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Cork GAA Discussion Thread

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Amprodude wrote: »

I should have known as I was at that game that day. Galway were flying that day.

If you told me that day that in three years time we'd have won two Munster finals in a row and nearly made it to an all Ireland final I'd have laughed in your face. We've come a long way since 2015/16.

Amprodude

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Your point was still very valid and true.

But just wanted make it look little less painful:pac:

I should have known as I was at that game that day. Galway were flying that day.

The_Kew_Tour

Amprodude wrote: »

You are correct in that. Apologies.

Your point was still very valid and true.

But just wanted make it look little less painful:pac:

Amprodude

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

2015? I think Galway bet us in Qualifiers (open for correction)

You are correct in that. Apologies.

GeordieRebel

Pa O’Callaghan comes up with Cork fans every year when we’re knocked out and then again at the start of every season for the last 3 or 4 years now. It’s surely time to realise he just has no interest, for whatever reason. I don’t think we should go above and beyond to chase someone who clearly doesn’t want to play, even if he would fit in well to that half forward line. And that’s not taking a shot at him. If he doesn’t want to play then more power to him for sticking with Ballyhea.

The_Kew_Tour

Sprinter Sacre wrote: »

Pa O Callaghan is a frustrating one. Consistently one of the best club hurlers in the county with a few years now and shone as a minor and at 21 for Cork but just doesn't seem to want to play intercounty senior. Now of course he has his reasons and he's entitled to do what he likes but it is a crying shame a man of his ability is not willing to play for the county.

Is it personal reasons or more gripe with management/board?

rebelyell99

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Have we any decent Full backs coming up?

Sean o leary hayes might be an option in the future or maybe David Griffin

Sprinter Sacre

rebelyell99 wrote: »

What Cork need is a few physical ball winning forwards.Deccie Dalton fits the bill he is a tough cookie and good striker of a ball.I think a big effort should be made to get pa o Callaghan on board he is the type of player who could push cork over the line.

Pa O Callaghan is a frustrating one. Consistently one of the best club hurlers in the county with a few years now and shone as a minor and at 21 for Cork but just doesn't seem to want to play intercounty senior. Now of course he has his reasons and he's entitled to do what he likes but it is a crying shame a man of his ability is not willing to play for the county.

pajoguy

richiepurgas wrote: »

Sully is a hypocrite and probably has an axe to grind with current set-up.
After having a go at supporters who were critical of the team, he has a go himself on Paddy Power's web-site which employs him.

I thought the exact same thing myself. He might say his beef was with management and the lads he heard may have been slating players but yeah it seemed a bit soon to be laying into management. The quality on the benches were the difference more than the timing of the subs.

The_Kew_Tour

Have we any decent Full backs coming up?

The_Kew_Tour

Amprodude wrote: »

Cork are bottlers at semi final stage. the record speaks for itself. 2008, 2010, 2012, 2014, 2015, 2017, 2018 all semi final losses. we cant win them all but we cant lose them all either. Not good enough for Cork for a county with a big hurling tradition. A big thing should be to find a few good forwards and a full back and we might get closer to going past semi final stage.

2015? I think Galway bet us in Qualifiers (open for correction)

rebelyell99

What Cork need is a few physical ball winning forwards.Deccie Dalton fits the bill he is a tough cookie and good striker of a ball.I think a big effort should be made to get pa o Callaghan on board he is the type of player who could push cork over the line.

Amprodude

Cork are bottlers at semi final stage. the record speaks for itself. 2008, 2010, 2012, 2014, 2015, 2017, 2018 all semi final losses. we cant win them all but we cant lose them all either. Not good enough for Cork for a county with a big hurling tradition. A big thing should be to find a few good forwards and a full back and we might get closer to going past semi final stage.

richiepurgas

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Diarmuid O’Sullivan says disgruntled Cork hurling fans were 'an absolute disgrace'

Cork legend Diarmuid ‘The Rock’ O’Sullivan has hit out at the county's 'fickle' fans after yesterday's All-Ireland semi-final defeat by Limerick.

The GAA star said he confronted some fans directly after the match.

"Unfortunately, that's the way Cork supporters are and I've said it before, they're very fickle," he told Paddy Power News.

