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AI Senior Hurling- Liam McCarthy Cup 2018

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So it's almost that time of year and new calender and new look hurling championship. Could be one of the most competitive championships in years

Fixtures

Leinster
Round 1
Sat 12 May- Offaly vs Galway
Sun 13 May- Dublin vs Kilkenny

Round 2
Sun 20 May- Kilkenny vs Offaly, Wexford vs Dublin

Round 3
Sat 26 May- Offaly vs Wexford
Sun 27 May- Galway vs Kilkenny

Round 4
Sat 2 June- Wexford vs Galway
Sun 3 June- Dublin vs Offaly

Round 5
Sat 9 June- Kilkenny vs Wexford, Galway vs Dublin

Final- Sun 1st July (1st vs 2nd)

Munster
Round 1
Sun 20 May- Cork vs Clare, Limerick vs Tipperary

Round 2
Sun 27 May- Clare vs Waterford, Tipperary vs Cork

Round 3
Sat 2 June- Cork vs Limerick
Sun 3 June- Waterford vs Tipperary (Gaelic Grounds Limerick)

Round 4
Sun 10 June- Limerick vs Waterford, Tipperary vs Clare

Round 5
Sun 17 June- Waterford vs Cork (Thurles), Clare vs Limerick

Final- Sun 1st July (1st vs 2nd)

3rd in each group progresses to All Ireland Prem round. 4th/5th eliminated from championship

All Ireland Prem Round- Sat 7th July
3rd Munster/Leinster vs Mcdonagh cup finalist
3rd Munster/Leinster vs Mcdonagh cup finalist

All Ireland Quarter Finals- Sun 15th July
Munster runner up vs Prem round winner
Leinster runner up vs Prem round winner

All Ireland Semi finals- Sat 28th/29th July
Leinster champions vs QF winner
Munster champions vs QF winner

All Ireland Final- Sun 19th Aug

Relagation
If a Leinster teams wins the Mcdonagh cup than they will replace the 5th place team in the Leinster championship for 2019 (5th place Leinster team will play in the 2019 Mcdonagh cup)

If Kerry win the Mcdonagh cup they will play the 5th place Munster team in a playoff with the winner playing in the Munster championship in 2019

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The Talking Bread

ConnyMcDavid wrote: »

source?

https://twitter.com/RTEgaa/status/1023277051422363650

The Talking Bread

giveitholly wrote: »

No hawkeye there

Great for Galway then after all those shocking wides today! Might be given the benefit of the doubt

[Deleted User]

Powerhouse wrote: »

It's always funny to watch the insecurity of hurling fans. Just on this page alone it's better than the Gaelic Football and has more scores than the premiership (of course you will as it's far easier to score). Why not be secure enough in your own skin to just enjoy the game for its own sake and not be constantly looking around for validation?

No insecurity. Im safe in the knowledge that it is and always will be better than Gaelic football. id be a fan of Gaelic football too but it is in need of a shakeup big time. ideally you'd want both codes at least trying to outdo each other week in and week out.

Pussyhands

Dirty tactics by clare won them no fans today.

Hope they get humiliated in the replay.

ConnyMcDavid

awec wrote: »

GAA twitter.

Thanks. Will need to swap my shift in work. No way am I missing this replay.

titan18

They putting the football at 3.30 back then as that's down for TV?

[Deleted User]

Speakerboxx wrote: »

They will beat Galway.

If they had only steadied up in that first period of extra time today they would have done it. Shooting from insane angles.

nice_guy80

Pussyhands wrote: »

Dirty tactics by clare won them no fans today.

Hope they get humiliated in the replay.

Go on. What did they do?

awec

nice_guy80 wrote: »

Go on. What did they do?

Drew the game.

Awful Ted.

mountgomery burns

Powerhouse wrote: »

It's always funny to watch the insecurity of hurling fans. Just on this page alone it's better than the Gaelic Football and has more scores than the premiership (of course you will as it's far easier to score). Why not be secure enough in your own skin to just enjoy the game for its own sake and not be constantly looking around for validation?

I think all the posts referencing gaelic football were tongue in cheek. It's those defending Gaelic that need to relax.

Does anyone really want to have that debate after watching the game, can we not just enjoy the entertainment we were given today?

