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NBP: National Broadband Plan Announced

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They've published!

The government has published a new map outlining in detail 700,000 rural homes and businesses which will be connected to state-subsidised broadband of at least 30 megabits per second (Mbs) from 2016.

http://www.independent.ie/business/technology/news/revealed-700000-homes-and-businesses-to-get-subsidised-fast-broadband-in-new-plan-30769126.html

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ED E

The ministers are just signatures here.

I want to know how many of the DECNR staff currently in place were there back in 2006 are still there today (job for life remember!) then decentralize the lot of them to the department of ass scratching in Ballyshannon or somewhere equally remote.

westyIrl

Alter-Ego wrote: »

Interesting thread on the minister and his involvement with ENET: https://twitter.com/gavinsblog/status/1024320964027449345

Everyone should take a bit of time to read this. Absolutely ridiculously baffling stuff.

Arbitrary 10 year contract extensions without going to tender and using "providing market stability" as the reason just completely takes the biscuit.

Doesn't give much hope for any of us thinking that much information will come about after the tender process is complete. Hopefully the higher level of focus on the NBP will create a gentle flood on the FOI requests front.

Jim

Johnboy1951

Alter-Ego wrote: »

Interesting thread on the minister and his involvement with ENET: https://twitter.com/gavinsblog/status/1024320964027449345

A bit more than 'interesting' methinks ....

That 78% stake could well scupper the EU support of the NBP with Enet the only remaining bidder.

Gadgetman496

He was on Galway Bay FM this morning and according to himself everything is fine and on track, no problem...

KOR101

Alter-Ego wrote: »

Interesting thread on the minister and his involvement with ENET: https://twitter.com/gavinsblog/status/1024320964027449345

Yes, engrossing.

Ardent

No wonder Enet are not pulling out of the NBP, despite their consortium falling apart. They have a nice cosy and long-standing relationship with the Department.

Ardent

Alter-Ego wrote: »

Interesting thread on the minister and his involvement with ENET: https://twitter.com/gavinsblog/status/1024320964027449345

My blood is boiling after reading all that! Buying assets we already owned....EU and Irish tax payer money heading abroad to US investors... appealing High Court support for FOI requests....arbitrarily extending contract expiry dates. The whole thing is rotten to the core.

Gooser14

Hitman3000 wrote:

Anyone know where Naughten is? He's very quiet.

He was interviewed live on the RTE Drivetime radio show yesterday afternoon. Usual waffle.

Hitman3000

Marlow wrote:

He probably got visited by a hitman.

Good one. Although hiding seems to be a trait in the present government when things go t*ts up.

Marlow

Hitman3000 wrote: »

Anyone know where Naughten is? He's very quiet.

He probably got visited by a hitman.

/M

Hitman3000

Anyone know where Naughten is? He's very quiet.

Alter-Ego

Interesting thread on the minister and his involvement with ENET: https://twitter.com/gavinsblog/status/1024320964027449345

ArrBee

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

Not IMO.
The 300k were almost all in clusters close to exchanges and cabinets.
That number was probably the upper limit of what they could achieve in the time period, even if things had gone well (no delays due to weather disruption).

I have no doubt that if they got the opportunity to do the remaining 500k without anyone telling them how or when, they would - in their own time - do most of them.

In my area the late additions to the commercial rollout as part of the 300k couldn't be described as clustered close to exchange or cabinet. especially when you consider number and location of houses that have been missed.

Ultimanemo

Marlow wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/business/farming/rural-life/farming-news/115000-country-homes-lose-out-on-broadband-as-companies-split-37170624.html

Quite a few more articles on the issues caused by the split today.

/M

That is in Naughten constituency, probably it reduces his chances in the next election, unless he changes his eircode to 300K area.

Marlow

fritzelly wrote: »

If they cannot fulfill a small subset of Ireland then questions should be asked how can you even do the NBP and why are we even talking about you still "pretending" you can do it

The answer is: "not".

/M

fritzelly

Marlow wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/business/farming/rural-life/farming-news/115000-country-homes-lose-out-on-broadband-as-companies-split-37170624.html

Quite a few more articles on the issues caused by the split today.

