FrancieBrady wrote: » The opportunity is there now, after this debacle to drag two (three if you want to include rugby) organisations who receive public funding into a room and find out where the money is going exactly. Personally think that would be a very healthy outcome.
Silentcorner wrote: » Funny you should mention that now, because, it wasn't so long ago the FAI wouldn't allow a friendly match between Limerick FC and Barcelona which would have gone a long way to securing the financial security of the club, which is now struggling to pay wages. There is a real opportunity for all codes, with the diversity of stadiums at our disposal, to generate huge money for all codes, there is a lot of lessons to be learned from this debacle, but like you say, it would require an a mount of openness.
Zebra3 wrote: » The most incredible thing about the GAA myth as it were is that people stand up in a court of law and make a point that the accused/convicted is a member of the GAA as if this makes him or her somehow deserving of a lenient service. It says a lot about corruption in this country that judges allow these comments to be made, and there is no political or media backlash to this. The GAA could do worse than call this sort of crap out, allowing their name to be abused by criminals.
Richard Hillman wrote: » Another overplayed one is "all of the money earned by the GAA, goes back into the GAA". I'm pretty sure that's the same for every sport. It's a cult-like fringe movement that are embedded into all sorts of state apparatus. Nowhere as near as popular as it's made out to be, despite lumping 2 sports together and claiming to be one.
Silentcorner wrote: » Its hard to argue with any of that. I enjoy and have played both sports, if I just compared what my local GAA team has built over the last 20 years compared to my local football team...its miles apart, the GAA club has built an astroturf pitch (along with a clubhouse and gym)that is rented out to the likes of me playing football on it. If I look at where I am from, Limerick, and compare how both sports (Rugby and football)have evolved over the last 20 years, Markets Field v Thomond Park. Even though football is what I would consider my first sport, the way it is administered in this country is a disgrace.
Joeytheparrot wrote: » There is also the fact that GAA and politics are heavily intertwined in this country and so GAA often gets huge grants and other sports ignored.
smelly sock wrote: » Im not sure that you can back this up fully. The reason why GAA got 30million for puc is because they can fill it numerous times a year. They also part funded it themselves. The FAI just want handouts for the best part.
Joeytheparrot wrote: » What? Are you seriously telling me that every county council in the country doesnt have many councillors with close GAA associations? I am not merely talking about Pairc Ui Chaoimh
smelly sock wrote: » You said other sports were ignored for funding. Im saying if they dont have a sound financial plan or a track record of providing state of the art facilities then you shouldnt be suprised.
shakeitoff wrote: » How can a participants of a sport confined to an Island of 4 million people ever be called 'world class' or compared to elite players in global sports like footbal.
smelly sock wrote: » I dont think that GAA players at intercounty level are compared to loi players. They are compared to world class soccer players as they like elite gaa players are at the top of their sport. Loi players are nowhere near it.
FrancieBrady wrote: » That is a much deeper issue than just GAA favoritism. I am positive sure it happens. But there is favourtism for many different things because of the make up of councils.
Joeytheparrot wrote: » How can they gain a track record in fairness when the GAA hogs all the political capital.
Joeytheparrot wrote: » The GAA and politics in this country are intertwined at every level.
smelly sock wrote: » Because they are at the top of their game. They put in as much if not more effort that footballers...
KaneToad wrote: » More nonsense. They may be at the top of their game but it's a fallacy to state they put in more effort than a LOI footballer, or a national badminton champ, or a international athlete, or national swimming champ, or any other myriad of amateur/semi pro athletes in the country..
smelly sock wrote: » I respect evry amateur athlete in the country and the top of their game. Are you suggesting that the fai or irish badminton association should get funding for a stadium that they cant fill or use?
KaneToad wrote: » No. That would be nonsense. I am disputing your assertion that GAA players put in more effort than LOI soccer players. Championing the GAA for being amateur also puzzles me. The reason they are an amateur organisation (and a fine one at that) is that they can't sustain themselves as a professional organisation. The organisation would collapse.
FrancieBrady wrote: » The same can be asked of the LOI, can soccer sustain itself as a pro game here? If you look at the infrastructure they have managed to build, the pro clubs that have come and gone and that teeter on the edge of financial collapse, the answer would be an emphatic No.
