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Mooooo

One morning I need to get the cows done early dumbass here let's the wire down directing to parlour and cows head for a gallop to the last fecking field on the pasaage

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Wildsurfer

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

We'd want to be getting close to 30 mm rain to really keep things moving and it'll be ten days at least before grass will be part of our diet again.

But any way, just break down the face of the pit with the loader and roll the ****e out of it, throw the cover back on and job should be good

So you'd slope it off and roll it, would this be just disturbing a lot more of the pit than is necessary? If Tim could get a loan of shear grab for next while so he would have a clean pit face and just leave open maybe?

GrasstoMilk

Timmaay wrote: »

I'm prb jumping the gun here yet ha, but what's the best way to seal back up a pit of silage?

We'd want to be getting close to 30 mm rain to really keep things moving and it'll be ten days at least before grass will be part of our diet again.

But any way, just break down the face of the pit with the loader and roll the ****e out of it, throw the cover back on and job should be good

mahoney_j

straight wrote: »

Was it one of the lads off the journal you got to do it for you? My days are consumed here watching the troughs and no peace of mind. My cows won't drink on the way out of the parlour because they're in such a panic to get to the field.

No a local fencing etc contractor here in Nenagh ,a lot more competitive than the lads in journal.itvwas something I badly needed doing .i had the big troughs and fast valves but only 1/2 inch line feeding them .pure useless troughs now rarely under 3/4 full anytime

straight

mahoney_j wrote: »

500 gallon trough before cows head back to paddock .inch snd quarter loop around farm with inch up to 220/250 gallon troughs and fast flow valves .all pipes buried .job done last year ,one of the better things I’ve pumped money into .tve big trough exiting yard takes demand and thirst from cows before they hit paddocks

Was it one of the lads off the journal you got to do it for you? My days are consumed here watching the troughs and no peace of mind. My cows won't drink on the way out of the parlour because they're in such a panic to get to the field.

Timmaay

I'm prb jumping the gun here yet ha, but what's the best way to seal back up a pit of silage?

Gawddawggonnit

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

I trialed one a few years back and thought they’re a poor relation to a diet feeder...

I’ve Scariboldi 17cube in pmo here. It came with an outfarm that we took on 3yrs ago. I thought that it’d be handy for doing the exact same job as those feeder buckets, but only used it a couple of times.
Dan tackled on this morning and everything’s perfect.

Free to anybody that wants to take it away. Maybe it’d be handy for a few of ye together.
Free of charge. Pm if interested.

Apologies for not being clear folks!

1. It’s a Sgariboldi,17cubic meter DIET FEEDER.

2. Year 2001.

3. Large augur along the bottom with knives. Knives are about 75% good and floor is in good nick with no holes etc.

4. Electronic, programmable with siren/alarm, weighing system.

5. Chain type conveyor that unloads to the left only. Speed of chain is adjustable.

6. Dual speed gearbox.

7. Single, braked axle with lorry super singles 365/65r22.5 in good order. Has a spare wheel bolted to the back also.

8. Conveyor is driven by hydraulic motor and adjustable. It also folds with hydraulic rams.

9. Has an onboard battery so can be loaded and weighed without a tractor attached. Needs a new battery.

10. Takes about 10 ton of forage and about 12-13 ton meal/ration.

11. For mixing a full load of forage it needs about 120hp minimum.

12. Will feed out ration deadly accurately but WON’T feed into a round feeder.

13. Yes it has a wide angle pto.

It’s FREE. I’ll load onto a truck also for free.

PMO.

Seems that bucket feeders are cool but diet feeders are very uncool. I’m not selling it, I was under the impression that ye were quite stuck for diet feeders...

Mooooo

Spread slurry here on some paddocks, and will put out a bag of cut sward on the rest of the paddocks. Also topping paddocks with stemmy residual, odd paddock with a heavier stemmy cover I may just bale to get it going again, as said cows aren't eating it. Will Have all the second cut ground this weekend so going to keep the rotation at thirty days for the next week and may just bale as surpluses arise, or hopefully arise. If it all comes together I may open the pit but bales are prob the handiest way of managing it at this stage,

alps

Between the burnt patches, any grass has a definitive "blue/ green colour. I'm pretty sure there are no nutritional deficiencies even though we have no N fertiliser out since 22nd of June.

