dxhound2005 wrote: » When a post starts off "Don't get me wrong", I always suspect that something is not right.
Patww79 wrote: » The onslaught continues. Did you not hear that it's being played in Pairc Ui Chaoimh? Was decided this morning.
andekwarhola wrote: » The main classic is the amateur /volunteer/community thing that's heavily utilised for their commercial propaganda. Especially, no doubt, hugely expensive advertising campaigns. It's like no other sport in the whole fcuking country has amateur teams, kids playing, volunteer coaches etc, In fact, that dastardly 'socair' actually has the highest sport participation numbers in the country (the overwhelming majority of it t being underage and amateur) but for propaganda purposes it's routinely written off as an evil commercial enterprise.
nullzero wrote: » There is a moral superiority bestowed on GAA participants if we're honest.
nullzero wrote: » There is a moral superiority bestowed on GAA participants if we're honest. The moral order is 1- GAA, all wonderful people who can do no wrong with a fantastic community spirit, playing for the love of the game, self sacrifice, dedication, tradition, history, real Irish people, kids should always be encouraged to play the games. 2-Rugby, slightly posh but still wonderful and all round good eggs, professional players but hey they're doing the country proud winning European cups at club/provincial level as well as doing well internationally, kids would do well to play the game and the networking opportunities in layer life are fantastic. 3- Soccer, supported by thugs, played by greedy money grabbing swines (LOI players seen as equated with petulant brats making mega bucks in European leagues) who don't appreciate the dedication shown by the amateurs in the GAA, an overall unsavory sport which kids should be kept away from.
RoboKlopp wrote: » The GAA top managment has been shown up in recent weeks. There's clearly someone out of touch making the big decisions. And then rolling back when the heat is on. Weak managment.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Would 'weak management' not apply to a sporting organisation that has only managed to create a stadium that holds 7000 in a city the size of Cork? Could they not at this stage got another sporting organisation like Rugby to help them build somewhere decent if they can't muster the resources themselves? Personally I think it is a sign of strong secure management that can change it's mind and come up with a neat formula that shows off it's own sport too. I enjoy both sports btw, and my children play both codes, but I can never fail to be amazed at how little soccer has managed to achieve in the community in terms of infrastructure where it would be almost equal with GAA in terms of participation.
Silentcorner wrote: » Its hard to argue with any of that. I enjoy and have played both sports, if I just compared what my local GAA team has built over the last 20 years compared to my local football team...its miles apart, the GAA club has built an astroturf pitch (along with a clubhouse and gym)that is rented out to the likes of me playing football on it. If I look at where I am from, Limerick, and compare how both sports (Rugby and football)have evolved over the last 20 years, Markets Field v Thomond Park. Even though football is what I would consider my first sport, the way it is administered in this country is a disgrace.
trapp wrote: » Don't get me wrong, I'm an admirer of the GAA, played hurling and football, regularly go to club games, county games etc but there is a huge amount of bull**** around the organisation at the moment We're constantly told that GAA players 'go to work on a Monday morning' after a match, in reality every decent county team does recovery sessions on a Monday morning, a huge amount of GAA players are students or teachers with the rest employed in gyms etc or living from sponsership deals etc. Yet we never hear LOI first division players praised for combining work with a 40 game season? GAA volunteers are great no doubt about that but do people not volunteer in boxing clubs, soccer clubs, etc all over the country too, listening to the GAA they're the only ones with volunteers! We've heard all week about how great the GAA are for the community but what have they done for the community in the inner city, in the disadvantaged areas in Limerick and Tallaght and west Dublin? Fantastic work being done in these areas by soccer and boxing clubs that doesn't get a mention. They get huge support in terms of promotion, funding etc but still have some elements promoting this 'foreign game' nonsense about other sports. Liam Brady, John Giles, Roy Keane and of course Liam Miller are as Irish as anybody else and don't need to be 'GAA men' to prove their Irishness.
flas wrote: » Personally I'd like to see loi players receiving the same sort of balance in the media and general sporting public minds... They go and train 3-4 nights a week, do their gym work, most for absolutely F all,and then go to work for their 40 hour week, and the top ones, who in real terms earn less than top GAA players per annum actually compete on an international level against bigger and more resourceful teams and have a not bad record, but somehow they are lumped in with multi millionaires abroad who have no where near the same connect the loi players have with their local supporters ... Its strange..
FrancieBrady wrote: » The opportunity is there now, after this debacle to drag two (three if you want to include rugby) organisations who receive public funding into a room and find out where the money is going exactly. Personally think that would be a very healthy outcome.
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