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Is Ireland, to put it frankly, a kip?

Gunner Jay

Ireland is now a country where house prices soar while salaries go down. The are so many inequalities in Ireland it is unbelievable. With a mess of a health care system and a litany of scandals, when is enough enough? Six counties of Ireland are still owned by the Brits FFS.

Are you happy with the Ireland you live in today?

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Noveight

Compared to other countries Ireland is an absolute gem.

whisky_galore

mickoneill31 wrote: »

No, Ireland isn't a kip. We do, however have some world class whingers that try to drag everything down. They might be only about 5% of the population but they're about 50% of the online community.

Whinging about whinging. Oh the ironing.

Rodin

The health service would be a whole lot better if people looked after their bodies

Peesonal Lifestyle and food choices now account for a vast amount of health spending

The country of the famine is now one of the fattest in Europe because of its citizens gluttony and sloth. You couldn't make it up.

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K.Flyer wrote:

Might be closer than you think!

I did read that already. I'm not sure we want it too quickly. If it's not a gradual thing my fear is that the bombs move south

K.Flyer

Sleeper12 wrote: »

I did read that already. I'm not sure we want it too quickly. If it's not a gradual thing my fear is that the bombs move south

I doubt there would be any sort of smooth transition, even if T.May totally fcuks up Brexit and every single person up north races to get an Irish passport.

TheRiverman

One criticism I have of this country is the culture of not getting things done for years or never.We have the broadband debacle at present,Motorways,rail link from Dublin Airport to city centre,new children's hospital etc.Just get it done,quickly.

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TheRiverman wrote: »

One criticism I have of this country is the culture of not getting things done for years.We have the broadband debacle at present,Motorways,rail link from Dublin Airport to city centre,new children's hospital etc.Just get it done,quickly.

Yes, we're not perfect and this certainly is a problem.

Rodin

TheRiverman wrote: »

One criticism I have of this country is the culture of not getting things done for years or never.We have the broadband debacle at present,Motorways,rail link from Dublin Airport to city centre,new children's hospital etc.Just get it done,quickly.

The broadband plan is a disaster. Such a waste of money. It was fine 10years ago but broadband should now be mobile - not fixed line. Just too expensive

andyd12

HappyAsLarE wrote: »

Maybe you should travel around your country before calling it a kip. Some of the most amazing places I have ever been to: Donegal, Galway, Antrim, Kerry.

Agreed along with Sligo, Leitrim, Mayo, cork etc etc. Far from a kip.

@OP...Go live in a 3rd world country, where the government systematically opresses it's people, for a few months. I bet you might change your tune and realise how lucky you are to have such freedom, opportunity and incredibly beauty in our country.

Wheeliebin30

andyd12 wrote: »

Agreed along with Sligo, Leitrim, Mayo, cork etc etc. Far from a kip.

@OP...Go live in a 3rd world country, where the government systematically opresses it's people, for a few months. I bet you might change your tune and realise how lucky you are to have such freedom, opportunity and incredibly beauty in our country.

Not to mention the most generous welfare system in Europe.

gctest50

Rodin wrote: »

The health service would be a whole lot better if people looked after their bodies

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The hse would be a whole lot better if the doctors weren't sh!te

Why are they sh!te ?

Overtired. Overtired all the time is the same as being drunk at work

A bit like some lad with a few pints in him *may* be able to drive home in one piece every week, sooner or later he'll run over the cat or worse

( some may just be plain sh!te at their job though)

In 2011, there were 573 claims for compensation against the Department and the HSE, resulting in costs of more than €58.8 million.

Last year, the number of claims had increased to €96.4 million.

2017 payouts totalling €56.8 million.

gozunda

Rodin wrote: »

The health service would be a whole lot better if people looked after their bodies

Peesonal Lifestyle and food choices now account for a vast amount of health spending

The country of the famine is now one of the fattest in Europe because of its citizens gluttony and sloth. You couldn't make it up.

Too many tabloid headlines there. Sedentary lifestyles are not just an issue in Ireland.

In this survey Ireland ranks fairly well down - coming in at no 55 ...

https://renewbariatrics.com/obesity-rank-by-countries/

Any mamade or natural disaster or even the usual flu season and our 'health' system does not cope

If "Personal Lifestyle and food choices now account for a vast amount of health spending" then why is our health system fuked?

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TheRiverman wrote:

One criticism I have of this country is the culture of not getting things done for years or never.We have the broadband debacle at present,Motorways,rail link from Dublin Airport to city centre,new children's hospital etc.Just get it done,quickly.

At the same time we've come a long way. In the late 70s & early 80s there was a three year wait to get a Landline into your house. I remember people getting onto their local TD trying to speed things up.

Ah you've gotta love the Irish

Wheeliebin30

Sleeper12 wrote: »

At the same time we've come a long way. In the late 70s & early 80s there was a three year wait to get a Landline into your house. I remember people getting onto their local TD trying to speed things up.

