Ulysses Gaze wrote: » If you are for Free Speech and exchange of ideas, you should be against this ban. Doesn't matter if you like to content of the courses, you should be defending their right to teach them.
DickSwiveller Returns wrote: » They're allowed to teach them but not with State funds. What's the problem?
Ulysses Gaze wrote: » And how will universities do that if funding is cut for the courses and legally enforced?
DickSwiveller Returns wrote: » One of the Gender studies lecturers in UCD has taken the news well.https://twitter.com/MaryMcAuliffe4/status/1027934366180286465
Keepaneye wrote: » DickSwiveller Returns wrote: » One of the Gender studies lecturers in UCD has taken the news well.https://twitter.com/MaryMcAuliffe4/status/1027934366180286465 What a surprise.
PlaneSpeeking wrote: » Odd - never heard of her but already blocked on her on Twitter!!!
conorhal wrote: » Any course should involve critical analysis of it's theory. If it doesn't it's not education it's indoctrination. I bet you can guess what would happen on such a course if you wrote a paper on the wage gap that refuted it. Critical analysis is not welcome. These kind of cultish courses are not something I care to see public money spent on. None of these courses have been 'banned' in Hungary, public funding has been withdrawn.
DickSwiveller Returns wrote: » They'll have to raise their own funds. I don't understand what it has to do with free speech, unless you think Free speech means the government should be obliged to pay for useless courses. Gender studies isn't an academic subject. It is ideological nonsense.
DickSwiveller Returns wrote: » Well, I am the proud holder of a law degree from one of our best universities, Mr Avon. Care to apologise?
Yer Da sells Avon wrote: » You, someone who gives off the impression of having never read an academic journal in his life, do not get to decide what is, or is not, an academic subject, Dick.
conorhal wrote: » At lest he can punctuate.
Yer Da sells Avon wrote: » You're also, by your own admission, the proud holder of a Twitter 'troll account', so you'll have to excuse me if I take your protestations with a pinch of salt.
DickSwiveller Returns wrote: » Great news coming out of Hungary. Victor Orban's government have stopped universities offering courses in Gender Studies. It's about time these courses were exposed for the unscientific propaganda vehicles they are.https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/europe/orban-bans-gender-studies-courses-in-hungary-report-says-1.6365826
Murray TheDemonic TalkingSkull wrote: » Ulysses Gaze wrote: » If you are for Free Speech and exchange of ideas, you should be against this ban. Doesn't matter if you like to content of the courses, you should be defending their right to teach them. Agreed. The course seems like complete boll*x. But it shouldnt banned. Its a dangerous slippery slope when we start banning things.
batgoat wrote: » Hungary is literally becoming a dictatorship at this stage anyway so this is probably the least of their problems. Gender Studies is a perfectly valid field, there's a ton of research in the area and it's an area of study just like history, they even overlap.
batgoat wrote: » It has more to do with a regressive government that has very much so been cracking down on everything and is found to be engaged in numerous human rights abuses and attacks on NGOs. You'll proudly just come out with a one liner about snowflakes. But I hope you're just ignorant.https://www.hrw.org/news/2018/07/17/hungary-determined-silence-any-critics-left-standing
conorhal wrote: » It's cracked down on foreign funded Soros NGOs, personally I've no problem with banning anything involving that guy, he interferes in national policy more then your average Russian bot farm.
In June, the National Assembly passed a law effectively stigmatizing NGOs that received foreign funding. Under the law on the transparency of organizations funded from abroad, NGOs receiving more than EUR24,000 direct or indirect funding from abroad had to re-register as a “civic organization funded from abroad” and to put this label on every publication. Additionally, the law required NGOs to reveal the identity of their funders and supporters above a threshold of around EUR1,650. The law was adopted amid a government-sponsored communication campaign discrediting NGOs and accusing several of undermining national sovereignty and security. By only covering certain types of civil society organizations, the law directly discriminated against these organizations and imposed limitations on their right to association, including the right to seek, receive and utilize resources. In mid-July, the European Commission notified Hungary of another infringement procedure, based on an assessment that this law imposed measures at odds with the right to freedom of association and unjustified and disproportionate restrictions on the free movement of capital, and raised concerns in relation to the obligation of protecting private life and personal datahttps://www.amnesty.org/en/countries/europe-and-central-asia/hungary/report-hungary/