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Is Ireland, to put it frankly, a kip?

Gunner Jay

Ireland is now a country where house prices soar while salaries go down. The are so many inequalities in Ireland it is unbelievable. With a mess of a health care system and a litany of scandals, when is enough enough? Six counties of Ireland are still owned by the Brits FFS.

Are you happy with the Ireland you live in today?

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Mr. teddywinkles

Mutant z wrote: »

No and i suggest to those who want to run this country down at every turn to go and live elsewhere this isn't the country for you.

As I agree with you it could be worse. It could also be a hell of a lot better. Comparing us to ****holes does not help.

Mr. teddywinkles

con___manx1 wrote: »

Ireland is an under populated country overall. im glad in a way there is a housing crisis. It will stop all the foreigners moving over.
Iv lived in 3 cities with huge populations and i just got sick of it.
I love in ireland the way you could go to a beach for example nd have the whole place to yourself.
People take stuff like that for granted.

Just say the Eu tells ireland you have to take 10000 refugees next week.

Irish governments responce is
No houses here sorry about that eu : )

I've thought this too lately. Conspiracy theory

mikeym

I could name 50 worst off countries to live in.

super_furry

Ireland's class.

You basically won the lottery of life before you even born by being Irish.

[Deleted User]

mikeym wrote: »

I could name 50 worst off countries to live in.

And you'd be less than a third of the way through naming all the countries that are worse to live in than Ireland.

keepalive213

Gunner Jay wrote: »

Ireland is now a country where house prices soar while salaries go down. The are so many inequalities in Ireland it is unbelievable. With a mess of a health care system and a litany of scandals, when is enough enough? Six counties of Ireland are still owned by the Brits FFS.

Are you happy with the Ireland you live in today?

Another "is ____ a kip" thread, how fantastic.

I think those sneaky Russians are behind them all, trying to stir us up to follow the dynamic Michael D. towards revolution..

Is that yourself Vladimir???

Westernyelp

Gunner Jay wrote:

Ireland is now a country where house prices soar while salaries go down. The are so many inequalities in Ireland it is unbelievable. With a mess of a health care system and a litany of scandals, when is enough enough? Six counties of Ireland are still owned by the Brits FFS.

This reads like the OP of a 16 year old who has never left the country

MayoSalmon

Eh it's grand...enjoy your life

zweton

How does it compare to Amsterdam?

Shenshen

Mr. teddywinkles wrote: »

As I agree with you it could be worse. It could also be a hell of a lot better. Comparing us to ****holes does not help.

Well, point us to a country that's better in most aspects, then.
So we can get a comparison, and maybe some ideas on what to improve and how.

Taytoland

Only visited Dublin and Donegal, so I can't answer for other parts but Dublin is.

dxhound2005

zweton wrote: »

How does it compare to Amsterdam?

Amsterdam's great crack. When the Irish are there.

Mr. teddywinkles

Shenshen wrote: »

Well, point us to a country that's better in most aspects, then.
So we can get a comparison, and maybe some ideas on what to improve and how.

Again comparision to third world helps. Immigration is high here why then. Due to perfection.

AfterLife

Taytoland wrote: »

Only visited Dublin and Donegal, so I can't answer for other parts but Dublin is.

What part of Dublin did you visit?

gctest50

super_furry wrote: »

Ireland's class.

You basically won the lottery of life before you even born by being Irish.

It's like having won the lottery then discovering you've HIV

Rodin

Mr. teddywinkles wrote: »

Yep cerviacal cancer check worked a charm there didn't it. Think before you write mate. so many fook ups from the hse it's in real and you come on here ****ing about look after own health. Granted no system is perfect

https://www.wcrf.org/int/cancer-facts-figures/link-between-lifestyle-cancer-risk/cancers-linked-being-overweight-or

Inform thyself.
Ireland in top 10 fattest nations in the world.
Obesity raises risk of 11 types of cancer.
We won't even talk about cardiovascular disease...

Hector Bellend

Ireland is a great country.

