claim should be taught in education then fine, make that point. The big question is should it be publicly funded. Did he stop funding them too? I bet you they are more politically acceptable. And deeply scientific stuff that is theology keeps being funded...
Taytoland wrote: » If every theory or outlandish claim should be taught in education then fine, make that point. The big question is should it be publicly funded.
WinnyThePoo wrote: » Sure he doesn't have the time, to busy trying to take the piss out of abuse victims.
Nermal wrote: » That would be 'democracy index' published by The Economist, yes? I don't rate the opinions of globalist rags, sorry.
batgoat wrote: » Hungary is literally becoming a dictatorship at this stage anyway so this is probably the least of their problems. Gender Studies is a perfectly valid field, there's a ton of research in the area and it's an area of study just like history, they even overlap. It has more to do with a regressive government that has very much so been cracking down on everything and is found to be engaged in numerous human rights abuses and attacks on NGOs. You'll proudly just come out with a one liner about snowflakes. But I hope you're just ignorant.https://www.hrw.org/news/2018/07/17/hungary-determined-silence-any-critics-left-standing
Murray TheDemonic TalkingSkull wrote: » Agreed. The course seems like complete boll*x. But it shouldnt banned. Its a dangerous slippery slope when we start banning things.
DickSwiveller Returns wrote: » Don't worry. I've stayed away from the hate filled sectarians in the Pope thread for days now. You don't have to worry about encountering an opposing opinion.
WinnyThePoo wrote: » Nope, you where banned from the thread.
DickSwiveller Returns wrote: » I admire the Hungarians for standing up to do the EU bullies and the NGO professional money grabbers. They have a fine immigration stance, too.
Ulysses Gaze wrote: » If you are for Free Speech and exchange of ideas, you should be against this ban. Doesn't matter if you like to content of the courses, you should be defending their right to teach them.
batgoat wrote: » This is a bit like those people who admire Putin for being a hard man and ignore the terrible things that occur under him. You've literally fallen for the propaganda of a pretty dodgy government which will likely go fully authoritarian in the coming years. I'm pretty proud I don't support a xenophobic, anti democratic and corrupt regime cause that's exactly what it is.
batgoat wrote: » Human rights org across the globe provide plenty of examples of the issues in Hungary, you'd have to actively ignore the state of the country. They're regressing under a very dodgy government. So shouting 'globalist rag' doesn't change the reality.
meeeeh wrote: » Taytoland wrote: » meeeeh wrote: » Did he stop funding them too? I bet you they are more politically acceptable. And deeply scientific stuff that is theology keeps being funded... Theology/bible studies etc are established, rich academic fields. Gender studies was created to cater for feminists who couldn't get a job with their English Lit. degree.
Taytoland wrote: » meeeeh wrote: » Did he stop funding them too? I bet you they are more politically acceptable. And deeply scientific stuff that is theology keeps being funded... Theology/bible studies etc are established, rich academic fields. Gender studies was created to cater for feminists who couldn't get a job with their English Lit. degree.
meeeeh wrote: » Did he stop funding them too? I bet you they are more politically acceptable. And deeply scientific stuff that is theology keeps being funded...
meeeeh wrote: » Oh so now we are supposed to admire a Central European wannabe dictator. For what exactly? To give morons something to cheer about? I'm sure you can solve whole pile of economic problems just by not financing gender studies. Cynic in me would think it is not about the subject but because it's usually taught by left leaning lecturers and you don't want to have them on state wage list. They might encourage the students to protest against the government. But that would be just me...
DickSwiveller Returns wrote: » Theology/bible studies etc are established, rich academic fields. Gender studies was created to cater for feminists who couldn't get a job with their English Lit. degree.
DickSwiveller Returns wrote: » According to you. Terrible things occur in every country. If the Hungarians want Orban's government who are you to talk down to them and tell them they're wrong. Wasn't he democratically elected??
Nermal wrote: » The reality is that the Hungarian government prioritises the rights of its citizens over illegal immigrants and doesn't want to spend taxpayer's money on indoctrination into a post-modern cult. It's not 'dodgy', frankly it's a beacon.
meeeeh wrote: » DickSwiveller Returns wrote: » meeeeh wrote: » Bwahahaha. Oh ok. So how well did you study both to come up with this educated opinion? Bwahahaha I don't have to study linguistics or philosophy to know they're established academic subjects.
DickSwiveller Returns wrote: » meeeeh wrote: » Bwahahaha. Oh ok. So how well did you study both to come up with this educated opinion? Bwahahaha I don't have to study linguistics or philosophy to know they're established academic subjects.
meeeeh wrote: » Bwahahaha. Oh ok. So how well did you study both to come up with this educated opinion?