Ah you've gotta love the Irish

It’s no different anywhere else.

Rodin

gozunda wrote: »

Too many tabloid headlines there. Sedentary lifestyles are not just an issue in Ireland.

Any mamade or natural disaster or even the usual flu season and our 'health' system does not cope

If "Peesonal Lifestyle and food choices now account for a vast amount of health spending" then why is our health system fuked?

Because there are too many demands on it!
Because too many are ill because of their lifestyle!

gozunda

Rodin wrote: »

Because there are too many demands on it!
Because too many are ill because of their lifestyle!

Maybe cos it's shoite and it can't even cope with an average flu season?

Mutant z

No and i suggest to those who want to run this country down at every turn to go and live elsewhere this isn't the country for you.

Wheeliebin30

gozunda wrote: »

Maybe cos it's shoite and it can't even cope with an average flu season?

Do you think every country copes with flu season?

Alf Veedersane

Shenshen wrote: »

Lots of room to improve, but show me any country that doesn't have that.

RTE repeats, innit

jace_da_face

Go have a look at Skid Row downtown L.A. on Google street view and then tell me if you think Ireland is a kip.

oneilla

It's beautiful from a distance.

PMBC

The answer is no - its not a kip but there are a lot of important things that need to be improved - housing and health are two of the 'biggies' which most commentators that I have read agree. However, they don't agree on the solutions. Underlying this we have a political system which is very good in some ways but, in trying not to upset some, wont provide the best solutions.
I agree with a few posters who allude to communist countries as having had terrible records (of treating their citizens badly). I dont agree with a lot of posters here who attack the OP and infer that he is lazy/useless/personally to blame as in 'try harder'.
Possibly I, and lots of others, need to work (a little) harder to have the things we see as needed -i.e. a better health service and reasonably priced rents and houses/accomodation. To say that we have higher/highest wages and salaries is true but those are related to the cost of living in Ireland, which - and correct me if I am wrong - is also higher than most European countries. I've never lived in USA so I cant compare but to compare the Irish health service t theirs is hardly a good ideas since it is so poor.

dxhound2005

It's the best wee country in Ireland.

housetypeb

Mutant z wrote: »

No and i suggest to those who want to run this country down at every turn to go and live elsewhere this isn't the country for you.

Your attitude of love it or leave it is a simplistic viewpoint,it would lead to nothing ever changing.
As a citizen there is nothing wrong with pointing out the faults in our country and asking why it cannot be improved.

gozunda

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Do you think every country copes with flu season?

Yes many do ...

TheRiverman

Sleeper12 wrote: »

At the same time we've come a long way. In the late 70s & early 80s there was a three year wait to get a Landline into your house. I remember people getting onto their local TD trying to speed things up.

Ah you've gotta love the Irish

That's true about the length of time to get a Landline,but the answer then was huge recruitment of staff and investment in the network by Dept.Of Posts and Telegraphs something that has been destroyed by privatisation.

Love the Irish and love Ireland,I would never live in any other country.

Mr. teddywinkles

Rodin wrote: »

The health service would be a whole lot better if people looked after their bodies

Peesonal Lifestyle and food choices now account for a vast amount of health spending

The country of the famine is now one of the fattest in Europe because of its citizens gluttony and sloth. You couldn't make it up.

Yep cerviacal cancer check worked a charm there didn't it. Think before you write mate. so many fook ups from the hse it's in real and you come on here ****ing about look after own health. Granted no system is perfect

NinetyTwoTeam

how many kips could a kipchuck kip if a kipchuck could chuck kips? seriously how many is it a kip threads do we need.

the world is a kip. at least ours is a charming kip. we have so little to worry about compared to what many other kips deal with.

even our biggest Western allies, have Trump, gun violence, Brexit, terrorist and acid attacks to deal with. we have it pretty sweet, though we do need to sort out the disparity growing so much between cost of living and wages, and we still need more jobs here.

only we can change it ourselves. our government is not going to. i think in future we will have a lot more communal living, and many generations living together, as housing and resources continue to be dwarfed by the population.

Valmont

It's not a kip but nowhere near as good as people like to think it is. Irish people are loved around the world and a few decades ago we started to believe the hype and that our farts smelled lovely. The state can barely fix a pothole and the only thing they can be relied on for is to blow up the economy every ten years. And our national football team is rubbish.

con___manx1

Ireland is an under populated country overall. im glad in a way there is a housing crisis. It will stop all the foreigners moving over.
Iv lived in 3 cities with huge populations and i just got sick of it.
I love in ireland the way you could go to a beach for example nd have the whole place to yourself.
People take stuff like that for granted.

Just say the Eu tells ireland you have to take 10000 refugees next week.

Irish governments responce is
No houses here sorry about that eu : )