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Tommy Robinson jailed

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Apparently according to Lauren Southern, Tommy has been sentenced to 13 months but there is a UK wide embargo on reporting.

Anyone else got any info?

Edit. Not too sure about the authenticity of the embargo. I'm assuming that it's for this https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/tommy-robinson-arrested-leeds-court-child-grooming-trial-edl-founder-latest-a8368821.html?amp

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[Deleted User]

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Do you not see what you're at yourself, labelling anyone that despises the paedophile loving convicted fraudster as part of the 'left'?

I'm not shaming anyone into anything. I'm not getting het up over someone else thinking I may or may not be a Yaxley Lennon supporter. You don't have to tell me that nothing is ever black or white.

Why are the self proclaimed 'right' so insecure about what others think of them?

I'm not on the "right" but I do find myself drifting ever further away from the left thanks to all or nothing types.

[Deleted User]

TomSweeney wrote: »

If Tommy Robinson is such a racist why doesn't he speak out against Sikhs ?

They're not a race. Neither are Muslims but there ya have it.

The_Kew_Tour

Robinson scumbag behaviour in past is why so many hate him.

It's hard to defend a man who broken law so many times

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The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Robinson scumbag behaviour in past is why so many hate him.

It's hard to defend a man who broken law so many times

He is a scrote. Not denying that. Still has some points. That's not defending the man, as such.

The_Kew_Tour

Omackeral wrote: »

He is a scrote. Not denying that. Still has some points. That's not defending the man, as such.

I do too to a degree but I just don't feel sympathy when he preaches something and then on other hand breaks the law in other ways.

ohnonotgmail

Omackeral wrote: »

I'm not on the "right" but I do find myself drifting ever further away from the left thanks to all or nothing types.

LOL

FTA69

I don't think criticising Islam or even Muslims is racist per se, but it can very much overlap with racism and xenophobia too. That having been said, blanketly portraying all Muslims as being inherently dangerous, or disloyal or as Robinson said about people in a residential area - "enemy combatants" - is bigoted and it's a form of scapegoating. Especially when it's tied into a wider pan-European far right that's also holds those views toward people like trade unionists, immigrants, Africans etc etc.

As I've said in this thread a million times, you aren't going to find videos of Robinson calling people n*ggers and the like but you will find that he has either been in or been extremely close to and allied to organisations that are unashamedly and explicitly racist in their politics. Over a 14 year period he has been a member of the EDL, the BNP, the BFP which has espoused or contained people with extreme racist politics and is also great mates with Generation Identity who are proper biological blood and soil racists. I saw them last Saturday, being clapped and cheered as they marched.

So is Robinson a neo-Nazi? No he isn't. But is he someone on the European far right pushing an ultra-nationalist, bigoted and exclusionary type of politics based on scapegoating? Yes he is. This isn't solely about anger over terrorists and paedos here.

Billy86

Omackeral wrote: »

I'm not on the "right" but I do find myself drifting ever further away from the left thanks to all or nothing types.

Sorry but that excuse is utter tripe when you've got the likes of Tommy Robinson and his EDL buddies, Le Pen and the whole identitiarian movement that most modern right wing politics are based on, the outright proud neo Nazism of the alt-right and the fascist cult that is Trumpism on the other end.

If you're going to try and paint sides by their furthest elements, then that is what represents 'the right'.

The Legend Of Kira

This is a recently written opinion article about political correctness & populism , its accessment about Tommy Robinson is spot on.

" The largest abuse of British girls in modern history; cowardice prevailed over human rights, political correctness over reasoned discourse. The similarities of censorship and fear with the Soviet era are alarming to those acquainted with this part of twentieth-century history. In an environment of fear and retribution, the most heinous crimes will be ignored and the most intolerant acts will be tolerated.

In the case of this particular scandal, anti-Islam activist Tommy Robinson has filled the void. You can learn more about Tommy’s story from his speech at the Oxford Union. This working-class lad from Luton in the United Kingdom has over 900,000 Facebook followers. This is more than the British Prime Minister, Theresa May. He is currently serving a 13-month prison sentence for being in contempt of court. He pleaded guilty to filming outside court during a grooming gang trial, while already on a suspended sentence for the same offence.

Tommy founded the English Defence League (EDL) street-protest movement in 2009, leaving the organisation in 2013. These days he creates and distributes videos and social media posts that he believes expose the dangers of Islamisation in Britain. His particular focus from the beginning of the EDL up to the present day has been grooming gangs. Some say his content suggests all Muslims engage in this behaviour and is therefore extremely divisive. Others say he is quite simply a racist, a fascist, Islamophobic or alt-Right.

Whatever you deem him to be, I’ll leave to your personal judgement. However, the issue at hand here is, why has Tommy Robinson become so popular? Why does he have a larger social media following than the British Prime Minister? Like many populists, he has been willing to talk about a deeply controversial issue that traditional mainstream outlets plainly refuse to talk about. He’s not the only populist to surge in popularity in this manner. He’s certainly not the first, and certainly won’t be the last.