"But this 'bottler' thing disgusts me. If you are loyal to your team, you are loyal to your team - but again I'm not surprised.

I was walking out of the stadium after, there was two Cork lads there and they were having a right go. I actually had murder with them and I looked the two of them in the eye and told them they were an absolute disgrace. There's no place for it, but that's the world we live in. You can't get away from it.

Pity about some fans alright but it's easy to see why some fans would label what happened as 'bottling' it

That is harsh on the team but I really hope they learn the lesson and find ways of closing the game out should we ever get near that situation again

The Rock does make a good point about making subs breaking momentum, lack of impact from the bench and that Cork need primary ball winners. You can't keep flogging the same horses like [Seamus] Harnedy and [Conor] Lehane. Cork have to find someone to alleviate the pressure on Seamus.

Sully is a hypocrite and probably has an axe to grind with current set-up.
After having a go at supporters who were critical of the team, he has a go himself on Paddy Power's web-site which employs him.

KrustyUCC

Our players are now used to losing close games or else games where we were comfortably up

You look at this year we were leading against Tipp and Limerick twice going into stoppage time and we only got 3 draws out of the games

partyguinness

Mokuba wrote: »

What else could you call it only bottling?

Cork have now lost 6 of their last 7 semi finals and the only team they have defeated in Croke Park in the last decade is Dublin.

The fact is that other counties see Cork as a soft touch come Semi Final stage. Maybe that's a mental thing, maybe too much energy/effort is being spent in Munster, maybe other sides are conditioned to peak later the year.

It's a strange one because up to 10-12 years ago it was the opposite. You would always expect Cork hurlers to pull through the tight games and to pull it out of the fire with absolute confidence in their own ability.

Admittedly that was my first time seeing them this year but they looked absolutely knackered at the end and in extra time. They had nothing left whereas Limerick smelt blood and kicked on.

Mokuba

What else could you call it only bottling?

Cork have now lost 6 of their last 7 semi finals and the only team they have defeated in Croke Park in the last decade is Dublin.

The fact is that other counties see Cork as a soft touch come Semi Final stage. Maybe that's a mental thing, maybe too much energy/effort is being spent in Munster, maybe other sides are conditioned to peak later the year.

Shedite27

KrustyUCC wrote: »

....."Unfortunately, that's the way Cork supporters are and I've said it before, they're very fickle," he told Paddy Power News.

KrustyUCC

You would back down fairly quickly from that encounter alright

partyguinness

KrustyUCC wrote: »

I was walking out of the stadium after, there was two Cork lads there and they were having a right go. I actually had murder with them and I looked the two of them in the eye and told them they were an absolute disgrace. There's no place for it, but that's the world we live in. You can't get away from it.

Jaysus I imagine those boys are curled up in a dark room after that encounter...

KrustyUCC

Diarmuid O’Sullivan says disgruntled Cork hurling fans were 'an absolute disgrace'

Cork legend Diarmuid ‘The Rock’ O’Sullivan has hit out at the county's 'fickle' fans after yesterday's All-Ireland semi-final defeat by Limerick.

The GAA star said he confronted some fans directly after the match.

"Unfortunately, that's the way Cork supporters are and I've said it before, they're very fickle," he told Paddy Power News.

"But this 'bottler' thing disgusts me. If you are loyal to your team, you are loyal to your team - but again I'm not surprised.

I was walking out of the stadium after, there was two Cork lads there and they were having a right go. I actually had murder with them and I looked the two of them in the eye and told them they were an absolute disgrace. There's no place for it, but that's the world we live in. You can't get away from it.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/diarmuid-osullivan-says-disgruntled-cork-hurling-fans-were-an-absolute-disgrace-858767.html

Pity about some fans alright but it's easy to see why some fans would label what happened as 'bottling' it

That is harsh on the team but I really hope they learn the lesson and find ways of closing the game out should we ever get near that situation again

The Rock does make a good point about making subs breaking momentum, lack of impact from the bench and that Cork need primary ball winners. You can't keep flogging the same horses like [Seamus] Harnedy and [Conor] Lehane. Cork have to find someone to alleviate the pressure on Seamus.

