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Let's all take Blindboy seriously now...

Sky King

People do know this is a character right? And not an actual person?

Does it strike anyone else as strange that a made-up persona with a fake voice, parody accent and a fking plastic bag on his head is treated like a normal, regular person in debates and current affairs TV shows? And given the same credibility and respect as an actual real person?

Imagine Fr. Dougal Mcguire, Dustin the Turkey and Fortycoats appearing our incisive current affairs shows discussing mental health with Alan Partridge adjudicating.

Or discussing the 8th amendment and feminism with Mrs Brown, The Bottler and Podge and Rodge? It would be treated like a joke (obviously), but when the prank phone call making, glue-huffing, spastic hawk-toting Blindboy talks serious we all suddenly have to sit up take it seriously.

If I was asked to debate on the same show as a parody character I'd be more than a little pissed off.

By all means share your story on mental health or offer an opinion on our education system. But for fk sake would you give us and the other people on the show the respect of doing it yourself, in a real voice? Without a fking bag on your head?

Alternatively if you prefer holding on to the bag, you could try going back to... you know... being funny. And less preachy.

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flookdgates

Wibbs wrote: »

Not so unusual in music or art. John Lennon had the hard neck to write a song like "Working class hero" when he was very much a middle class boy who went to art college in post war Britain. Then again his video for Imagine where he sang lines like imagine no possessions while in his stately home with grounds. Music and art strongly tends to be a middle class pursuit.

That video always made me laugh. Singing "Imagine no possessions" when the piano he's playing on probably costs more than most people's annual wage.

elefant

flookdgates wrote: »

They are pretending to be something they're not. I believe the leftists call it "appropriating culture". If I was a working class Limerick lad I would be pissed off that these two posh boys are getting rich from making fun of my accent.

You should let them know how pissed off they should be. The Rubberbandits seem to be extremely popular in Limerick; show them the error of their ways!

Ush1

Champagne socialism as it's known.

Wibbs

flookdgates wrote: »

They are posh boys from the affluent suburbs.

Not so unusual in music or art. John Lennon had the hard neck to write a song like "Working class hero" when he was very much a middle class boy who went to art college in post war Britain. Then again his video for Imagine where he sang lines like imagine no possessions while in his stately home with grounds. Music and art strongly tends to be a middle class pursuit.

Woke Hogan

flookdgates wrote: »

They are pretending to be something they're not. I believe the leftists call it "appropriating culture". If I was a working class Limerick lad I would be pissed off that these two posh boys are getting rich from making fun of my accent.

Snore. Leftists, rightists blah blah blah. They're **** comedians, who cares about their private lives.

flookdgates

Woke Hogan wrote: »

So what?

They are pretending to be something they're not. I believe the leftists call it "appropriating culture". If I was a working class Limerick lad I would be pissed off that these two posh boys are getting rich from making fun of my accent.

listermint

flookdgates wrote: »

^^^
Bang on post.

Do you really think working class lads in Limerick are having discussions about the patriarchy and toxic masculinity? Rubberbandits target audience are hysterical middle aged feminists and their beta orbiters. BTW the Rubberbandits (Bob McGlynn ad Dave Chambers) are not from working class backgrounds themselves. They are posh boys from the affluent suburbs.

Working class people don't live in afluent suburbs ??

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Ush1

Deleted User wrote: »

Ah now, lads. The Rubbebandit’s demographic was never disaffected urban youth. It was student types and former student types who indulged in the heavy drinking and light drug taking the boys sang about.

This was back when they were a more of comedy music duo and less about the art or letting people know that they are not actually buffoons but really smart guys under the masks.

Their demographic these days seems to be thirty-something year old women and serious young men with very little sense of humour.

Bang on. It's very annoying also because they are funny. It's like that later phase comedians get when "they have something to say" all of a sudden.

Woke Hogan

flookdgates wrote: »

BTW the Rubberbandits (Bob McGlynn ad Dave Chambers) are not from working class backgrounds themselves. They are posh boys from the affluent suburbs.

So what?

flookdgates

Deleted User wrote: »

Ah now, lads. The Rubbebandit’s demographic was never disaffected urban youth. It was student types and former student types who indulged in the heavy drinking and light drug taking the boys sang about.

This was back when they were a more of comedy music duo and less about the art or letting people know that they are not actually buffoons but really smart guys under the masks.

Their demographic these days seems to be thirty-something women and serious young men with very little sense of humour.

^^^
Bang on post.

Do you really think working class lads in Limerick are having discussions about the patriarchy and toxic masculinity? Rubberbandits target audience are hysterical middle aged feminists and their beta orbiters. BTW the Rubberbandits (Bob McGlynn ad Dave Chambers) are not from working class backgrounds themselves. They are posh boys from the affluent suburbs.

[Deleted User]

Ah now, lads. The Rubbebandit’s demographic was never disaffected urban youth. It was student types and former student types who indulged in the heavy drinking and light drug taking the boys sang about.

This was back when they were a more of comedy music duo and less about the art or letting people know that they are not actually buffoons but really smart guys under the masks.

Their demographic these days seems to be thirty-something year old women and serious young men with very little sense of humour.

weldoninhio

Woke Hogan wrote: »

I'd honestly only imagine particularly dimwitted teenagers would like that. Nodding along with its lyrics sagely before turning to their equally dimwitted friend, both agreeing on how "like, deep it is, like" before rolling a massive three skinner.

