Donald Trump Presidency discussion thread III

"Damn Microsoft, and their partisan ways"

I'm guessing that's the reason why they won't be believed, as per the Senate Intelligence Committee, The CIA, The FBI etc etc etc

https://twitter.com/juliaioffe/status/1019984074885271556

batgoat

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

"Owned her" lol.

Whoopie said Trump starts conversations with "Mexicans are liars and rapists" and that he "whips up people to beat the hell out of people" and then kicked her off the show not letting her reply to that nonsense. That means she "owned her"?

No, that's not how you treat someone and that is not discussion. She shoulf be ashamed of herself, as should anyone that feels that's an okay thing to do to a guest that has been invited onto a show and if Fox did the same to a liberal I'd say the same.

She's paraphrasing things that he has said about Mexicans. He also has attempted to cause violence at his own rallies.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/donald-trump-incitement-violence/

So nothing untrue was said, meanwhile the judge accused her of being deranged. You noticing your double standard here?

ancapailldorcha

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

When did he do that?

That's a weak response. I'm not sure why people continue to defend him to the hilt when it's becoming more and more obvious that the Russians have significant influence or possibly even control over him. That you have to pretend to be unaware of Helsinki to try to mount such a defence is quite an impressive set of mental acrobatics.

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Whoopie said Trump starts conversations with "Mexicans are liars and rapists" and that he "whips up people to beat the hell out of people" and then kicked her off the show not letting her reply to that nonsense. That means she "owned her"?

To be fair, he did say those things. And if you come back with "when?", I'd refer you to a search engine.

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

No, that's not how you treat someone and that is not discussion. She shoulf be ashamed of herself, as should anyone that feels that's an okay thing to do to a guest that has been invited onto a show and if Fox did the same to a liberal I'd say the same.

Great - I actually agree with you.

Now, if I had the rest of the afternoon, I could get you a good and representative cross section of Fox interviewers behaving far worse than (admittedly, the out of order) Whoppi Goldberg.

Captain Obvious wrote: »

No you didn't. You must think we are as stupid as Trump thinks Americans are.

I think the term is, pissing on your leg and telling you it's raining.

Leroy42

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

"Owned her" lol.

Whoopie said Trump starts conversations with "Mexicans are liars and rapists" and that he "whips up people to beat the hell out of people" and then kicked her off the show not letting her reply to that nonsense. That means she "owned her"?

No, that's not how you treat someone and that is not discussion. She shoulf be ashamed of herself, as should anyone that feels that's an okay thing to do to a guest that has been invited onto a show and if Fox did the same to a liberal I'd say the same.

Riiight.. but its ok for Trump to refuse to take questions from journalists simply because he doesn't like their network?

Hypocrisy yet again.

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Ah folks, you're not honestly still trying to suggest that amounts to "siding with a hostile foreign power over his own government"??

I honestly thought something else had come up when I read that.

No you didn't. You must think we are as stupid as Trump thinks Americans are.

mcmoustache wrote: »

It happened in Helsinki. It was fairly big news at the time. I'm surprised that you missed it.

Water John wrote: »

I think Pete wants a whole new round of the Helsinki discussion here.

Ah folks, you're not honestly still trying to suggest that amounts to "siding with a hostile foreign power over his own government"??

I honestly thought something else had come up when I read that.

Igotadose wrote: »

Was she booted off? Whoopi Goldberg pwn'ed her in the discussion and they went to break.

"Owned her" lol.

Whoopie said Trump starts conversations with "Mexicans are liars and rapists" and that he "whips up people to beat the hell out of people" and then kicked her off the show not letting her reply to that nonsense. That means she "owned her"?

No, that's not how you treat someone and that is not discussion. She shoulf be ashamed of herself, as should anyone that feels that's an okay thing to do to a guest that has been invited onto a show and if Fox did the same to a liberal I'd say the same.

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Judge Jeanine Pirro has a book out about how she feels there has been a conspiracy against the Trump administration and was invited on The View to discuss it. While on it she suggested Whoopie has Trump Derangement Syndrome and was subsequently booted off the show.........

https://twitter.com/JudgeJeanine/status/1020293088613453824

No matter what people make of Pirro, booting her off the show just shows us that American liberals have learned nothing. They still feel silencing views they don't agree with is the way to go.