I am tempted to take a different approach to resuming normal grazing, than that which we are advised...

I'm really tempted to pull all silage supplement and kick off at 14 day rotation speed, maybe introducing silage again after 10 days to get rotation out to maybe 18 at which time I'm hoping we'll be back to near normal growth rates..I think 30 day rotation is just too long to invigorate awards..
I'm tempted to top everything to the butt, the minute cows leave the field. Residuals are scruffy, and what's left now has no chance of being eaten next time around. It's only taking up the space where good grass could grow, and the shock of topping may just liven up the whole sward as it can do after a dormant period in the spring.

75% of the platform got 5000gals of lagoon slurry via umbilical dribble bar, while cows were off on sacrifice by night, and the rest will get 2 bags of 18's..

All silage ground will be fertilised next week for a third cut, and stock fed heavily, so that the milking platform alone can cope with demand.

Mooooo

I wouldn't still N in the ground probably so you don't want to sour the grass, if you've a bag out last week I'd leave alone for 2 to 3 weeks.

Wildsurfer

Maidens and calves back in shed today to give ground a chance to recover and get fertilizer out on every paddock. Pulled cows out of grazing second cut ground, gone to 7Kg in parlour so hopefully growth kicks on now so I can stay away from badly need second cut area. Lovely rain here all afternoon and warm. What rate of fertilizer are lads going with now? I put out a bag of CAN during the week, wondering should I top up with half a bag tomo?

mahoney_j

whelan2 wrote: »

Do ye have many drinkers in the collecting yard? We have 4. The cows can get their fill if there's a big demand in the paddock.

500 gallon trough before cows head back to paddock .inch snd quarter loop around farm with inch up to 220/250 gallon troughs and fast flow valves .all pipes buried .job done last year ,one of the better things I’ve pumped money into .tve big trough exiting yard takes demand and thirst from cows before they hit paddocks

whelan2

Do ye have many drinkers in the collecting yard? We have 4. The cows can get their fill if there's a big demand in the paddock.

freedominacup

cjpm wrote: »

1 inch is too small for 100 cows I've discovered since the drought.....

What type of ballcocks are you using. I found the few brass ones we had left on the early part of the dry spell. Could not match demand at all. Last few replaced a couple of weeks ago. All inch and a half here. Got caught one Sunday morning 3 weeks ago. Cows beating each other away from the water trough. The leg was actually broken on a low pressure standard ballcock so flow was at maximum. Not nearly enough. Fitted a hi flow one drama was over in 30 mins.

straight

mahoney_j wrote: »

Inch pipe ,150 gallon troughs with fast flow valves .if u think you’ll go 100 plus 220/250 gallon .and whatever u do don’t buy plastic troughs ,concrete all the way

Inch pipe is 32mm mdpe now I guess.

mahoney_j

straight wrote: »

80 cows. I'll prob need alot of new troughs and valves. Troughs are mostly downhill with a few uphill of the pumphouse. I just don't like the idea of putting in a pipe too big as I dread leaks with them. They say 25mm mdpe is the same as the old 3/4 inch.

Inch pipe ,150 gallon troughs with fast flow valves .if u think you’ll go 100 plus 220/250 gallon .and whatever u do don’t buy plastic troughs ,concrete all the way

straight

cjpm wrote: »

How many cows?

Are the troughs uphill or downhill of the pump house?

What size troughs?

What type valves?

1 inch is too small for 100 cows I've discovered since the drought.....

80 cows. I'll prob need alot of new troughs and valves. Troughs are mostly downhill with a few uphill of the pumphouse. I just don't like the idea of putting in a pipe too big as I dread leaks with them. They say 25mm mdpe is the same as the old 3/4 inch.

visatorro

6% empty after scanning. This is slightly untrue though because I pulled the bulls two weeks early. Last few cows that calved are not in calf. Will finish next year in the first week of April. Will hand pick a couple for the factory and will milk a few on for a while. Start drying off towards the end of August. Hopefully on ground after third cut!!

simx

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

I trialed one a few years back and thought they’re a poor relation to a diet feeder...

