Sassygirl1999 wrote: » People all over the world are talking about the reprehensible damage that the Donald is doing to himself and America's standing in the world. There's no denying any of that now. That's for sure But the damage he has just done to his office that of the presidency, to international U.S.A diplomacy and to a basic common sense of decency is inestimable
Cheerful Spring wrote: » It all linked why do you think the democrats are so upset with Russia they needed someone to blame. Let's ignore we are corrupt ourselves and start blaming Russia nobody will talk about how corrupt we are then. Who in the media talks about that anymore forgotten as if it never happened.
Professor Moriarty wrote: » Have you a link to where the CIA or NSA categorically stated that Iraq were developing WMDs?
Wheeliebin30 wrote: » I’m utterly outraged to be honest. How can I go about my normal life tomorrow and raise my kids after his comments??? Grow up folks he’s 1 person, life isn’t dictated by him.
Cheerful Spring wrote: » Powell's U.N. Appearance ::: Feb. 5, 2003 U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell goes in person to the U.N. to make the case against Iraq. Citing evidence obtained by American intelligence, he tells the U.N. that Iraq has failed "to come clean and disarm." Powell adds: "My colleagues, every statement I make today is backed up by sources, solid sources. These are not assertions. What we're giving you are facts and conclusions based on solid intelligence." CIA is American intelligence. If they disagreed with the White House it's their job to voice these concerns openly.
rossie1977 wrote: » Clinton was brought in front of Congress and grilled for days by a partisan Republican committee intent on taking her down re: emails/server and they found absolutely nothing they could charge her with. On the flip side we have had multiple arrests, convictions, indictments of Trump campaign members since the 2016 election and the people looking into it are mostly Republican..one was even chosen by Trump himself. Not to mention the clear connection between WikiLeaks, Roger stone and Trump's own son who admitted he set up meeting seeking Russian help. In Russia there have been a number unexplained deaths of high ranking officials since November 2016. As a conspiracy theorist I would have expected you to be all over this.
Professor Moriarty wrote: » Colin Powell was a politician when he said that. So, unlike their categorical and very public assertion that Russia interfered in the election, neither the CIA or the NSA ever stated that Iraq was making WMDs?
Cheerful Spring wrote: » I not sure why people are opposed to better relationships. Frankly peace with North Korea and Russia is not a bad thing. Is the economy not doing better in terms of jobs? Iran issue is problematic but Iran has serious issues how it treats women so it needs to cleanups its act. I think Trump would do better talking to them. Trump has a point about Nato why should the US pay for it all? If other countries are not paying for protection he has a right to talk about that. Illegal immigration. Its illegal for a reason you can't have people coming in and wrecking havoc.
Cheerful Spring wrote: » Yes they did how else would Bush have gotten his war. The assessments came from the CIA unless you think the FBI was operating in Iraq?
The CIA had separately concluded that reports of Iraqi training on weapons of mass destruction were "episodic, sketchy, or not corroborated in other channels," the inspector general's report said
What's clear now is that earlier intelligence reports suggesting Saddam Hussein's regime was attempting to obtain uranium from the African nation of Niger were based on false information, including forged documents. But what's even more embarrassing to Bush administration officials is that the Central Intelligence Agency and the State Department had themselves earlier concluded the Niger uranium reports were almost certainly not true.
Itssoeasy wrote: » 1.What peace with North Korea would that be exactly ? The North Koreans have no intention of giving up their nuclear weapons. They have done this before, the only difference is a sitting US president has given them legitimacy. Having better relations with Russia would be a positive but not the way trump is doing it. 2. The economy was doing fine way before trump took office so let's not give trump all the credit. 3. Yes Iran had issues with many things including how women are treated, but so do the Saudis who trump has no problem with. The women issue isn't why he dislikes them. It's Israel that doesn't like them. 4.The US does not pay for all of NATO btw. It pays about 60 percent or less. Also Trump saying that other NATO countries should pay up to 4% GDP on defense. The US doesn't even spend that now, it spends 3.3 % according to the pentagon. 4. Illegal immigrants are shown to cause less crime than American citizens. Also what havoc are they causing ? Any links as havoc suggests widespread trouble.
WinnyThePoo wrote: » No one can fault you for originality:D
Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: » What’s interesting to me how much the American left is ultra nationalistic. It’s unique in the developed western world. Accusations of treason, fetishing of the military or the secret services. The sheer inability to know the history of their own country’s involvement in the elections (and the overthrow of democracy) in dozens of countries, including Russia.
Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: » Isn’t the Russians hacked the US elections a literal conspiracy theory?
Hurrache wrote: » They didn't, they said there was no definitive proof, and there was the small matter of a faked dossier. The CIA said the WMD rationale was nonsense so the US government at the time moved to throw in other reasons to invade.http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/07/08/wbr.iraq.claims/ How do you not know any of this well publicised scandal?
Cheerful Spring wrote: » 5 or 6 months ago they were sending ICBMs over Japan. Since then they have stopped testing, have blown up 2 nuclear facility sites and are in the process of handing over Korean war dead remains. North and South Korea are openly communicating with each other. They are in better place than 6 months ago. Trump economic growth is strong he has brought in policies that keep jobs in America. Bad for us but he is the US president it's his job to look after America. US: 71.7 percent of its combined defense expenditure. In short, the U.S. contributed more funds to NATO than Germany, France, Italy, Spain, the United Kingdom and Canada combined. It does not matter if they cause less crime they are entering the country illegally this puts a burden on a country resources.
Cheerful Spring wrote: » We have the document that's just nonsense. CIA can say what they like after the invasion but they did say Iraq had WMD. Read the key judgementshttps://fas.org/irp/cia/product/iraq-wmd-nie.pdf
Hurrache wrote: » Have you been in touch with the UN Security Council, and various government committees around the world to tell them they're all wrong? And who's "we"?
mcmoustache wrote: » Are you seriously saying, that after all the indictments, all guilty pleas, all the evidence that's out in the open that Russia had nothing to do with this?
Cheerful Spring wrote: » That Russia won the election for Trump yes that's fantasy promoted by people like you.
Outlaw Pete wrote: » https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXpRswM-tzc
Cheerful Spring wrote: » Not sure what world you live its established already Iraq WMD intelligence was fake. People who are not dumb to fall for the same lies again.
Are you seriously saying, that after all the indictments, all guilty pleas, all the evidence that's out in the open that Russia had nothing to do with this?
Cheerful Spring wrote: » People on this board forget too easily intelligence services lied to the world about Iraq WMD and other things since 2003. Some of us have longer memories. A few fake facebook accounts supporting Trump is hardly going to sway 60 million Americans to vote for Trump. There absolutely nothing that's show people were swayed by the Russians to vote Trump. Frankly, even if the Russians did hack the DNC they did the world and US people a service as they highlighted deep corruption in the Democratic primary that's the real scandal. Why is CNN not going after these people? Maybe the democrats are disappointed their corruption was found out. They obviously are trying to switch focus off them to Trump.
mcmoustache wrote: » I never said that. My claim is that Russia intervened in the US election to support Trump. They did this through social media targetting, GRU hackers and by funneling money into Trump's campaign. Feel free to challenge any of that because there's a heap of evidence out there supporting my claims.
Hurrache wrote: » Do you realise you're actually arguing against yourself now?
Professor Moriarty wrote: » I read that document - or the bits that were left after it was heavily redacted. It certainly states categorically that the CIA believed that Iraq possessed a variety of WMDs. Where did the document come from?