Not fault free of course but all things considered its not bad at all

gozunda

Rodin wrote: »

https://www.wcrf.org/int/cancer-facts-figures/link-between-lifestyle-cancer-risk/cancers-linked-being-overweight-or

Inform thyself.
Ireland in top 10 fattest nations in the world.
Obesity raises risk of 11 types of cancer.
We won't even talk about cardiovascular disease...

Eh? Is it really? According to this ranking Ireland isn't even in the top 50!

https://renewbariatrics.com/obesity-rank-by-countries/

Being a health freak or going back to nature doesn't give any guarantee that you won't develop cancer or heart disease.

Even poor old otzi the iceman was found to have had hardening of the arteries

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/02/120228123847.htm

Today a much larger number of people are living longer - meaning that your chances of developing cancer increases

Also everyone has to die of something eventually ...

Graces7

Valmont wrote: »

It's not a kip but nowhere near as good as people like to think it is. Irish people are loved around the world and a few decades ago we started to believe the hype and that our farts smelled lovely. The state can barely fix a pothole and the only thing they can be relied on for is to blow up the economy every ten years. And our national football team is rubbish.

They WERE. Now there are NO IRiSH signs up in the US....

Taxburden carrier

Graces7 wrote: »

They WERE. Now there are NO IRiSH signs up in the US....

There are NO ANYBODY signs up in the US!

[Deleted User]

I sometimes wonder about the people who complain about Ireland so much. Don't get me wrong... I did the same when I was younger. I thought other countries had to be so much better than what Ireland was, and in some cases, they were. But that was 30 years ago, and Ireland has changed considerably since then. The other major difference is that back then I hadn't lived abroad much. Oh I'd traveled on short hops/holidays to other countries but that only gives a shallow experience of other countries.

Since then, I've spent a lot more time in other countries. 8 Years in China. 1.5 years in Australia. 8 months in Japan. A few months in a variety of other countries living in a particular city as opposed to living on a holiday budget (pre-saved).

Ireland is a great country for those people who want this kind of living. It is a small country and hasn't developed along the lines of the larger nations. It doesn't have an impressive transportation network, and most things in this country are far more expensive than they should be. You pay quite a bit for the lifestyle you want but the same can be said for most countries. The tiny population is probably the biggest factor since that influences so much in terms of options.

I think it really comes down to what you want from life. I don't particularly want the type of lifestyle that Ireland offers, or the costs involved. And so, I'll go back to living abroad. But I do that, knowing the differences. I don't particularly enjoy the small town feel to everywhere in Ireland. Dublin doesn't impress me in the slightest, and the other cities are just large towns. Nor do I enjoy the weather or the attitudes to health. For all the claims to freedom, there are rather a wide range of regulation regarding what you can or cannot do here. (Yes, I'm a smoker, and paying so much bothers me)

Is Ireland a kip? Not even close to one. Obviously, anyone who says so, hasn't really lived abroad much. Their ideas of other places are sugar coated and they've missed out on the corruption, hassle, expense, etc of most other countries. In spite of the stupidity of Irish officials, Irish people have very little actual exposure to corruption from officials. Ireland is a very comfortable country for those who want this kind of life, or enjoy the Irish cultural trends.

If you're finding yourself unhappy living in Ireland, I'll suggest the normal answer. Leave. Get out. Get some bloody perspective. I know I won't live long-term in Ireland again. It's not the place for me. A great country but it doesn't ring my bells. I do prefer much larger populations, and the options that comes with that.

[Deleted User]

Wheeliebin30 wrote:

Do you think every country copes with flu season?

No they don't but we can't cope with the middle of summer in the our hospitals. I'm not sure what the answer is as it's been like this for decades under just about every party so I can't even point a finger in blame

Ger Roe

Sleeper12 wrote: »

At the same time we've come a long way. In the late 70s & early 80s there was a three year wait to get a Landline into your house. I remember people getting onto their local TD trying to speed things up.

Ah you've gotta love the Irish

I remember those days. We were living in the wilds of Dundrum, Co Dublin and it was a step too far to bring a phone line. My dad was in the army, serving in The Curragh (Kildare) and during the troubled times of the 70's there were times when he would be called back to base for security reasons. Despite requests from the Dept of Defence, the P&T couldn't get us a phone line and so the local gardai would have to send up a squad car to tell dad that he was wanted on the phone down at Dundrum Garda station.