KrustyUCC

That comes from the majority of our players not being to win the ball from either puck out

It's an issue for years and something we haven't really addressed

There is room in the team for somebody who may not be the best hurler who won't score 4-5 pt a game but will win primary possession or stop the opposition winning the ball

Hannon won't have such an armchair ride in the final

partyguinness

It was noticeable at the start of ET how much more tired the Cork team was compared to Limerick. Little things not falling their way and Limerick hooked the ball 2-3 times in quick enough succession- sure sign that one team is that bit sharper.

Not sure how much was to do with fitness levels from Cork or the long break since the last game.

Now credit to Limerick for upping and maintaining the intensity for the entire 90mins.

But Jesus someone needs to drill home to Cork that just because you score you do not have to let the opposition down the pitch score straight away-very generous.

Kevin Keegan School of hurling- 'We will just outscore the other side.'

Amprodude

The lack of a bench cost us yesterday. if we could have brought on 2 scoring forwards to tap over a few points we would have Limerick beaten.

The_Kew_Tour

If the U21s can win AI I think that will be step in right direction.

We need the young lads to start getting that winning feeling.

It be good year if they claim it.

We are a Centre and Full Back away from a AI. We ain't that far away at all but that and a better bench we take beating for next 5 or 6 yesrs

Amprodude

Sprinter Sacre wrote: »

Lot of positives to come out from this year.

Hard to see them on a Monday morning after losing the semi final in the fashion that we did but hope we get there in years to come. It's seems so far away right now.

Zoncolon

boccy23 wrote: »

I think very little is being made of the foul on Daniel Kearney for Limerick's first goal by Cian Lynch. I feel this was a real turning point in the game.
At that stage we were 2 points up. Limerick had only 2 functioning forwards (Herrity and Mulcahy) and were struggling to stay in the game. We were heading in to half time 2 points up and would be playing into the scoring goal for the second half.
Then the foul wasn't given. He followed up by picking the ball of the ground or trying to as he knew he had fouled Kearney and expected the free to be given.
And it was Lynch who couldn't be tracked by Kearney, having pushed him, was left free for the goal.
Total miss by the referee on two occasions and a real full-up for them and a blow for us.

Agree totally. Was completely enraged by it. What was the lines doing, or not doing... This was a real turning point.
Is it me or do refs ref the Semi- Finals and Finals differently, "leaving it flow" is all well and good but that was such a blatant push... I mean we have no complaints about Ellis' push for their Peno so we should feel a little P*ssed about the Ref seeing the Kearny push differently...
Again different rules depending where on the pitch you are

Zoncolon

washman3 wrote: »

Rebel norrie wrote: »

Hate to name players but How did Hoggy stay on de pitch. HEARTLESS

Harsh comment in the extreme.:mad:
For me, as a Limerickman, Hoggy is up there with Gary Kirby and Ciaran Carey as the best players ever not to win an A.I. medal.
At least Hoggie has a few seasons left to achieve this and hopefully he will.

Its not Harsh, its the dumbest comment since full time

boccy23

I think very little is being made of the foul on Daniel Kearney for Limerick's first goal by Cian Lynch. I feel this was a real turning point in the game.
At that stage we were 2 points up. Limerick had only 2 functioning forwards (Herrity and Mulcahy) and were struggling to stay in the game. We were heading in to half time 2 points up and would be playing into the scoring goal for the second half.
Then the foul wasn't given. He followed up by picking the ball of the ground or trying to as he knew he had fouled Kearney and expected the free to be given.
And it was Lynch who couldn't be tracked by Kearney, having pushed him, was left free for the goal.
Total miss by the referee on two occasions and a real full-up for them and a blow for us.

boccy23

GeordieRebel wrote: »

Great post. We just need 3 or 4 lads to round out the panel a bit. Hopefully some of the U21s like Dalton, Billy Hennessey and Robert Downey are able to make a step and some of the lads currently on the panel like Tim O’Mahony can kick on in the winter. Daire Connery probably a couple years away too but looks a serious prospect.

Timmy needs to do something about his long loopy swing. Too easy at Intercounty level to be blocked down as he was yesterday. Needs to tighten it up.