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Clare GAA discussion thread

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Thought I'd start this thread as haven't found one of the same.

So, 2010.. new decade... new beginnings? With the aim of the League being to get back into Division 1, could Clare also achieve success in Munster this year?

The fixtures for 2010:

31.01.2010 Waterford v Clare(Waterford Crystal Cup SF)

21.02.2010 Clare v Down (NHL)
28.02.2010 Laois v Clare (NHL)
14.03.2010 Clare v Wexford (NHL)
21.03.2010 Antrim v Clare (NHL)
28.03.2010 Carlow v Clare (NHL)
04.04.2010 Clare v Westmeath (NHL)
18.04.2010 Kildare v Clare (NHL)

07.06.2010 Waterford v Clare (MHC)

As well as a proposed friendly versus Cork, Ger O'Loughlin has a good load of matches to blood players from U-21's into the senior game. With the opponents in the League not posing a major threat some would argue Clare wont get as much preparation as Div 1 teams, but maybe it will give them an opportunity to focus on their strength and conditioning?

So, Clare face Waterford on Sunday at 2pm in Ballyduff Upper.. I think they should win against this weakened Waterford side, but I think it will be close tbh. But could Waterford topple us in the pre season tournament?

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windy shepard henderson

Reputable Rog wrote: »

Clare team( some of them) dropped to the train station by bus, the rest walked. Train to Limerick and then bus to Ennis. Bizzare.
Galway with outriders out the Holycross road, what in the name of god is going on?

they usually travel by train as mentioned above , it probably makes more sense given how bad traffic can be at times down there

BloodyBill

What happened David McInerney? He used be so good and now is a liability. Pushing his man in the back for no reason...giving hospital passes left,right and centre. I think he needs a long holiday.

BloodyBill

Clare always travel by train when they can.

deaddonkey15

We really do play some suicidal hurling at times. Couple that with our usual tendency to hit a shocking amount of wides and it makes it very difficult to win any championship match. Yet there was only 1 point between us today. Very frustrating. If we could actually put together a solid 70 minute performance we'd blow away any side in the country.

I genuinely believe we'd have won the All-Ireland if we beat Galway today. Very disappointing.

Reputable Rog

Clare team( some of them) dropped to the train station by bus, the rest walked. Train to Limerick and then bus to Ennis. Bizzare.
Galway with outriders out the Holycross road, what in the name of god is going on?

sliabh 1956

Limerick will win the All Ireland unless Galway start hurling for the whole 70 mins
Clare had them on the ropes and Limerick are far better than Clare at this moment in time especially when you take their bench into consideration. Galway seem to think that they have a divine right to win games it must be very fustrating for a galway fan to watch their team play with a nonchalant approach to the game at times. Limerick might not be so accommodating the next day

BloodyBill

Yeah Clare are very talented. No lack of ability. It's just the top 6 inches like the above poster said. I have no problem with O Donnells ,Galvins, Moreys decision making but some of the backs are silly as goats.

Hidalgo

Amprodude wrote: »

First 25 mins on both games they were destroyed and 2 games v Cork this year. They are very beatable.

Every team is very beatable. Thats what makes this year's championship so exciting.
Before last weekend I'd have rated Galway as a step ahead of the rest, and even a few steps ahead of Clare.

Amprodude

Noveight wrote: »

Time is all that will tell, raw talent is certainly there. Bit more consistency and a better sense of direction and we’d be motoring.

talent is certainly there and Clare are a good team.

awec

Clare's problem is in the top six inches. More composure and better decision making. The talent appears to be there.

Noveight

Amprodude wrote: »

I think the same was thought in 2013 they won the All Ireland. werent seen again until 2018.

Time is all that will tell, raw talent is certainly there. Bit more consistency and a better sense of direction and we’d be motoring.

Amprodude

Noveight wrote: »

Took last years all ireland champions almost three hours of hurling to beat them by a single score. There are promising signs there, I believe the future is bright for this current group.

I think the same was thought in 2013 when they won the All Ireland. They werent seen again until 2018. Doesn't work like that all the time.

Noveight

Amprodude wrote: »

First 25 mins on both games they were destroyed and 2 games v Cork this year. They are very beatable.

Took last years all ireland champions almost three hours of hurling to beat them by a single score. There are promising signs there, I believe the future is bright for this current group.

Amprodude

Noveight wrote: »

Arguably the width of a post away from an AI final today, no doubt but their day will come and I’d say sooner rather than later.

First 25 mins on both games they were destroyed and 2 games v Cork this year. They are very beatable.

Noveight

BloodyBill wrote: »

Not if their decision making remains so poor. Most other top teams would have sunk Galway today but the wides from Clare were awfull. I don't see the likes of Kelly improving his decision making. Look at that last pass into Shangaher..shocking. If he dropped it short then Shanagher would have had a chance.

Arguably the width of a post away from an AI final today, no doubt but their day will come and I’d say sooner rather than later.

BloodyBill

Noveight wrote: »

Only inches in it, did great to pull it back after a dismal first half. SoD’s goal had shades of 2013 off it

There’s an All Ireland in this group of players in coming years.

Not if their decision making remains so poor. Most other top teams would have sunk Galway today but the wides from Clare were awfull. I don't see the likes of Kelly improving his decision making. Look at that last pass into Shangaher..shocking. If he dropped it short then Shanagher would have had a chance.

Noveight

Only inches in it, did great to pull it back after a dismal first half. SoD’s goal had shades of 2013 off it

There’s an All Ireland in this group of players in coming years.

Amprodude

LuckyGent88 wrote: »

Gutted

The ref nearly saved Clare and rode Galway.

