C__MC wrote: » Are these letters real or a fictional myth in the GAA world? I love to see an image of one.
mickeyk wrote: » He just left to manage his native county which is an understandable ambition. He has them flying alright and they just won the U20’s, I think they could be a real factor next year if they can hang on to Cian.
50HX wrote: » the word in kildare is that cian o' n is on the move to a rugby provence jack o connor to be offered the kildare job
PARlance wrote: » For all the talk, I think it comes down to 2 main things: He didn't have his team well enough prepared 1. Physically or 2. Tactically(defensively). And there really shouldn't be any excuse for either.
corny wrote: » The buck stops with the manager alright but i've found it interesting how the players have seemingly escaped blame in this. You can be a tactical mastermind and if players don't buy into it 100% it can easily look like you're not doing your job as a manager. If a man runs through the centre of the defence is it the managers fault or is the players not working as hard as they should to close down the space? Its hard to tell sometimes but there's no way anyone can say that the players are removing the doubt by killing themselves in games. They're not and they haven't for a while now. Not only has this been largely overlooked but its lead to a further criticism of Fitzmaurice in that he hasn't had the players conditioned correctly. Maybe he is doing whats required. Maybe they're the ones just not willing to take personal responsibility and put in the effort required in training and on the pitch. Given what i've seen of them i think thats far more likely tbh. Hard to believe but i think a good number of the older players are comfortable losing and maybe they set the tone for the rest. Its not as sharp a criticism as it seems though. Sometimes things get stale in a set up and human nature is what it is. Players aren't robots and maybe hearing the same voice over and over again grinds them down. Few managers are able to keep players on their toes long term. Its not easy, especially when you're not winning. Earlier in his tenure Fitzmaurice was responsible for some decent innovations and his teams didn't have such obvious deficiencies. When his team really played for him in 2014 they were a serious team attack and defence. They've just lost the bite since then and its made him look bad imo.
mickeyk wrote: » Jimmy Hyland? Looks to be some prospect. I don’t think it’s a stretch to say we’d have had a much better chance with Clifford and O’Shea but bringing them up was the right thing to do IMO.
mickeyk wrote: » dobman88 wrote: » Why did Cian O Neill leave? Have heard he wanted more of a say in picking the team and it was a non runner for EF and the selectors? Any truth to it? Would agree Kerry haven't looked anywhere near as fit as they did with him around. Just look at the difference in Kildare the last couple of years, they're finishing games very strongly and no player looks out on their feet, they just don't have the footballers to do damage at the moment. Contrast that with Kerry who have an abundance of talent just not the fitness. He just left to manage his native county which is an understandable ambition. He has them flying alright and they just won the U20’s, I think they could be a real factor next year if they can hang on to Cian.
dobman88 wrote: » Why did Cian O Neill leave? Have heard he wanted more of a say in picking the team and it was a non runner for EF and the selectors? Any truth to it? Would agree Kerry haven't looked anywhere near as fit as they did with him around. Just look at the difference in Kildare the last couple of years, they're finishing games very strongly and no player looks out on their feet, they just don't have the footballers to do damage at the moment. Contrast that with Kerry who have an abundance of talent just not the fitness.
Amprodude wrote: » After the abuse Fitzmaurice got from the Kerry Fans I don't know who would want to take the job in Kerry.
Fr Tod Umptious wrote: » I'm really struggling to find this so called abuse. Fitz and other got hate mail, how much we don't know, but the majority of people I know have have really respected him as a person, the line would usually be something like "Fitz is sound and all but...." I've never heard anyone say a bad thing about him as a person.
PARlance wrote: » How would you find this abuse. You won't have people publicising that they're send hate mail. All it takes is a few lunatics to send a few letters. You can imagine that the letters don't just contain a criticism of team tactics. You would be fairly angry if any comments/threats were made about family or friends. They're not going to be made public. Horan went to the Gardaver ones he got. It's all well and good saying the majority of people are sound but if some pr1ck pens an anonymous letter attacking loved ones, you would rightly be sickened.
50HX wrote: the word in kildare is that cian o' n is on the move to a rugby provence
The Talking Bread wrote: » Christ this Hate Mail saga is turning into the new #MeToo movement! !! Brian Sheehan getting his sob story out now !!! If it is true the Kerry public owe Paudi an apology!
shockframe wrote: » Me Too was on the front page of the examiner today running with the John Kiely story!
dobman88 wrote: » And after seeing how sh i te Cork footballers are with no hope of winning anything I don't know who would want the job.
dobman88 wrote: » Diarmuid Murphy into 10/11 to be new manager. I know he's been involved in some capacity since retiring but would be a strange appointment surely given his lack of experience?
Amprodude wrote: » why are you diverting the point to cork football? are you discussing my point or are you attacking me personally? Fitzmaurice said it not me and you are trying to defend how horrible Kerry supporters were to him with hate mail. The guy has a young family for heavens sake. Shame on you.
Amprodude wrote: » dobman88 wrote: » Diarmuid Murphy into 10/11 to be new manager. I know he's been involved in some capacity since retiring but would be a strange appointment surely given his lack of experience? I suppose you won't be happy with him either.
Amprodude wrote: » I suppose you won't be happy with him either.
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