CeilingFly wrote: » There are approximately 30,000 "movements" a day on that section. The works started 200 days ago. That's circa 6 MILLION movements 230ish out of 6 Million Put it another way, how many people do you know that got 5 numbers in the lottery in the last 2 months - same odds. Keep reasonable speed for the conditions pertaining at the time you are driving and you'll be fine.
marno21 wrote: » Have you got the 1995 traffic figures? With this in mind, there has been 237 caught out of approx 14 million journeys, probability of getting caught is 0.0000169, or 1 in every 59,071 vehicles is caught
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CeilingFly wrote: » And your experience of drainage systems and road engineering is???????? I just cannot understand the whining posts of some people - maybe ask for information of the drainage rather that do a whining post especially when you have zero experience in the field. There are plenty of experienced people on these threads, but they tend to respond to reasonable queries than a whine And you think that they can widen the road and then simply bolt on the two ne junctions later? Seriously?
sea12 wrote: » Ceeling fly I don't know if you work directly for the company building the project or are part of the design team. You seem to take any criticism of the project very personal
sea12 wrote: » Ceeling fly I don't know if you work directly for the company building the project or are part of the design team. You seem to take any criticism of the project very personal. Beny79 is just putting across the views of 100's is us commuters who are frustrated st the slow build of a fairly straight forward project. It is extremely frustrating to see finishing up at 5 pm when they could have two shifts on now during summer to quicken the pace. That road is pure carnage outside of summer months and anything to help reduce that should have been done
sea12 wrote: » You say its frustrating seeing them finish at 5pm - but are you driving by at 6am watching them start work? I guess not. well I pass by there at 6.30 three mornings s week and at 8am 2 mornings a week and no they don't be starting working at 6. Eight o clock is the starting time for the main workforce including digger drivers etc The point I am making is that they should be utilising all day light hours during summer even if it does cost more. It is one of the busiest and most important roads in the country. And there will be huge tail backs on this road again in September for another year. This time could be reduced
CeilingFly wrote: » So in winter they should only work 9am to 4pm? I'm working a stone's throw from them - I'm in the office at 6.30 many mornings. They are working on the new ramps, the car park beside Merlin is fairly full too and many are probably in daily meetings. Remember, no matter what the project, preparation is the key - even on a daily basis. Same in my business - a 15-20 daily meeting each day ensures a far more productive day than just going about the work. On a large project, you need a full team working together - extend the hours and you need two full teams. Then you need both teams to be working on the same page. Sounds easy. Its not, and the benefits probably are not there. Look at large private built projects. They also don't work two shifts and they want schemes finished as fast as possible. It simple does not make sense from either a management or logistical point of view. Maybe someone with project management experience of a large infrastructural project is here and can give more info.
sea12 wrote: » Still disagree with you. It's very common in lots of projects and even manufacturing where you have shift workers sometimes 3 shifts. All it takes is planning. i was in turkey recently where they are building the new airport in Istanbul. The level of activity, planning and progress they are making is incredible. And they don't won't 8-5.
CeilingFly wrote: » Manufacturing - yes as its mostly automated and you can have 2 /3 long term teams following a very set procedure. Some manufacturing is so automated that you need just a handful of people to be there (the entire Heinz bean manufacturing plant that works on a 24/7 basis and produces the worldwide production has less than 200 employees and many of them are specialised computer technicians). But large infrastructural projects it is far more difficult and quite rare. Very easy to find one project somewhere in the world, but just a quick look at an overall picture and you'll find it quite rare.
JohnC. wrote: » Istanbul airport probably isn't the best example, with probably dozens killed there. It's easy to power through stuff when you ignore little details like safety.
sea12 wrote: » "With probably dozens killed there" Do you know that for a fact or just lazy assumptions. No reason you can't have two shifts working in Ireland and still keep all Health and safety regulations required.
CeilingFly wrote: » Poster was incorrect. The real figure is "hundreds" not just a few dozen. In excess of 400 deaths on the construction of the airport.
sea12 wrote: » I accept that but that is down to heath and safety standards not the ptincipal of working two shifts which is what I'm advocating should be done on the naas road
CeilingFly wrote: » sea12 wrote: » Ceeling fly I don't know if you work directly for the company building the project or are part of the design team. You seem to take any criticism of the project very personal. Beny79 is just putting across the views of 100's is us commuters who are frustrated st the slow build of a fairly straight forward project. It is extremely frustrating to see finishing up at 5 pm when they could have two shifts on now during summer to quicken the pace. That road is pure carnage outside of summer months and anything to help reduce that should have been done Absolutely no connection whatsoever. I've no formal training in engineering either and zero experience of driving machinery. But I don't pretend to and I don't make unsubstantiated comments about the works or whine about something I haven't a clue about You say its frustrating seeing them finish at 5pm - but are you driving by at 6am watching them start work? I guess not. A two shift system sounds idyllic, but you need two full teams and then hope both teams are on the same page (same with any project - not just roads) And they do work nights when the job requires additional lane closures so that there are two lanes open from 6am to 10pm each day which minimises obstruction to motorists. But those making sweeping whines without any knowledge whatsoever deserve to be called out. Whereas those asking questions without making assumptions seem to get their questions answered As for being on time, they are ahead of schedule if a person in Kerry group is to be believed.
WhatsGoingOn2 wrote: » I heard from someone that works on the site that they are approx 10 weeks behind schedule
marno21 wrote: » 60km/h speed limit to be extended to J11 M9 from 6am Saturday as per AA Roadwatch The M7 will be busier than normal this weeksnd with Clare, Limerick and Cork all playing in Croke Park this weekend
NedNew2 wrote: » The contractor is aiming to have the mainline works completed by March 2019.http://www.m7upgrade.com/ Very heavy traffic and delays over the weekend due to the extended 60 km/h zone.
