rameire wrote: » unfortunately its not just a couple of layers of tarmac as you question. the next stages once all cabline and pipework is complete will be laying hardcore to raise the level of the base to then be able to lay 3 to 4 layers of tarmac. Then the next stage will be to move a lane of traffic onto the new layer. or possibly what they may do is move the two eastbound lanes onto the new two lanes created then scrape away the hard shoulder and the lane 1 from the eastbound carriageway. relay the tarmac 3 or four layers to being it up to the new layer of the new lanes. then move the eastbound back onto the new hard shoulder and lane1. then move the westbound hard shoulder and lane 1 onto the new two middle lanes, scrape the tarmac for the old lanes, lay new tarmac to the new level. then, move the lanes back to the hardshoulder and lane 1. Once all the above is done then they will lay the central median barrier. line the road. then open the new lanes. bish bash bosh.
benny79 wrote: » Do Politicians not go on radio & TV and lie all the time?? The so called leaders of our Country! So your trying to tell me a project manager cant get it wrong? Just a couple of layers of tarmac you say? Well I suggest you take a look the next time your passing as I drive that road twice a day and have done so the last 15 years and its far from a couple of layers of tarmac. There is still pipe to be laid unless these are leftover, there's still big pits or holes, steel is still sticking up, which I say is for support for something so concrete will have to be poured over them and there's roughly a 2 ft drop from the level of the road for most the stretch of the works. Now maybe you have more experience than me, which is fair enough. Hence why I said I hope I'm wrong... As I'm just giving my opinion as a lay man
CeilingFly wrote: » So the project manager give a verbal update on public radio giving full details and timeline and you don't believe it???? Why would a very experienced project manager go on national radio and tell a lie? The works from jct 10 - 9 are almost finished. Putting a couple of top layers of tarmac is the quickest part of the work. That was a 9km section. Work started in late Jan / early February. Its near finished now, 6 months later. The remaining section is half that size and work starts in 2 weeks. Even the lay person can easily see that the road will open by next March (8 months away) looking at current progress. But some people will always search for a negative in everything. :mad:
Redsoxfan wrote: » Oh... I thought it was all one project? Is the 3 lane upgrade separate to the bypass and new junctions? I took him to mean that everything would be open.
marno21 wrote: And the work will still be continuing in the two junctions and the Sallins bypass
benny79 wrote: » That be fine by me! but he said the 3 lanes be finished by March next year. Considering they haven't finished them from J9 to J10 and are only starting J10 to J11 I cant see it been finished by then. But I really hope Im wrong! To me the widening of the 3 lanes are a priority!
roadmaster wrote: » It just depends on what you describe as being finished. You could have all lanes open but work for months afterwords taking place on verges and sideroads
marno21 wrote: » When was the project manager on the radio?
CeilingFly wrote: » Yep, the project manager was on rte radio. Completion of three lanes both ways end March 2019 Move to new part of road in stages. October 2018 and Dec 2018 - this to allow current lanes to be resurfaced. So seems a lot better than envisaged. He also said there have been no delays.
NedNew2 wrote: » The contractor is aiming to have the mainline works completed by March 2019.http://www.m7upgrade.com/ Very heavy traffic and delays over the weekend due to the extended 60 km/h zone.
marno21 wrote: » 60km/h speed limit to be extended to J11 M9 from 6am Saturday as per AA Roadwatch The M7 will be busier than normal this weeksnd with Clare, Limerick and Cork all playing in Croke Park this weekend
CeilingFly wrote: » There are approximately 30,000 "movements" a day on that section. The works started 200 days ago. That's circa 6 MILLION movements 230ish out of 6 Million Put it another way, how many people do you know that got 5 numbers in the lottery in the last 2 months - same odds. Keep reasonable speed for the conditions pertaining at the time you are driving and you'll be fine.
WhatsGoingOn2 wrote: » I heard from someone that works on the site that they are approx 10 weeks behind schedule
CeilingFly wrote: » sea12 wrote: » Ceeling fly I don't know if you work directly for the company building the project or are part of the design team. You seem to take any criticism of the project very personal. Beny79 is just putting across the views of 100's is us commuters who are frustrated st the slow build of a fairly straight forward project. It is extremely frustrating to see finishing up at 5 pm when they could have two shifts on now during summer to quicken the pace. That road is pure carnage outside of summer months and anything to help reduce that should have been done Absolutely no connection whatsoever. I've no formal training in engineering either and zero experience of driving machinery. But I don't pretend to and I don't make unsubstantiated comments about the works or whine about something I haven't a clue about You say its frustrating seeing them finish at 5pm - but are you driving by at 6am watching them start work? I guess not. A two shift system sounds idyllic, but you need two full teams and then hope both teams are on the same page (same with any project - not just roads) And they do work nights when the job requires additional lane closures so that there are two lanes open from 6am to 10pm each day which minimises obstruction to motorists. But those making sweeping whines without any knowledge whatsoever deserve to be called out. Whereas those asking questions without making assumptions seem to get their questions answered As for being on time, they are ahead of schedule if a person in Kerry group is to be believed.
sea12 wrote: » Ceeling fly I don't know if you work directly for the company building the project or are part of the design team. You seem to take any criticism of the project very personal. Beny79 is just putting across the views of 100's is us commuters who are frustrated st the slow build of a fairly straight forward project. It is extremely frustrating to see finishing up at 5 pm when they could have two shifts on now during summer to quicken the pace. That road is pure carnage outside of summer months and anything to help reduce that should have been done
sea12 wrote: » I accept that but that is down to heath and safety standards not the ptincipal of working two shifts which is what I'm advocating should be done on the naas road
CeilingFly wrote: » Poster was incorrect. The real figure is "hundreds" not just a few dozen. In excess of 400 deaths on the construction of the airport.
sea12 wrote: » "With probably dozens killed there" Do you know that for a fact or just lazy assumptions. No reason you can't have two shifts working in Ireland and still keep all Health and safety regulations required.
JohnC. wrote: » Istanbul airport probably isn't the best example, with probably dozens killed there. It's easy to power through stuff when you ignore little details like safety.