JohnnyFlash wrote: » Has Billy ‘Baked Beans’ fled the country yet? Heard his cousin was part of the MGM camp so that probably complicates matters.
tomofson wrote: » If he wasn't the driver he could argue that he didn't know the gun was in the car and was only getting a lift. I seen in one of the papers the suspected target posted a box of bullets saying it was the cure for all kinahan lovers. This individual may also be behind a certain twitter account.
hatrickpatrick wrote: » This seems like as good a moment as any to point out that the nicknames we give these people are feckin' hilarious Like can you imagine if history remembered Al Capone as Al "Bottle Cap" Capone, or Bugs Moran as Bugs "Bunny" Moran? EDIT: it's particularly funny when the media do it without a flinch, like a serious, formal RTE reporter referencing "the trial of Fat Freddie Thompson" without even cracking a smile
SEPT 23 1989 wrote: » Paul ‘Wobbly Boots’ Meehan is my favourite:D
Devoyiedd wrote: » How come, whenever the Kinahan gang carry out a hit, 9 times out of ten they get the chap, but when the Hutch gang carry out a hit, they always miss the intended target, i.e Regency, Balbutcher, Bray boxing club, Michael Keogh etc etc. As a result, they are getting massacred while the Kinahans are laughing. Is it incompetence or what?
Devoyiedd wrote: » That's hardly the only reason?
Devoyiedd wrote: » Both gangs are as loaded as the other, so getting top hitmen shouldn't be an issue surely?
hatrickpatrick wrote: » Regarding accuracy, the problem for the Hutches is that the Regency was a clusterf*ck. If it had gone their way, I think we'd have seen a very different "feud" to the one we have seen, but they failed to get either Daniel Kinahan or Liam Byrne, who by all accounts were the actual targets. They had one shot against these guys and they blew it. It's quite obvious that they weren't prepared for a long drawn out scenario in the event of their targets surviving the initial hit - for example, and I really mean no disrespect to the dead here, but what the f*ck was Eddie Hutch Snr doing sleeping at home two days after a botched hit on the top tier of the other crowd? He was a sitting duck. They all should have been ready to go into hiding, and that means that The Monk should have had his not-involved family members well informed of what was about to go down so as to give them time to get the hell out of the city. That's my take anyway. The Kinahan crew fled the country after David Byrne's funeral and from all accounts haven't been back. In contrast, almost all of the victims on the Hutch side have been hit at or very close to the estates in which they've always lived. Even if I was a totally innocent man with no involvement in gangland crime, if I had a brother, cousin, uncle or whatever who was involved, I'd have got the f*ck out of Dublin ASAP literally the day after news broke of the botched Regency raid. I'm honestly unsure as to whether to chalk it up to incompetence or simply the fact that a lot of people on the Hutch side aren't directly involved in the gang stuff and therefore were totally unprepared for the kind of security measures they'd have to take in the event of the Kinahans and Byrnes going on a revenge rampage.
North inner city hoodlum wrote: » https://www.thesun.ie/news/2865041/hutch-kinahan-cartel-chilling-facebook-bullet-post/ "Gary Hanley posted a photo of a box of bullets on Facebook with the message 'Just found these pills to cure all Kinahan lovers" At least do it anonymously FFS http://www.thejournal.ie/garda-gun-charge-4133727-Jul2018/ "The man (25) is due before the courts at 10.30am. A second man who was arrested at the same time was released without charge. A file is being prepared for the DPP."
tomofson wrote: » Eddie was still in the city because I doubt he was expecting a retaliation within two days, he probably thought he could relax and the others would take their time with retaliation. If whoever organized the regency had told all of their immediate family their is a chance someone would have gave information over to the authorities and got them caught before anything could go ahead.
I should also point out that balbutcher drive was by all means feud related and by all means it was the Hutch mob who done that.
hatrickpatrick wrote: » Fair points, but even without prior warning, if I'd been any immediate (or even one degree of separation) relative of The Monk I'd have skipped town pretty much at dawn on the day after the Regency. Sure, Captain Hindsight and all that but it seems to me that anyone with even the slightest interest in following Irish crime knew within hours that the Regency was most likely Hutch-related at the very least. I have family with long-term involvement in journalism who weren't the slightest bit surprised at the Poplar Row shooting, except mild astonishment that Eddie was still to be found within a hundred miles of the place. RIP one way or another. He seems to have been an entirely innocent man targeted for no reason other than to emotionally devastate The Monk. This is a new one on me I must admit, I had thought that this was related to a totally different feud. My knowledge of the Dublin gangland is limited to media and being pretty good at unearthing old articles and tweets from before these things become high profile, but my understanding was that there are currently three major feuds - Hutch vs Kinahan/Byrne, a separate feud in West Co. Dublin (Clondalkin, Tallaght and nearby suburbs) and finally a third feud in North Co. Dublin (Finglas and Ballymun in particular) - the latter of which I thought was unrelated to either of the other two, but directly related to Balbutcher. Are there any good sources with which one can get up to speed on the distinctions and overlaps between these different feuds? From all accounts, Paul Williams knows his stuff but is prone to unnecessary embellishment and exaggerations, making his writings somewhat unreliable.
tomofson wrote: » considering the fact both of the suspected gunmen are long time hutch associates one of which was killed in December makes me strongly suspect it is Hutch Kinahan related. Especially so close to the killing of michael keogh. Also the media stated they believe 18 deaths are attributed to the feud. On a side note I would say christy griffin is counting his lucky stars he was released in the midst of all this, especially considering extra police patrols in the area and the gunmen have bigger fish to fry
Major Great Cellist wrote: » The Kinahans are strongly involved in a lot of the stuff in Clondalkin. They have close connections there.
benny79 wrote: » Oh yeah remember that.. The nation wasn't even that shocked dont even think we are shocked by anything anymore which shows what a sad society we live in now.. imagine that happened 20 yrs ago! There would be outrage..
tomofson wrote: » He might be behind the whistleblower account. Right after those two lads where arrested the whistleblower made a tween saying the kinahans tried to kill him.
Ash.J.Williams wrote: » If they got kinehan in the regency shooting the repercussions wouldnt have been as severe. Shooting a Byrne made it very personal.
Suckit wrote: » Rumour has it, the 'order' or 'wish' to wipe them all out came from a Byrne.
SEPT 23 1989 wrote: » Gay?