[Deleted User]

Pussyhands wrote: »

Dirty tactics by clare won them no fans today.

Hope they get humiliated in the replay.

Thought both teams played a good hard physical game to be honest. Im struggling to see where they were dirty. They were up against a physical powerhouse

The Talking Bread

Deleted User wrote: »

No insecurity. Im safe in the knowledge that it is and always will be better than Gaelic football. id be a fan of Gaelic football too but it is in need of a shakeup big time. ideally you'd want both codes at least trying to outdo each other week in and week out.

What does "better" mean ?? They are two different sports? Why don't you just list the hundreds of other sports to make yourself feel even more "better"!

BarryD2

Great game to watch, but there should have been a result at the end. What's the point of extra time if you just end up in a replay anyway? Surely needs a free taking shootout if this happens.

Joe_ Public

What's the actual system? Please tell me they wont decide an All Ireland s/f with a free taking contest!

The Talking Bread

Joe_ Public wrote: »

What's the actual system? Please tell me they wont decide an All Ireland s/f with a free taking contest!

Same as today but with an additional 5 minutes x 2 after the 10 minutes x 2 extra time.

Then, still level, another replay!

Actually, I think it goes to free taking after that, on second glance of rules

mountgomery burns

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Same as today but with an additional 5 minutes x 2 after the 10 minutes x 2 extra time.

Then, still level, another replay!

Was the free taking contest in the league only a trial then?

Joe_ Public

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Same as today but with an additional 5 minutes x 2 after the 10 minutes x 2 extra time.

Then, still level, another replay!

So still an outside possibility of a traditional September All Ireland final then

Pussyhands

Deleted User wrote: »

Thought both teams played a good hard physical game to be honest. Im struggling to see where they were dirty. They were up against a physical powerhouse

I'm talking about the dirty tactics at half time.

GAA teams picking up things from the soccer to try and get ahead. No place for it in the game.

freedominacup

Powerhouse wrote: »

It's always funny to watch the insecurity of hurling fans. Just on this page alone it's better than the Gaelic Football and has more scores than the premiership (of course you will as it's far easier to score). Why not be secure enough in your own skin to just enjoy the game for its own sake and not be constantly looking around for validation?

I went my first senior football championship match last year, almost certainly my last, and it was abysmal. Only went because my daughter was playing in the mini game at half time and we got a couple of free tickets. 28 players moving slowly from an area between one end line and the 45m line in that half to the area between the other 45m and the other end line. Ball and players occasionally moved laterally. Mind numbing horrendous stuff.

There's no insecurity maybe a bit of superiority but football will never be anything more than something you use to keep a team fit when there are breaks in the hurling season. Unless and until football is totally revised into something that's vaguely entertaining it shouldn't be allowed back to Croke park again. Possiblity of scoring from greater distance does not mean easier to score.

The Talking Bread

Pussyhands wrote: »

I'm talking about the dirty tactics at half time.

GAA teams picking up things from the soccer to try and get ahead. No place for it in the game.

Here we go................. let's see who bites

Joe_ Public

Pussyhands wrote: »

I'm talking about the dirty tactics at half time.

GAA teams picking up things from the soccer to try and get ahead. No place for it in the game.

Bit cheeky from Clare alright, wouldnt condone it, but Galway did a fairly good job of wasting actual game time, so I wouldnt be claiming any high moral ground whichever team i was supporting today.

The Talking Bread

freedominacup wrote: »

I went my first senior football championship match last year, almost certainly my last, and it was abysmal. Only went because my daughter was playing in the mini game at half time and we got a couple of free tickets. 28 players moving slowly from an area between one end line and the 45m line in that half to the area between the other 45m and the other end line. Ball and players occasionally moved laterally. Mind numbing horrendous stuff.

There's no insecurity maybe a bit of superiority but football will never be anything more than something you use to keep a team fit when there are breaks in the hurling season. Unless and until football is totally revised into something that's vaguely entertaining it shouldn't be allowed back to Croke park again. Possiblity of scoring from greater distance does not mean easier to score.

I reckon, and it is only an inkling, that the fact that you have zero interest or have probably never even played the sport had an influence on this outlook. The fact that you only went to see your daughter playing because you got free tickets indicates that you went there reluctantly with no interest in trying to embrace the sport.

