ohnonotgmail wrote: » Eh... https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/08/06/facebook-deletes-infowars-alex-jones-hate-speech-lgbt-racist-hate-speech/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=FB_IA&utm_campaign=PN
splashuum wrote: » Wether you like Alex or not is besides the point. Can people not see the monopoly these platforms now have ? This sort of draconian action has opened a seriously dangerous door. All these companies got rid of Alex within hours of each other and not one of them were able to give or pinpoint a specific reason for the removal of his channels.
They are now almost entirely controlling what we see and hear. The death of independent media looms!
Hector Bellend wrote: » ohnonotgmail wrote: » Facebook, Youtube, Apple et al are entitled to stop him saying it. It is their platform. They make the rules. What are the rules?
ohnonotgmail wrote: » Facebook, Youtube, Apple et al are entitled to stop him saying it. It is their platform. They make the rules.
splashuum wrote: » There is regular LBGT members on Alex’s show. One of the many high profile members being Milo Yionnopolous. And did you actually just reply with a “PinkNews” article ? Please at least do a bit of research instead of taking sensational fake news sites as gospel.
Grayson wrote: » The irony of calling pink news fake news when defending alex jones. Someone also replied with a cnbc link. is that fake news too?
DickSwiveller Returns wrote: » Do you have faith in these companies; that they're completely fair minded in who they ban and who they don't. Do you think it is possible that ideological bias can play a part in such bans. For example, Sarah Jeong, the journalist recently hired by the NY Times has spent years on twitter engaged in what some would consider 'hate speech' against white people, yet she is still there.
super_furry wrote: » Alex Jones is still on Twitter too. Anyway, I've been reliably informed that Infowars actually deleted their Youtube account themselves in a false-flag attack in which Alex Jones is a professional crisis actor. Also he's Bill Hicks.
DickSwiveller Returns wrote: » You didn't answer any of my questions
Grayson wrote: » She trolled some trolls. When someone trolled her with racist/offensive language she replied with the same language. She never initiated these contacts. Her current employer and her previous employer have both vouched for her. And she's apologised for any offence she may have caused. Do you think a person writing those kind of tweets, substituting the word black for white would be punished? the alt right are trying to get people like her fired for a bad joke. When did I say I agree with that? And to mention her in a thread about alex jones is just bad whatabouttery. She never trolled sandyhook survivors. I'm making the point that these companies are driven by ideological bias in their enforcement of rules. You didn't address any f my questions.
Grayson wrote: » She trolled some trolls. When someone trolled her with racist/offensive language she replied with the same language. She never initiated these contacts. Her current employer and her previous employer have both vouched for her. And she's apologised for any offence she may have caused.
the alt right are trying to get people like her fired for a bad joke.
And to mention her in a thread about alex jones is just bad whatabouttery. She never trolled sandyhook survivors.
Pac1Man wrote: » I'm sure someone has mentioned this quote already but Noam Chomsky said it best. "If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all."
Wanderer78 wrote: » Save yourself the time and energy, and don't bother
Ulysses Gaze wrote: » Wait a minute....what?
super_furry wrote: » HE. STILL. HAS. FREEDOM. OF. EXPRESSION.
Lilah Defeated Pediatrics wrote: » No idea about frogs, but it actually said on the news this morning (via The University of York), that earth worms were absorbing traces of Prozac {Fluoxetine} (apparently millions are on this stuff) through the soil. Which in turn was turing female Starlings off natural reproduction after eating them. The bioaccumulation of pharma products through the ecology may also have small direct effects on humans. So don't eat any Starlings for lunch whatever you do, or urban blackbird pie.
Aidan Freezing Rattler wrote: The world needs to know about the chemicals that turn the freaking frogs gay!
super_furry wrote: » We can still do that. Alex Jones isn't going to go away. He still has his voice, still has free speech and will still have his core audience. The only thing changing is that, like others who seek to radicalise, he won't have access to certain privately owned platforms.
Grayson wrote: » Don't know about you but I always fancy a cockmeat sandwich after a bottle of Evian. That might be because it's french though.
P_1 wrote: » Have to say I'm not a fan of no platforming. Irrespective of how abhorrent you may find someone's opinions its better to leave them in the open and open to public scrutiny and ridicule. As was mentioned in another thread its shït like this that will get the Orange Buffoon reelected in 2020.
Call Me Jimmy wrote: » I think he is potentially dangerous but so are a lot of things. Really would like to hear what you mean by 'actively harmful', I mean really specifically. He didn't get banned for anything he said about sandy hook. Was heartened to see youtuber Kyle Kulinksy seeing the wood for the trees on this issue and as he said nobody debunked/attacked Jones more vehemently than him.
Malayalam wrote: » Given that youtube hosts beheading videos and videos from extremist Imams inciting hatred I'd say Jones is fairly low down the pecking order of depravity and being disgusting on corporate bandwidth. Not to mention the mind numbing inanity of what constitutes the bulk of content on all these platforms.
nullzero wrote: » I think this only serves to galvanize the people who absorb this stuff and ultimately could lead to another term for Trump.
Cienciano wrote: » I don't think youtube host these videos you're talking about like beheading videos. Any chance you could link some?
Malayalam wrote: » I can't really, I've never seen any, thank goodness. But my young adult children have told me they have seen them on there. Perhaps they only last for a while or are edited into clip collections or something. As for the radical Imams again I have heard from Arab-speaking friends that one can access them on Youtube. I am going on what I've been told but maybe the info is incorrect.
mcmoustache wrote: » That could be the case but it could go the other way too. If the right in the US treat this as something they're willing to fight about, Jones's nonsense will be under more scrutiny in the press and it could create an association in the minds of independents between Republicans and Alex Jones. It's one thing to be associated with Trump but Alex Jones is a whole other level of crazy.
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