/M

If they cannot fulfill a small subset of Ireland then questions should be asked how can you even do the NBP and why are we even talking about you still "pretending" you can do it

Marlow

https://www.independent.ie/business/farming/rural-life/farming-news/115000-country-homes-lose-out-on-broadband-as-companies-split-37170624.html

Quite a few more articles on the issues caused by the split today.

/M

Marlow

Gonzo wrote: »

I reckon if it wasn't for Siro, I'd still be sitting here rocking an 8 meg ADSL connection and pulling my hair out with PS4 game patches on pause since 2015.

I had given up all hope of ever having a decent connection until the Eir 300k announcement.

Virgins upgrades to 240 and 360 Mbit/s, then SIRO starting to roll out, definatly threatened Eircom massively.

Competition is healthy.

And SIROs current Gbit/s incentive may hopefully help driving other wholesale prices down, too. Here's hoping anyhow.

/M

Gonzo

KOR101 wrote: »

They were scared sh**less of the ESB. Enet they can probably handle.

I reckon if it wasn't for Siro, I'd still be sitting here rocking an 8 meg ADSL connection and pulling my hair out with PS4 game patches on pause since 2015.

I had given up all hope of ever having a decent connection until the Eir 300k announcement.

KOR101

roddy15 wrote: »

I don't think it was that it was a "bad investment" or else they wouldn't have pulled the "we'll do 300k" move to help make it more difficult for the other bidders. It sounded more like the contract itself was too bureaucratic and a mess to actually deal with not that the actual investment was a bad idea financially.

They were scared sh**less of the ESB. Enet they can probably handle.

westyIrl

Siena Gigantic Backyard wrote: »

Rumours on Twitter that his time is up in the Ministry.

Everything was fine until it wasn't....or was it?

If true, doesn't bode well for shovels. Hopefully not a fallguy for some TBA NBP collapse aka "review".

tsue921i8wljb3

9726_9726 wrote: »

Three days before the Minister spoke.... and of course he come out with "tis all grand".

Rumours on Twitter that his time is up in the Ministry.

tsue921i8wljb3

9726_9726 wrote: »

If Eir *really* wanted to put the boot in...

announce another 150,000 of the next sweetest buildings, either before or after the tender!

If only they were not behind on their current commitment. Although the mere threat of such an announcement could have been a concern for parties like SSE and SIRO leading to their withdrawal. The Government would be powerless to counteract it.

9726_9726

The high horse brigade wrote: »

irishfeen wrote: »

What is Denis Naughten saying on radio 1? cant listen right now

Nothing to see here, everything is fine. He's a spoofer

Three days before the Minister spoke.... and of course he come out with "tis all grand".

9726_9726

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

ArrBee wrote: »

I don't get this ^

The ROI of the extra 300k is surely similar to the ROI on a large portion of the 500k.
It makes no sense to me that they would invest in the 300k yet somehow all of the remainder isnt good business?

Not IMO.
The 300k were almost all in clusters close to exchanges and cabinets.
That number was probably the upper limit of what they could achieve in the time period, even if things had gone well (no delays due to weather disruption).

I have no doubt that if they got the opportunity to do the remaining 500k without anyone telling them how or when, they would - in their own time - do most of them.

If Eir *really* wanted to put the boot in...

announce another 150,000 of the next sweetest buildings, either before or after the tender!

irishfeen

The high horse brigade wrote: »

Nothing to see here, everything is fine. He's a spoofer

:rolleyes:

The high horse brigade

irishfeen wrote: »

What is Denis Naughten saying on radio 1? cant listen right now

Nothing to see here, everything is fine. He's a spoofer

Johnboy1951

irishfeen wrote: »

What is Denis Naughten saying on radio 1? cant listen right now

Still waiting for formal letter from Enet about the structure of the 'consortium' bidding.

Other than that all is as it was .....

irishfeen

What is Denis Naughten saying on radio 1? cant listen right now

Johnboy1951

ArrBee wrote: »

I don't get this ^

The ROI of the extra 300k is surely similar to the ROI on a large portion of the 500k.
It makes no sense to me that they would invest in the 300k yet somehow all of the remainder isnt good business?

Not IMO.
The 300k were almost all in clusters close to exchanges and cabinets.
That number was probably the upper limit of what they could achieve in the time period, even if things had gone well (no delays due to weather disruption).

I have no doubt that if they got the opportunity to do the remaining 500k without anyone telling them how or when, they would - in their own time - do most of them.