Oh I don't know about using that phrase tbh.

Witnessing Trump saying one thing on TV and then denying that it happened sounds much more like "Trump Derangement Syndrome" to me.

What happened in Helsinki might be one example....

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Judge Jeanine Pirro has a book out about how she feels there has been a conspiracy against the Trump administration and was invited on The View to discuss it. While on it she suggested Whoopie has Trump Derangement Syndrome and was subsequently booted off the show.........

https://twitter.com/JudgeJeanine/status/1020293088613453824

No matter what people make of Pirro, booting her off the show just shows us that American liberals have learned nothing. They still feel silencing views they don't agree with is the way to go.

Is that the TV show that Trump keeps live tweeting?

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Judge Jeanine Pirro has a book out about how she feels there has been a conspiracy against the Trump administration and was invited on The View to discuss it. While on it she suggested Whoopie has Trump Derangement Syndrome and was subsequently booted off the show.........

https://twitter.com/JudgeJeanine/status/1020293088613453824

No matter what people make of Pirro, booting her off the show just shows us that American liberals have learned nothing. They still feel silencing views they don't agree with is the way to go.

If someone accuses you of having a made up syndrome simply because you level justifiable criticism at someone then there is no point in discussing anything with them because they are too far gone to listen to reason and have no intention of hearing what you say. She tried to shut down the debate by using that stupid phrase to delegitimise the view of who she was talking to and she got exactly that in return.

And to add to that, why should they get air time alongside rational debate to talk about groundless conspiracies and made up syndromes? If she wants to spout nonsense she can do it with the flat earthers, anti vaxers and holistic medicine suppliers.

Igotadose

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

No matter what people make of Pirro, booting her off the show just shows us that American liberals have learned nothing. They still feel silencing views they don't agree with is the way to go.

Was she booted off? Whoopi Goldberg pwn'ed her in the discussion and they went to break.

Captain Obvious wrote: »

Helsinki a few days ago.

Caused quite a hullabaloo if I remember correctly. There was an intervention and an attempted apology and everything.

Judge Jeanine Pirro has a book out about how she feels there has been a conspiracy against the Trump administration and was invited on The View to discuss it. While on it she suggested Whoopie has Trump Derangement Syndrome and was subsequently booted off the show.........

https://twitter.com/JudgeJeanine/status/1020293088613453824

No matter what people make of Pirro, booting her off the show just shows us that American liberals have learned nothing. They still feel silencing views they don't agree with is the way to go.

Water John

I think Pete wants a whole new round of the Helsinki discussion here.
Rinse and repeat. Sorry, we all know what we saw and heard.

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

When did he do that?

It happened in Helsinki. It was fairly big news at the time. I'm surprised that you missed it.

In any case, here's a summary.

Intelligence services confirmed that Russians hacked the DNC.

He was asked:

Just now President Putin denied having anything to do with the election interference in 2016. Every US intelligence agency has concluded that Russia did.

My first question for you, sir, is who do you believe?

and responded with

My people came to me, Dan Coats came to me and some others and said they think it’s Russia.

I have President Putin. He just said it’s not Russia. I will say this. I don’t see any reason why it would be, but I really do want to see the server.

Seems pretty clear to me.

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

When did he do that?

Helsinki a few days ago.

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

The idea of a president of the USA of all places siding with a hostile foreign power over his own government is utterly insane.

When did he do that?

dudara

AbusesToilets wrote: »

I feel there is a fundamental flaw in the SCOTUS, in the for life appointments. I'm a firm believer in terms limits at all levels, but especially for one where generational changes in social sentiment should be reflected.

Can’t disagree with that. People do generally lose their mental acuity as they get older. Plus, a regular refresh is better than the inconsistent and unpredictable way it is refreshed right now.

StringerBell wrote:

They had a graphic up last week that the Supreme Court has voted 98% along party lines.

Interesting, I hadn’t realised it was so correlated. It’s not felt like that to me. Was that correlation against the Dem-Rep makeup of SCOTUS, or against the governing party of the time?

Captain Obvious wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDl-2TTacsQ

The reaction to a Fox News host criticising Trump's Helsinki comments

Wow! How toxic was that?

If nothing else, it shone a light on the vitriol a trump supporter has for anyone who dares to disagree!!