Wibbs wrote: » Shoot me down in flames for being cynical, but this whole Henry Cavill thing smells to me like some agency PR to keep his name in the public mind(and to bat away the Gay rumours) and it went a little awry. Only a little as here we are talking about him.
[Deleted User] wrote: » Universal support, no... but support from those who sympathise with her, yes... which could easily be in the high numbers. And that's with her telling what happened exactly as it did. What if she's had a few drinks and doesn't remember what happened clearly?
I do wonder about this General consensus though.... how is that actually determined? Oh, you'll probably say it should be obvious... but isn't just the people with the loudest and most persistent voices? And it's also subject to change depending on the mood/attitude of the people involved... (since men aren't going to be involved in that decision, who tells the men when it's changed?)
LLMMLL wrote: » (Which happened just a month ago). Guy approaches girl politely. Girl politely rebuffs. Wherever girl goes in pub with her friends, within a few minutes guy is there standing beside her. Not doing anything creepy enough to be called out on. Just drinking his pint looking around. No matter where girl goes guy ends up standing right beside her. Eventually guy leans in “I’m actually a nice guy you know”. At which point girl tells him to leave her alone. Guy gets angry telling girl about how rude she is and how he was just being friendly. This is the kind of thing I hear women complain about. This is the kind of thing that is posted in metoo.
Rennaws wrote: » That's terrible and all but what do you expect us to do about it ? Do you think that guy is going to change his behaviour because of the metoo movement ?
LLMMLL wrote: » Yeah I think he might
Venom wrote: » More chance of you not buying a ticket and still winning the lotto. The example in question if true is obviously someone with zero social skills and possibly mental issues, so the idea of they ever grasping that their behaviour is way out of order is so unlikely as to be astronomical.
LLMMLL wrote: » Well then there’s a huge number of people out there with mental issues because that’s not an even slightly uncommon experience among my friends.
DONTMATTER wrote: » These guys here don't have a clue. You all don't know how common sleazy behaviour is, you don't know how much hassle women go through, nearly every woman has at least one disgusting or creepy story, for many it's a regular occurance. Open your ears, women through the metoo campaign are informing you of their experiences, stop doubting them, stop questioning them, stop minimising the effect their experiences have, fight with them, not against them!
Calhoun wrote: » How much of the stuff do you get? What other orders will you have us follow mein Fuhrer
One eyed Jack wrote: » I know how common you claim sleazy behavior is, which is a very different thing entirely from how common it actually is. I don't owe complete strangers anything, and certainly I don't owe them trust they haven't earned. I'm not fighting against those women that claim they have experienced sleazy behavior, but in order to fight with them, and in order to see justice done - evidence, rather than scaremongering would be a good start. Until then, I'm all ears, but without evidence there's nothing can be done. How about you stop fighting against guys saying they don't have a clue, when you aren't willing to present any actual evidence to support your claims. I don't believe for a minute that you know for certain that every woman has at least one creepy or disgusting story, and those sorts of exaggerated claims don't help your argument. I don't believe anyone should be obligated to listen to that sort of nonsense.
py2006 wrote: » If I meet a woman in the real world (and i have met a couple) that are likeminded to the couple posters here I would avoid like the plague. At best they are headwreckers and at worst they are looking for any stupid little reason to make a dubious accusation.
DONTMATTER wrote: » So you want to fight against women
DONTMATTER wrote: » Open your ears, women through the metoo campaign are informing you of their experiences, stop doubting them, stop questioning them, stop minimising the effect their experiences have, fight with them, not against them!
DONTMATTER wrote: » Honestly, I'd advise any women to avoid male posters on this thread. Some very worrying posts.
DONTMATTER wrote: » I'd advise any women to avoid male posters on this thread. Some very worrying posts.
Rennaws wrote: » "So what you're saying is.."
Omackeral wrote: » Can't take everything at face value. You simply can't. To do so is naive.
Omackeral wrote: » If they're anything like you, I'd happily oblige. There you go again with your sexist rubbish. All male posters on this thread are worrying ie dangerous. Deluded.
DONTMATTER wrote: » We can take it that thousands upon thousands of women are not lying. Surely that has to be accepted?
DONTMATTER wrote: » So you want to fight against women, fair enough, at least you're honest.
Rennaws wrote: » What are you suggesting ? At least have the balls to say what you mean..
Sweetemotion wrote: » So what you're saying is...
DONTMATTER wrote: » Is reading a problem amongst posters here?