I’ve Scariboldi 17cube in pmo here. It came with an outfarm that we took on 3yrs ago. I thought that it’d be handy for doing the exact same job as those feeder buckets, but only used it a couple of times.
Dan tackled on this morning and everything’s perfect.

Free to anybody that wants to take it away. Maybe it’d be handy for a few of ye together.
Free of charge. Pm if interested.

Pm sent

Gawddawggonnit

I trialed one a few years back and thought they’re a poor relation to a diet feeder...

I’ve Scariboldi 17cube in pmo here. It came with an outfarm that we took on 3yrs ago. I thought that it’d be handy for doing the exact same job as those feeder buckets, but only used it a couple of times.
Dan tackled on this morning and everything’s perfect.

Free to anybody that wants to take it away. Maybe it’d be handy for a few of ye together.
Free of charge. Pm if interested.

cjpm

straight wrote: »

I need to improve my water infrastructure here. Getting sick of replacing rods from the cows nosing them. All I have at the moment is half inch heavy gauge. Would i get away with 25mm mdpe down to 3/4 inch at the valve. Diy or bring in the contractors that bury the pipe and do the whole system.

How many cows?

Are the troughs uphill or downhill of the pump house?

What size troughs?

What type valves?

1 inch is too small for 100 cows I've discovered since the drought.....

Mooooo

wrangler wrote: »

Dairy direct are launching them today in Kilkenny and the Austarlian guy that invented them is speaking at the launch,
We use it in the sheep and it does what it says on the tin, We can set them to feed any level from .25kg to 1.5 kg.
Seriously thinking of going down to it

Don't have time to go to open day, thinking of it for calves and winter use for yearlings as well. Spoke to them on the phone so know the idea just wondering how well they work in reality

wrangler

Mooooo wrote: »

Any of ye use the 3in1 feeders or know anyone using them?

Dairy direct are launching them today in Kilkenny and the Austarlian guy that invented them is speaking at the launch,
We use it in the sheep and it does what it says on the tin, We can set them to feed any level from .25kg to 1.5 kg.
Seriously thinking of going down to it

Mooooo

Any of ye use the 3in1 feeders or know anyone using them?

blackdog1

alps wrote:

Had a French student here one year who snapped and went into a rant saying......."you're all a bunch of ****in protestants"

Look up Saint bartholomew day massacre. The French have it in for them!

Say my name

alps wrote: »

Had a French student here one year who snapped and went into a rant saying......."you're all a bunch of ****in protestants"

I never got to the root of the meaning, but it came during a day when I called the knackery to take away a cow that had just gone down followed by the removal of a pretty useless old stone building....

She maintained that we had no respect for anything that didn't return a monetary value....

Don't know the background to the claim, but thought it was an interesting one...

Maybe look to the neighbours, Dutch and Germans.

Haven't a clue of your own religion nor do I want to know.
But a lot of the Protestant religions have no time for frivolity or nonsense.

alps

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

They think I’m...
A foreigner.
A capitalist.
A polluter.

I’m after more calls this week than any of the previous crises from merchants and farmers asking about fodder.When I say that there’s a possibility that more fodder may be needed...the response is inevitably...AGAIN???

Nutshell...
The natives think ye’re fcukin nuts.
(So pots and kettles I guess).

Had a French student here one year who snapped and went into a rant saying......."you're all a bunch of ****in protestants"

I never got to the root of the meaning, but it came during a day when I called the knackery to take away a cow that had just gone down followed by the removal of a pretty useless old stone building....

She maintained that we had no respect for anything that didn't return a monetary value....

Don't know the background to the claim, but thought it was an interesting one...

Mooooo

Timmaay wrote: »

I use the shear grab for maize here always. Found the bucket dug it up too much.

Same here. I find biting a full grab disturbs the face less. If you are mixing it with other forage a diet feeder is best but if just supplementing grass grab does fine. Would be slow to feed it outside tho due to attracting wildlife

Timmaay

I use the shear grab for maize here always. Found the bucket dug it up too much.

Reggie.

atlantic mist wrote: »

anyone know if you can get an attachment for loader to feed out maize and wholecrop, might have to bite bullet and look at diet feeder

Yeah there's buckets out there with augers in them

atlantic mist

anyone know if you can get an attachment for loader to feed out maize and wholecrop, might have to bite bullet and look at diet feeder