Exactly, they're like a cool Richie Kavanagh. Nonsense songs for idiot kids.

kubjones

Wibbs wrote: »

I can certainly see how they would appeal to that demographic of I would imagine mostly urban young men alright(maybe with a side order of non Dublin centric going on?). That's not easy to pull off either. You can't do it cynically that's for sure. You'll be caught out. There's a long history to that kinda music. Rap before it went mainstream into white suburbia and largely ate itself an obvious one. Punk another. And people outside the demographic, not just old farts either, just don't get it, often vehemently. Well I suppose they're not meant to get it. It's not aimed at them and it's not their lives and experience.

Absolutely, I'm not sure how detached somebody has to be from the lower to middle class though that they've never had any experience with these kind of people. And even then, unless people are completely unaware of Irish culture they should be able to grasp the message.

Wibbs

kubjones wrote: »

I think the reason it resonated with young people so much was because the satire was targeted at an area of Irish society that the likes of RTE and all our other Media tends to ignore or brush under the carpet. Its relatable because most kids growing up in this country have had to deal with those kind of people that would rob shops, take yokes and fight all the time. Its so common its easy to forget how ridiculous it is sometimes.

I can certainly see how they would appeal to that demographic of I would imagine mostly urban young men alright(maybe with a side order of non Dublin centric going on?). That's not easy to pull off either. You can't do it cynically that's for sure. You'll be caught out. There's a long history to that kinda music. Rap before it went mainstream into white suburbia and largely ate itself an obvious one. Punk another. And people outside the demographic, not just old farts either, just don't get it, often vehemently. Well I suppose they're not meant to get it. It's not aimed at them and it's not their lives and experience.

Wibbs

flookdgates wrote: »

Imagine spending hours of you life defending a manchild with a bag on his head on an internet forum for pensioners.

kubjones

flookdgates wrote: »

Imagine spending hours of you life defending a manchild with a bag on his head on an internet forum for pensioners. "Blindboy" (stupid name) doesn't care about you or even know you exist. Why treat him like a God whose every word is gospel?

Nobody here is treating him like a God. People either like him or they don't, they're explaining their reasoning for either or, although it mostly seems to be the Boomers attacking him with no real substance like "He's an awful gob*&%^."

The Rubberbandits' music is actually great. I haven't listened to anything they might have done in the last two years if they have done anything, but the satire in most of what they do is potent. "Your Dad's Best friend" is one of the best they've ever done.

In relation to composition, "I wanna fight your father" is fairly catchy and the production on most of their tracks is sound. They're talented lads.
I think the reason it resonated with young people so much was because the satire was targeted at an area of Irish society that the likes of RTE and all our other Media tends to ignore or brush under the carpet. Its relatable because most kids growing up in this country have had to deal with those kind of people that would rob shops, take yokes and fight all the time. Its so common its easy to forget how ridiculous it is sometimes.

Anyone that flat out says their music is bad doesn't really know anything about music. You can absolutely dislike their music, but you look ignorant when you try and boom your opinion as fact.

flookdgates

Imagine spending hours of you life defending a manchild with a bag on his head on an internet forum for pensioners. "Blindboy" (stupid name) doesn't care about you or even know you exist. Why treat him like a God whose every word is gospel?

s7ryf3925pivug

DickSwiveller Returns wrote: »

If I told you that I think the cheeky girls song 'We are the cheeky girls' is better than Beethoven's 7th symphony would you think I was crazy or would you not think it was strange

I'd be surprised if you didn't think that

Chaos Tourist

Have we reached peak nihilism yet? Music, film and theatre reviewers might as well pack it in now.

Ass: coming to your cinema sometime in the future.

[Deleted User]

Ha..caught on a technicality..

Lash Into The Pints

I'm sorry but their music is awful.

DickSwiveller Returns

Brian? wrote: »

It’s definitely far superior to anything Oasis ever produced. See, that all about taste.

If I told you that I think the cheeky girls song 'We are the cheeky girls' is better than Beethoven's 7th symphony would you think I was crazy or would you not think it was strange

[Deleted User]

DickSwiveller Returns wrote: »

I listen to lots of different genres - Classical, folk, Oasis, Metallica, Radiohead etc. etc. And I play the guitar and sing myself so I like to think I have some knowledge of music. Ah but sure each to their own. If people enjoy it so be it. We won't fall out over it.

I don't mind if people aren't into it but saying its not music is objectively wrong

Brian?

DickSwiveller Returns wrote: »

No, it's even worse than I thought. It's probably the most awful thing I've ever heard.

Sure isn't

It’s definitely far superior to anything Oasis ever produced. See, that all about taste.

HappyAsLarE

I love their music personally. So much more depth and meaning to it than chart music.

DickSwiveller Returns

briany wrote: »

Point is that everyone's got an opinion when it comes to music, and that's natural enough. But once you start transferring that opinion to objective statements, discussions quickly go off the rails, especially when the opening posits that fans of a certain type of music are not right in the head, or that it's dross. Just what I've found.

Saying it's dross isn't an objective statement

briany

DickSwiveller Returns wrote: »

I'm not sure what your point is. Should we never discuss the merits of an artist?

Point is that everyone's got an opinion when it comes to music, and that's natural enough. But once you start transferring that opinion to objective statements, discussions quickly go off the rails, especially when the opening posits that fans of a certain type of music are not right in the head, or that it's dross. Just what I've found.

[Deleted User]

Deleted User wrote: »

This is at least the second time this thread has descended into "well what do you listen to.."

Odd..

Careful now or you'll get it locked

[Deleted User]

This is at least the second time this thread has descended into "well what do you listen to.."

Odd..

DickSwiveller Returns

briany wrote: »

OK, so. I'll just add the Rubberbandits to my list of music that people have slated at one time or another.

*Inspects list*

Hmm, I appear to have every conceivable form of music, here.

I'm not sure what your point is. Should we never discuss the merits of an artist?