So no details really, we all knew it was under review, it's the details we want
Just in case anyone is interested in the updates to planning around Solar PV, this just in from the Minister of State for Housing...
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I wish to refer to your correspondence to Mr Peter Burke T.D., Minister of State with responsibility for Local Government and Planning in connection with Solar Panel Installations.
I wish to advise that under the Planning and Development Act, 2000, as amended (the Act), all development, unless specifically exempted under the Act or associated Regulations, requires planning permission. Section 4 of the Act and Schedule 2 of the Planning and Development Regulations 2001, as amended (the Regulations), set out various exemptions from the requirement to obtain planning permission. Any such exemptions are subject to compliance with any general restrictions on exemptions set out in the Act or the Regulations and to the specific conditions set out in each class of exempted development in Schedule 2 of the Regulations. Included in the planning exemptions set out in the Regulations are those applying to the installation of solar infrastructure on a variety of building types, including houses, businesses, industrial and agricultural to which specific conditions are attached.
The Department, in the context of the Climate Action Plan and in consultation with the Department of Environment, Climate and Communications, has undertaken a review of the solar panel planning exemptions set out in the Regulations, with a particular focus on facilitating increased self-generation of electricity.
This review is now complete. Substantial changes to the current planning exemption thresholds for solar panels are proposed, as well as the introduction of new classes of solar panel planning exemptions relating to their use in apartments and in educational/community/religious buildings.
In light of the need to appropriately address aviation safety concerns arising from the “glint and glare” impacts of solar panels and the easing of the solar panel planning exemption thresholds, the Department is in the process of commissioning the development of detailed aviation safeguarding maps which will identify and delineate specific but limited areas in the vicinity of airports and aerodromes (referred to as exclusion zones) within which the exemptions will not apply. Project scoping feedback has been received from interested parties through the draft Request for Tender process and has been considered by my Department in the development of the final Request for Tender documentation. The Department intends to publish the call for tender shortly.
Whilst this work is ongoing, the Department has advanced interim regulations, adopting a temporary, albeit more stringent, radial approach incorporating initial defined exclusion zones around airports and aerodromes. These interim regulations, allowing for increased solar panel planning exemptions, will cover the vast majority of the land area of the country, only excluding those limited exclusion zones around airports and aerodromes.
The draft interim regulations have been reviewed under the Strategic Environmental Assessment (SEA) Directive 2001/42/EC and it has been determined that they are likely to have significant effects on the environment, necessitating the undertaking of a full SEA on the draft proposals. It is anticipated that the formal SEA process will commence, with consultation with the statutory environmental authorities to inform the content of the Environmental Report, following the completion of the screening for Appropriate Assessment by my Department’s Ecological Assessment Unit. The SEA Environmental Report will be published alongside a draft of the interim regulations for a period of public consultation of not less than 4 weeks. This public consultation is expected to commence shortly. A copy of the draft interim regulations and the Environmental Report will be made available for inspection over this period. Written submissions or observations will be taken into consideration before finalisation of the draft interim regulations in early 2022.
As required under planning legislation, the proposed exempted development regulations must be laid in draft form before the Houses of the Oireachtas and receive a positive resolution from both Houses before they can be made and the SEA process concluded.
Accordingly, the process for finalising the interim solar panel planning exemptions as referred to above, with interim exclusion zones around airports and aerodromes, is expected to be completed in 2022. As outlined, pending the finalisation of the aforementioned aviation safeguarding maps, these interim regulations will allow for the vast majority of the country to be covered by the proposed new solar panel exemptions apart from those areas in close proximity to airports and aerodromes.
Work on the development of the aviation safeguarding maps for airports and aerodromes is expected to be completed in Q2 2022. The final supplementary set of regulations - delineating the final exclusion areas around airports and aerodromes in which the exemptions will not apply - will be prepared thereafter and, subject to environmental reporting considerations, will subsequently be laid in draft form before the Houses of the Oireachtas for approval in a timely manner.