"something you use to keep a team fit when there are breaks in the hurling season."

Christ.

I actually think this post is a skit designed to get a reaction.

RhubarbCrumble

Christ, that was tense! Galway neighbour on one side and Clare neighbour on the other. I was leaning towards Galway because I don't like the Clare neighbour!
We're all in Limerick. Pretty sure Cork will kick our arse tomorrow.

Powerhouse

Deleted User wrote: »

No insecurity. Im safe in the knowledge that it is and always will be better than Gaelic football.

But the insecurity is in your need to say it at all. Can you imagine a soccer fan leaving a good game at any level having to turn around and point out how much better than (whatever named sport) it is. They'd never need to do so

Powerhouse

mountgomery burns wrote: »

I think all the posts referencing gaelic football were tongue in cheek. It's those defending Gaelic that need to relax.

Does anyone really want to have that debate after watching the game, can we not just enjoy the entertainment we were given today?

I utterly disagree with your first point as (a) I don't believe they were tongue in cheek and (b) I wasn't defending Gaelic, I was questioning the need for hurling fans to be so dismissive of everything else. But your second one is the very one I am making myself except I'd go further and ask what is the value of that "debate" at all. Each to their own sport. Some people prefer cricket to basketball but it means jack sh*t so no need to keep saying it. I think hurling is better than football too but it isn't my go-to reference point at the end of every half-decent hurling match.

Powerhouse

BarryD2 wrote: »

Great game to watch, but there should have been a result at the end. What's the point of extra time if you just end up in a replay anyway? Surely needs a free taking shootout if this happens.

The point of extra time is presumably to try to break the deadlock. Nobody said it was guaranteed. Why do you think there should have been a result at the end? Why is a replay a bad thing?

Pussyhands

Powerhouse wrote: »

The point of extra time is presumably to try to break the deadlock. Nobody said it was guaranteed. Why do you think there should have been a result at the end? Why is a replay a bad thing?

Ultimately the point of a game is to have a winner. Feels like a bit of a waste of time really when it finishes. There shouldn't be any second opportunities. Finish it on the day, even with a free contest.

Powerhouse

freedominacup wrote: »

I went my first senior football championship match last year, almost certainly my last, and it was abysmal. Only went because my daughter was playing in the mini game at half time and we got a couple of free tickets. 28 players moving slowly from an area between one end line and the 45m line in that half to the area between the other 45m and the other end line. Ball and players occasionally moved laterally. Mind numbing horrendous stuff.

There's no insecurity maybe a bit of superiority but football will never be anything more than something you use to keep a team fit when there are breaks in the hurling season. Unless and until football is totally revised into something that's vaguely entertaining it shouldn't be allowed back to Croke park again. Possiblity of scoring from greater distance does not mean easier to score.

I made a point about the repugnance of hurling supporters' attitude to other sports generally. The cannot seem to enjoy their sport without talking bolloxology about "the Gods" and all that nonsense. That is insecurity. They could feel superior and shut up about it. That's all I said. With respect I couldn't care less about where your life story fits into things.

castletownman

Pussyhands wrote: »

Ultimately the point of a game is to have a winner. Feels like a bit of a waste of time really when it finishes. There shouldn't be any second opportunities. Finish it on the day, even with a free contest.

Yeah and then you'll see the 'traditionalists' coming out of the woodwork, many after years of keeping a low profile in the media, saying how scandalous how a team could be denied a place in the All Ireland final for losing a free-taking contest.

Inseperable after 90 mins. Go again

Powerhouse

Pussyhands wrote: »

Ultimately the point of a game is to have a winner. Feels like a bit of a waste of time really when it finishes. There shouldn't be any second opportunities. Finish it on the day, even with a free contest.

Actually I was hoping a free-taking contest was going to happen as it would cause proper reflection on the hurling championship format instead of having everyone going around blathering about "humdingers", "crackers", and "epics".

But I fail to see your objection to a replay considering the point of that too is to produce a winner. There is nothing about a fixture which potentially begets a replay if the scores are level at the end which prevents a winner emerging. That is guaranteed to happen. About 27% of English premier league soccer games end in draws (albeit catered for in the points system) and it's an incredibly popular sporting product so I am not sure that you view that the point of a game is to have winner really stands up.