LuckyGent88

Gutted

windy shepard henderson

last ounce boys ....to the very last ounce , Hon the Banner :pac:

Clareman

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

i regard you as a great poster on here but you panic too much :pac: if we lose tomorrow it will be by the minimum . we were on top of em all last week .....relax

We won the last 56 minutes by 8 points, all we have to do is keep that up :pac::cool:

BloodyBill

Clareman wrote: »

Figerty wrote: »

There's no loss to Galway naming McInerney. 26 sub,. they brought back on lads last week. Even if the went to extra time again, they can do have 10 subs and not use him.
Start Podge, keep Shanagher back. He can't be match fit yet. Hard to hold Podge two days in a row.

Shanagher can't start, he just can't, if anything I'd start McGrath instead of Podge but that would only because Podge would be a better sub than McGrath, McGrath was poor last week

McGrath has been very poor for a long time now and really ought not to be on the match day squad. He's brought on every game and tries his heart out but his passing is terrible and his pace is completely gone...he tries to compensate by running straight at his man but usually just over carries. I'd have Shanagher as first sub and McCarthy next

windy shepard henderson

Clareman wrote: »

Galway had an unbelievable amount of wides last week, a lot of those wides could be put down to the "Hill End" but won't be an issue tomorrow. Our middle third has to stand up for the first 15 minutes tomorrow, last week we needed a lot of things for Galway to go wrong and everything for us to go right, well the same thing goes for tomorrow.

i regard you as a great poster on here but you panic too much :pac: if we lose tomorrow it will be by the minimum . we were on top of em all last week .....relax

Clareman

Figerty wrote: »

McGrath was indecisive on the ball.. but look at how much ball he got hold off last week compared to others. He probably had more possession that Malone had in the entire game.
He made one great block down on the cusack stand side. He is very close to firing on all cylinders but seems to lack a bit of extra form at the moment.
Hopefully he will click, because if he does he is a massive threat.

I'd keep podge on He opens the space for others, he just seem to not have a fast first touch last week. He will bounce back; I wouldn't like to be marking him tomorrow.

I agree 100% mcgrath confidence is gone, only hope he has its as a starter not a sub

Figerty

Clareman wrote: »

Shanagher can't start, he just can't, if anything I'd start McGrath instead of Podge but that would only because Podge would be a better sub than McGrath, McGrath was poor last week

McGrath was indecisive on the ball.. but look at how much ball he got hold off last week compared to others. He probably had more possession that Malone had in the entire game.
He made one great block down on the cusack stand side. He is very close to firing on all cylinders but seems to lack a bit of extra form at the moment.
Hopefully he will click, because if he does he is a massive threat.

I'd keep podge on He opens the space for others, he just seem to not have a fast first touch last week. He will bounce back; I wouldn't like to be marking him tomorrow.

Clareman

Figerty wrote: »

There's no loss to Galway naming McInerney. 26 sub,. they brought back on lads last week. Even if the went to extra time again, they can do have 10 subs and not use him.
Start Podge, keep Shanagher back. He can't be match fit yet. Hard to hold Podge two days in a row.

Shanagher can't start, he just can't, if anything I'd start McGrath instead of Podge but that would only because Podge would be a better sub than McGrath, McGrath was poor last week

Clareman

Galway had an unbelievable amount of wides last week, a lot of those wides could be put down to the "Hill End" but won't be an issue tomorrow. Our middle third has to stand up for the first 15 minutes tomorrow, last week we needed a lot of things for Galway to go wrong and everything for us to go right, well the same thing goes for tomorrow.

Figerty

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

i reckon canning will go in the corner , and most likely jack brownes corner , management would be wise to keep patch on him just to keep the free count down

very surprised to hear mcinerney is on the galway panel , he will be a huge loss for them but if he is named he must not be that badly injured as first taught

will podge start? surly shannaher caused enough problems to galway last week to warrant a nod , he also played over 30 minutes of hurling last week so fitness wont be a probem ,

regardless of the scoreline we need to introduce ian galvin earlier then the last 5 or 10 minutes of the game

There's no loss to Galway naming McInerney. 26 sub,. they brought back on lads last week. Even if the went to extra time again, they can do have 10 subs and not use him.
Start Podge, keep Shanagher back. He can't be match fit yet. Hard to hold Podge two days in a row.

letowski

Clare have to start solidly tomorrow, and so much of this is going to stem from the puckouts again and building a platform to launch attacks. Galway didnt press full court on Clare's puckouts and we went on to win all of them in the second half. Clare certainly are not getting this luxury tomorrow. Also Horgan definitely does not suit us, he has no time for quick puckoiys as Tuohy found out against Wexford.

It will all come down to who's terms the game will be played on. If Galway keep things tight and structured, they will run over us. That's why again surviving the first 20 minutes is crucial as games nowadays dont open up loose til later. An idea might be is to start with Galvin deep, hold out, then transition to more of an orthodox formation when things loosen up. The management need to be careful though if they decide not to have Galvin deep because Galway dont align their attack with 6 forwards, Canning, Mannion and Cooney play miles from goal most of the time. Its important someone is holding the center so our full back line is not exposed, that the backs defend as a unit.

Clareman

Hidalgo wrote: »

If Canning goes to full forward, I'd be tempted to drop Cleary a few yards to stay in front of him and have Galvin drop to 6.

Another option would be switch David McInerney out to the HB line, only problem is we haven't really rotated positions alot during the league.

First thing I thought if a restricted Canning going to full forward was for Cleary to mark him, it'd "almost" be perfect, but the fear would be the other Galway forwards running through, Cleary wouldn't know what to do.