I trust that this clarifies the position
quentingargan wrote: » Kceire - you might know about this. I read in a report on a commercial project that; In practice many installations can avail of exemptions on the basis of 50% of roof area rather than 50 m2. The owner can ask the local authority to obtain a ‘Section 5 Declaration’ confirming exemption or apply for planning as may be required. Has anyone come across this option? And could the same declaration be made for residential?
kceire wrote: » I think they could alter the legislation to allow for the 50% on front roof slope and no max area to the rear maybe.
randomname2005 wrote: » Most of the desire for an easier planning application for panels or an increase on the allowed area, on the back roof of a house, in an estate, comes from current personal frustration.
kceire wrote: » I don’t agree with lobbying for relaxed planning requirements for panels. Why not relax then for vehicular entranced, or Velux windows etc The planning system is there to make it uniform throughout the country and in my Personal experience, it is already relaxed based on the fact that their is less drawings required for this type of application as it would be for a house extension etc
randomname2005 wrote: » Probably phrased wrong, but yeah, that will be the case. Maybe as quentingargan suggested, it might be worth lobbying for easier applications for situations like this, especially in estate houses or not close to "places of natural beauty". I was also wondering about the restrictions, 12 m2 or 50% of the roof, which ever is less. Are there any houses where 12m2 is half the roof size?? Looks like I will be scrapping the solar plans for the moment at least.
quentingargan wrote: » Usually the roof has a north and south facing side, so less than half the total roof is used unless it is a monopitch house. I would still give it a go with phoning your local planning office and seeing would they take a Google Earth map, a photo of the front of the house and a sketch of what you have in mind. There are organisations arguing for reduced planning restrictions. In my experience, many houses have done this without planning and take the view that if there is a difficulty later, you can look for retention on the basis that there has been no complaint, but i know others here would be (rightly) scathing of using the retention system.
quentingargan wrote: » On a two story house, getting scaffolding in place is a large chunk of the cost. Other than that, adding to a system or taking from it is easy enough.
randomname2005 wrote: » When constructing the system, is it easy to add or remove panels? Would it be easy to put up 7, apply for planning permission and then add 3 more, or vice versa, if there was a problem down the line, removing 3 during a sale?
randomname2005 wrote: » I was also wondering about the restrictions, 12 m2 or 50% of the roof, which ever is less. Are there any houses where 12m2 is half the roof size??
kceire wrote: » No need to fear, it is the case for every planning application in the country. OSi maps are purchased from Ordnance Survey Ireland. Your site plan, elevations all have to be drawn up by somebody that’s capable of drawing them to DoE standards and to get through But planning Validation. The maps make no difference whether you are during a build or after a build, it has no relevance.
randomname2005 wrote: » I fear that is the case (called, was told to send an email, will update if they reply). How do you go about getting the OSI maps, Site plan etc. During build that is fine, but is there an easy way for your average Jane or Joe?
kceire wrote: » I'll tell you exactly whats required : Newspaper Notice Site Notice OSi Maps Drawings to scale showing the plan, section and elevations of the panels and showing how the streetscape is effected Site Plan etc App Form Fee of €34 Lodge and wait 2 months for a decision
quentingargan wrote: » I think we are all missing the point here. A sensible system is 3kw or more, especially if you are looking at battery storage and making a meaningful contribution to your power consumption. The exemption is only up to about 2kw. The OP puts an interesting question - how easy is it to get planning for a 3 or 4kw system. Has anyone experience of this? If not, out of interest, I would call my local planning office and see what would be required. I imagine it may depend on location - if you are on the road passing the Cliffs of Moher, you might get a different response to being at the end of a long lane and out of sight. But we should be lobbying for a simplified planning process - a simple sketch that doesn't require cad/cam software etc. Lets ask our local planning offices and see what answers we get? I will do Skibbereen. Anyone else want to look for an answer to this in their area?
quentingargan wrote: » Lets ask our local planning offices and see what answers we get? I will do Skibbereen. Anyone else want to look for an answer to this in their area?
unkel wrote: In the meantime I'll start plastering a bit more. Bought a further two 300W panels today
unkel wrote: » Nice one KC!
unkel wrote: » Would be great for a lot of people here (myself included) if you could somehow get a definite answer on that one. I for one plan to eventually have the roof of my house and the roof of my kitchen extension and the roof of my shed plastered with panels You probably need to know this for sure anyway for your job?
unkel wrote: » Ah, so the PP is only for the front roof (visible from the road)? What about the rules about placing the panels at least a certain distance from the edges of the roof? Doesn't apply either on your rear roof?
randomname2005 wrote: » Hello, I have looked but not found anything, so please redirect if I missed something. We are looking at getting solar panels added to the house. Every company contacted has suggested a similar generation capacity, but the size of the arrays suggested is larger than what is allowed under planning law. Has anyone submitted a planning application just for the addition of solar panels and was it complicated or something that could be done with some engineering drawing ability? Many thanks RN