My friends on the road were very suspicious of seeing my dad being driven away in a squad car every so often, it was hard to convince them that he was going to answer the phone.

Mr. teddywinkles

Rodin wrote: »

https://www.wcrf.org/int/cancer-facts-figures/link-between-lifestyle-cancer-risk/cancers-linked-being-overweight-or

Inform thyself.
Ireland in top 10 fattest nations in the world.
Obesity raises risk of 11 types of cancer.
We won't even talk about cardiovascular disease...

And that's an excuse for all the mess ups here. There's not one day I don't turn on the news and someone is sueing the HSE for some mess up.
Again what you talk about is mostly due to fast paced capitalism and not having time to cook properly. Also convenience fast food joints cashing in on this. Yes people need to watch what they eat and take personal responsibility but to say that work does not enfringe on lifestyle choices at times.
Yad be kidding yourself.

RobertKK

No country is perfect.
Ireland is very far away from being a kip.

timthumbni

RobertKK wrote: »

No country is perfect.
Ireland is very far away from being a kip.

The whole world is a kip. Ireland is much less of a kip than most other places though. Sure we don’t even have snakes ffs. Not since patrick through a campaign of harassment and intimidation drove them out.

Grayson

Deleted User wrote: »

I sometimes wonder about the people who complain about Ireland so much. Don't get me wrong... I did the same when I was younger. I thought other countries had to be so much better than what Ireland was, and in some cases, they were. But that was 30 years ago, and Ireland has changed considerably since then. The other major difference is that back then I hadn't lived abroad much. Oh I'd traveled on short hops/holidays to other countries but that only gives a shallow experience of other countries.

Since then, I've spent a lot more time in other countries. 8 Years in China. 1.5 years in Australia. 8 months in Japan. A few months in a variety of other countries living in a particular city as opposed to living on a holiday budget (pre-saved).

Ireland is a great country for those people who want this kind of living. It is a small country and hasn't developed along the lines of the larger nations. It doesn't have an impressive transportation network, and most things in this country are far more expensive than they should be. You pay quite a bit for the lifestyle you want but the same can be said for most countries. The tiny population is probably the biggest factor since that influences so much in terms of options.

I think it really comes down to what you want from life. I don't particularly want the type of lifestyle that Ireland offers, or the costs involved. And so, I'll go back to living abroad. But I do that, knowing the differences. I don't particularly enjoy the small town feel to everywhere in Ireland. Dublin doesn't impress me in the slightest, and the other cities are just large towns. Nor do I enjoy the weather or the attitudes to health. For all the claims to freedom, there are rather a wide range of regulation regarding what you can or cannot do here. (Yes, I'm a smoker, and paying so much bothers me)

Is Ireland a kip? Not even close to one. Obviously, anyone who says so, hasn't really lived abroad much. Their ideas of other places are sugar coated and they've missed out on the corruption, hassle, expense, etc of most other countries. In spite of the stupidity of Irish officials, Irish people have very little actual exposure to corruption from officials. Ireland is a very comfortable country for those who want this kind of life, or enjoy the Irish cultural trends.

If you're finding yourself unhappy living in Ireland, I'll suggest the normal answer. Leave. Get out. Get some bloody perspective. I know I won't live long-term in Ireland again. It's not the place for me. A great country but it doesn't ring my bells. I do prefer much larger populations, and the options that comes with that.

I'd agree with most of what you say but I'd disagree with the last bit. If you don't like it, do something about it. Don't leave unless you actually want to live somewhere else or unless you need to because of economics.

Ireland is a bit of a kip. Sure we have loads to be proud of but there's loads that need improvement.

Agricola

No. When we have to start bribing police and public officials for everything we want done, when we have a one party dictatorship, or when Cork and Kerry get washed away in a Tsunami, then I'll think about labelling the place a kip.

fryup

in the 80's it was...but today its grand

whisky_galore

It's not a kip, but serious housekeeping needs to be done wrt health and housing.
This and previous govts are only nipping around the edges and not grasping the problem.

If you're reasonably well-off with your own roof over your head, it's great.