Brian? wrote: » I didn’t post a vague definition of feminism. I posted the correct dictionary definition of it. If you can’t understand that, I can’t help you.
listermint wrote: » White males like you..... What sort of ugly divisive stuff have you as an Irish white man had to put up with ? I'd garner like me an Irish white male. Nothing! Because I don't spend my time on alt right American websites. I'd laugh at you in the pub if you came out with this sort of ****e. America has alot to answer for .
Silentcorner wrote: » I haven't redefined anything. You have posted a definition of Feminism. It is vague. You have identified as a feminist, you have done nothing to clear up that vagueness. You pointed to an image problem that feminism suffers from, do you not think, for one second, that the vagueness of the definition is the problem, if so how could you have any issue with people like me and a lot of other posters in this thread who are obviously confused by the vagueness of the definition. Do you think that you are capable of redefining the meaning of feminism to suit yourself?
Brian? wrote: » You’re redefining the meaning of feminism to suit yourself. The definition is fairly clear.
Silentcorner wrote: » You are aware that women have a head start when it comes to opportunities in life. The education system across the west benefits females affording them better opportunities and career options. Don't get me wrong, I believe men are well capable of toxic behaviour, but women are just as capable, I can't see how this wave of feminism is not yet considered toxic? Is feminism capable of toxic group think? I get a little annoyed over the use of the term "equality", when it seems to be just "equality" for a particular class or demographic of women? It seems to be driven by the educated class of women who don't give a monkeys about women outside of that class/demographic.
DickSwiveller Returns wrote: » I'm not a feminist, just like i'm not a masculinist. I don't believe in advocating so-called rights for one group at the expense of another. You and your family are perfectly decent i'm sure but mainstream feminism is ugly and divisive, particularly towards white males like me.
Brian? wrote: » Equality of opportunity
Silentcorner wrote: » That's actually quiet vague. Equality of opportunity or Equality of outcome? Equality is a lovely term, if I were a communist I'd be using this word as often as I can.
The_Kew_Tour wrote: » You're right actually.
However I would not associate with any side it would cause so many to read into it different.
From what I have seen and read from Blind boy though is that Men should be Feminist(which is fine) but it comes with the Guilt trip. That's my take from Blindboy.
johnnyskeleton wrote: » According to this study, 86% of men in the U.K. want equality but only 4% identify as feminists. Women, curiously, are less likely to want equality with only 76% advocating for equality, but 9% claiming to be feminists:https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/only-7-per-cent-of-britons-consider-themselves-feminists/ Less extreme difference in the USA, but still 85% equality 19% feminist:http://thelala.com/believe-womens-equality-identify-as-feminist/ Maybe feminism just has an image problem that people haven't heard or don't believe that it's really all about equality.
Sweetemotion wrote: » How come you are allowed to file words as "nonsence definitions" you don't like in the "really doesn't matter bin" And then deny people the right to put your nonsense definitions in their bin? Pompous, is the word I connect with that attitude.
Brian? wrote: » feminism ˈfɛmɪnɪz(ə) noun the advocacy of women's rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes. Nothing more. Nothing less. Don’t understand all the anger.
The_Kew_Tour wrote: » Thankfully you don't have to be a Feminist and you can still respect every Woman's rights and insure Equality for everyone
Sal Butamol wrote: » Don't give me the credit, just look in the mirror and take a bow. I couldn't come up with anything funnier than your own self-description above.
DickSwiveller Returns wrote: » Would you call yourself a masculinist too? Feminism is by it's nature and definition in opposition to men. You need to stop calling yourself one.
Brian? wrote: » You really know how to cut me. Kudos.
Brian? wrote: » No. What I’m trying to say is that mainstream feminists are people like myself, my family and my friends. There are fringe feminists who aren’t. Just like there are religious zealots, radical left and right people. Stop generalising based on a fringe element.
Sal Butamol wrote: » Lol
Brian? wrote: » What % of feminists are man-hating harridans? I’m a feminist. My wife is a feminist. All of my female friends are feminist. The vast majority of my male friends are feminist. My mother is a feminist. My sister is a feminist. My Da is a feminist. None of them hate men. Some of them may be harridans.
DickSwiveller Returns wrote: » Absolutely. The gob****e has a platform and he shouldn't be telling men to embrace a movement full of man-hating harridans.
optogirl wrote: » wow this is getting tedious. He really pis*ed you off with that one didn't he.