It’s surreal to witness a panel of social commentators sitting around a table trying to ascertain why these movements grow, looking dumbfounded, all the while abiding by the tacit rule that the issues enabling these movements to grow in the first place cannot be spoken of. In the case of Tommy Robinson, it is pre-eminently the grooming gang epidemic. As has been made clear in this article, the intricacies of the grooming gang scandal simply cannot be spoken of, unless you wish to end up at the jobcentre the next day."

https://kieronattenborough.com/2018/07/18/populism-if-filling-the-void-created-by-political-correctness/

ricero

Tommy is a free man this morning !

The_Kew_Tour

Not really surprised if honest

super_furry

Still a gob****e though.

The Backwards Man

Stephen Yaxley Lennon is a convicted fraudster and a documented defender of paedophiles released on bail pending a retrial this morning.

Tipsy McSwagger

ricero wrote: »

Tommy is a free man this morning !

Great news

Grayson

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

Great news

Not really. He repeatedly broke the law. He should be in jail.

TheValeyard

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Stephen Yaxley Lennon is a convicted fraudster and a documented defender of paedophiles released on bail pending a retrial this morning.

That be a great way to introduce him at meetings or formal functions

The_Kew_Tour

He changed his name cause 'it sounded too Irish'

AllForIt

super_furry wrote: »

Still a gob****e though.

Someone sounds like they are really pissed off right now.

Good.

ohnonotgmail

He is only out on bail. He will be back inside after his retrial.

super_furry

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

He is only out on bail. He will be back inside after his retrial.

That’s optimistic. I’d have money on him pulling another stupid publicity stunt before then so he can play the martyr again.

ohnonotgmail

super_furry wrote: »

That’s optimistic. I’d have money on him pulling another stupid publicity stunt before then so he can play the martyr again.

His recent stint of porridge might have chastened him. We can only hope.

PlaneSpeeking

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Stephen Yaxley Lennon is a convicted fraudster and a documented defender of paedophiles released on bail pending a retrial this morning.

No, that would be the UK police, social workers, Labour MPs who wanted the victims to keep quiet for "diversity" reasons and Lily f***ing Allen who said "they'd have been raped anyway".

Taytoland

Broke the law but clearly the trial process was flawed as the judge has said today. So hopefully this gets sorted soon and Islamism can be exposed again.

The Backwards Man

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

No, that would be the UK police, social workers, Labour MPs who wanted the victims to keep quiet for "diversity" reasons and Lily f***ing Allen who said "they'd have been raped anyway".

This is a thread on Tommy Robinson™.
Tommy Robinson™ is on record defending paedophiles. He has also knowingly endangered the conviction of paedophiles. There's plenty of threads for what you are shoehorning in here, but we are discussing Tommy™ here.

RWCNT

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

No, that would be the UK police, social workers, Labour MPs who wanted the victims to keep quiet for "diversity" reasons and Lily f***ing Allen who said "they'd have been raped anyway".

You could call them defenders of pedophiles, yes, but Backwards man is factually correct here. Tommy was vocally supportive of EDL member Richard Price following his conviction for possession of child pornography. In fairness, he did backtrack on this later on, condemning his actions and stating that Price had never been a leading figure in the EDL. This came across to a lot of people as bull**** though as old facebook posts re-surfaced later where Tommy named Mr Price as a member of EDL management and crediting him as co-founder of the group.

Stephen15

ricero wrote: »

Tommy is a free man this morning !

Great news hopefully he wins his re trial now and sues for wrongful arrest and imprisonment

RWCNT

Stephen15 wrote: »

Great news hopefully he wins his re trial now and sues for wrongful arrest and imprisonment

I don't necessarily judge people for being supporters of Robinson, but jesus christ, a lot of you don't half live in a dream-world.

PlaneSpeeking

Stephen15 wrote: »

Great news hopefully he wins his re trial now and sues for wrongful arrest and imprisonment

Wouldn't go that far but there has been too much sweeping under the carpet of the grooming, assault, rape and murder* of these girls.

If it takes someone going to jail to try to get through to sceptics and do-gooders the sheer size of the problem, good on them.

* link before the disbelieving starts:

https://metro.co.uk/2018/03/13/dad-murdered-child-sex-victim-threatened-speaking-grooming-7382782/

Killing his child and then threatening him. Yeah, lovely people. But to some on here contempt of court and FB live streaming is worse. Have a word eh ?

Billy86

RWCNT wrote: »

I don't necessarily judge people for being supporters of Robinson, but jesus christ, a lot of you don't half live in a dream-world.

Welcome to the "modern right", where facts are not only irrelevant, but also the enemy.

TomSweeney

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leeds-45029755

First words from the BBC - "Far right activist", so they are allready lying.
Pathetic.