SecretsOfEarth wrote: » https://twitter.com/Rubberbandits/status/1025069781253283841 For someone who's meant to be advocating for and promoting Limerick, he'd want to be fairly clueless not to know this.
Billy86 wrote: » I watch a lot of TV shows and whatnot, but the last time I watched actual TV was over a year ago, save for one six nations rugby game where the internet was acting wonky. It's fairly common for people to not actually watch the television anymore,and to go for the likes of netflix etc.
SnazzyPig wrote: » If you're watching TV shows you're watching television.
Brian? wrote: » If you believe in equal rights of men and women, you are completely aligned with the dictionary definition of feminism.
I really don’t see the confusion.
Brian? wrote: » Feminism is concerned about equal rights for women. Not extra rights. Historically women did not have equal rights, are you going argue that ? If you believe in equal rights of men and women, you are completely aligned with the dictionary definition of feminism. I really don’t see the confusion.
Brian? wrote: » I don’t think that’s correct. Why do you think it comes with a guilt trip? Do you believe Blin boy is telling men they should feel guilty for simply being men? I don’t think that’s correct.
DickSwiveller Returns wrote: » Do all these male feminists call themselves masculinists too?
Silentcorner wrote: » Ya I would agree with that. Can you please show me, in the dictionary definition of Feminism, which you provided .... "the advocacy of women's rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes" ...where in that definition are men's rights mentioned? If the dictionary definition was "the advocacy of mens and womens rights on the grounds of equality of the sexes" Then that would make me a Feminist, but it is not what Feminism is, it is the advocacy of women's rights, where that collective see fit it must be said. I'm sorry you have been hoodwinked by the strong media narrative that creates the illusion Feminism is the pursuit of equality, when it is a purely an advocacy for women's rights, which by the way they are perfectly entitled to do...
Deleted User wrote: » So father's being dragged through the courts to see their kids..do they need feminism?
Outlaw Pete wrote: » Yawn. You've been on enough threads over the years to know that many people who speak out against feminism today have no issue with feminism as it once was and which the dictionary definition pertains to. If genuine 'equality' was all feminists ever sought then you would never hear a bad word said about it, but clearly it isn't, which is why you even have some feminists themselves speaking out against what it has become and what's been done it's name. Even writing books on just that aspect of it alone. Oh yes you do, as it's been pointed out to you many many times. You're just looking to get spoon fed once again, have all the negative aspects of third wave feminism (along with the negative effects they in turn) have had on society, explained to you once again. Users have pulled your head from the sand on this multiple times only for you to then pop up on another thread with your head firmly back there. Horses and water comes to mind.
Sal Butamol wrote: » The probably have to check with their missus first
Dannyriver wrote: » Go Irish women , world cup hockey finalists 2018 , Irishmen everywhere will take pride from your achievements and for showing us how its done. Unbelievable performance
Silentcorner wrote: » We are all equal, but some are more equal than others!!
Brian? wrote: » "the advocacy of women's rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes"' - men and women have equal rights. It's a simple definition. It doesn't need to make mention of men's writes because it's explicitly about both genders have equal rights . I can't see how I've been hoodwinked, when I am quite clear about what I believe feminism to mean. The correct meaning of the word. "Equality of the sexes" is the qualifier to the notion of " women's rights". Equal rights. Not advocating for women to have more rights. It really is black and white.
Brian? wrote: » Historically women did not have equal rights, are you going argue that ?
Wibbs wrote: » Actually I would argue that, it was certainly not nearly so clear cut as you paint it. Historically in most cultures and times people had few rights. For much of European history outside of a tiny elite of nobles and clergymen(and women) and a slightly larger merchant class, a large majority of the population were not far above chattel. Actual slavery, indentured slaves and serfdom was the lot of most men and women until well past the Middle Ages(in places like Russia into the 20th century). Men and women were "valued" differently alright. Men for their muscle power and arrow then bullet stopping abilities, women for their muscle power and ability to produce more bullet stoppers. Because of the latter "ability" women and children were more "valued" by societies. Until mechanised war came along women were rarely involved directly and far fewer women were killed, though rape was common with invading armies. When armies won battles or wars the men on the other side were usually killed outright or if they were lucky enslaved, women were rarely slaughtered in such a manner. Being a vanquished women might not be pleasant, but was rarely fatal. Take democracy and the vote. In the vast majority of European/Western nations women got the vote at the same time or soon after the common man did(Switzerland being an oddball there). Take our neighbour England, women of wealth and those who paid rates as business owners had the right to vote before the common man(though few took up the option). In short this commonly repeated notion of Women In The Past© beaten down and enslaved to their male masters is largely a fiction and certainly doesn't paint a true picture of the complexities involved. Inequality was far more based on class, wealth and position. Gender was in the mix certainly in some regards, but it came down the list.
Sal Butamol wrote: » It will brighten up through the afternoon in most areas with warm sunny spells. Highest temperatures will range from 18 degrees to 24 degrees, coolest along Atlantic coasts, in light west to northwest breezes. TONIGHT Dry in most places tonight in calm conditions. Later in the night, some patchy rain and drizzle will reach the northwest coast. Lowest temperatures 10 to 14 degrees.
Dannyriver wrote: » Facts used as fudge....they obfuscate the real issues and deny the experiences of women in history. Known in psychological terms as intellectualisation. Radical Muslims do the same when they are accused of unfairly treating women by denying them legislative power in Sharia law. How a society operates and who gets what power is based on the legislature and government of each country. Women have been wholly underrepresented in these positions for millennia. Any rights that women have been granted through the years have been given to them either by violent/non violent protest or by left leaning men. Any serious sociological historian would laugh at your claims. Highlighting residual data as more than it is worth is a spurious way of challenging an argument. And I'm someone who agrees with a lot of what Jordan Peterson talks about from a contemporary point of view and would be very much against the minority radical feminists who stereotype all men as potential rapists Im also against the radical snowflake men who believe all feminists are looking for dominance.
Dannyriver wrote: » The moment you step back from the computer and wonder if it's ethical to continue an adult conversation with a child
Dannyriver wrote: » Facts used as fudge....
they obfuscate the real issues and deny the experiences of women in history.
Known in psychological terms as intellectualisation.
Radical Muslims do the same when they are accused of unfairly treating women by denying them legislative power in Sharia law.
How a society operates and who gets what power is based on the legislature and government of each country. Women have been wholly underrepresented in these positions for millennia.
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