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Student allegedly caught masturbating in public facing trial

elbyrneo

So a Sudanese national was masturbating in Dublin City centre at 1am and was caught by Gardai. No other members of the public were there at the time.

His name and picture is now all over the papers.

On the assumption he was drunk and immature and he's not some sort of sex pest or danger to the public, it's a significant punishment being publicised and embarrassed.

Sometimes anonymity might be appropriate as the publicity of the crime outweighs the impact of any legal punishment.

Kinda feel bad for the guy who possibly did something really stupid and now has to face a) humiliation and b) possible outcasting on basis he might be some sort of sexual predator.

Male suicide such a serious issue in this country. Social media trials can be so damning against men as we seen this year. Really think his name and picture should not be there for the country to see and rights of anonymity should be explored.

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Stanford

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Red it again, only with an Irish guy and you would want him tarred and feathered and on the sexual offenders register before monday.

It might be acceptable in the Sudan/Somalia/Ethopia or some other part of Africa but it is not acceptable here.
Send him somewhere where it is acceptable behaviour. If you are old enough to get liquor and beat one out, news flash!!! You arent a kid anymore

True, irrespective of background one should respect the laws of the country you are in

spurious

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Must be in a part of Dublin I am not familiar with but carry on as you were........

Classrooms in many cases.

thebull85

spurious wrote: »

Half of Dublin's city centre males go round with one hand down the jocks, are they all to be prosecuted?

No because thats not masturbation do you not see the difference? Or do you need it explained to you?

Birneybau

Deleted User wrote: »

"vigorously ransacking his dignity"

I really need to rewatch it all again.

Liquid silk

spurious

thebull85 wrote: »

No because thats not masturbation do you not see the difference? Or do you need it explained to you?

OK, hands down jocks, with movement. Do they need to whip it out?

BorneTobyWilde

If it goes to court his lawyer can just yell out

''erection your Honor ''

thebull85

spurious wrote: »

OK, hands down jocks, with movement. Do they need to whip it out?

I think you are paying to much attention to young boys crotch areas...

spurious

thebull85 wrote: »

I think you are paying to much attention to young boys crotch areas...

Did I say young? Methinks you are the one jollying on this.

Stanford

spurious wrote: »

Half of Dublin's city centre males go round with one hand down the jocks, are they all to be prosecuted?

I hope they find what they are looking for........

skooterblue2

spurious wrote: »

Classrooms in many cases.

Well just give then 50 Lines. "I will not shove my digits down the front of my trousers and embarrassing myself and other teachers in front of the pupils. Frther more it is also a criminal offence and morally wrong and carries the chance of being branded a registered sex offender and a term of 6 months suspended sentence."

thebull85

spurious wrote: »

Did I say young? Methinks you are the one jollying on this.

ohhh so its the older ones your into?

RandomName2

One eyed Jack wrote: »

Relevant section under which the lad was charged -

Source: Criminal Law (Sexual Offences) Act 2017

We criticized Dubai when they put a couple in court for having sex on the beach. We said, only a backwards, non-secular state would consider such strict punishment because it is so afraid of sexual acts. We really should be a bit better than that.

Does it still say 'buggery' in that statute? :eek:

Jerichoholic

eviltwin wrote: »

Stupid maybe but not disgusting and he shouldn't be shamed for it. We all do it, just not in public

Yes, but he DID IT IN PUBLIC. Would you like everyone to walk around **** all day? Would that be alright? Why stop there, lets **** on the streets in front of nuns too.

Birneybau

Jerichoholic wrote: »

Yes, but he DID IT IN PUBLIC. Would you like everyone to walk around **** all day? Would that be alright? Why stop there, lets **** on the streets in front of nuns too.

Yes, let's

[Deleted User]

Jerichoholic wrote: »

Yes, but he DID IT IN PUBLIC. Would you like everyone to walk around **** all day? Would that be alright? Why stop there, lets **** on the streets in front of nuns too.

I know we're here posting about a man masturbating in public, but I'd still appreciate if we could not descend into this level of hysteria.

This style of argument never works and always makes the poster look ridiculous.

Jerichoholic

RandomName2 wrote: »

Does a tree falling in an empty forest make any sound?

Also, I thought the nuns had all f*cked off at this point.

If it's caught by the police it does, yes.

One eyed Jack

spurious wrote: »

Half of Dublin's city centre males go round with one hand down the jocks, are they all to be prosecuted?

Is this a rhetorical question in support of the argument that the potential punishment for being caught by the Gardaí masturbating in public is too severe, or are you arguing that lads walking round with their hands down their jocks should also be charged with a criminal offence?

They can be charged with a public order offence, which doesn't require them to have exposed themselves to be charged:

Public Order Offences

RandomName2

Jerichoholic wrote: »

If it's caught by the police it does, yes.

Okay, so we're no better than Sudan.

That's depressing for 2018.

Odhinn

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Big difference between being pelted with fruit in the stocks for a weekend and losing either a few digits off your hand or your whole hand. You have to remember these lads are nt coming from a civilised society. That whole area of East africa is a joke that the whole American and British armies couldn't put discipline on.

...sez the man all for bringing back medieval "justice".

kaiser wrote:

Our country, our rules. Come here and adapt, or go elsewhere. Skin colour and a sad story is no excuse, no more than it would be acceptable if this story involved a white, Irish lad.

Nobody has said any such thing thus far.

Jerichoholic

It's illegal, a crime, against the law. Man was arrested for breaking the law.

What's the problem with this?

Westernyelp

Jerichoholic wrote: »

It's illegal, a crime, against the law. Man was arrested for breaking the law.

What's the problem with this?

Most people progress beyond this binary view of the world when they are small children,

zetalambda

Hapax Legomenon wrote: »

No, it was a radio presenter from Cork who took codeine, which made him pull the mickey off himself on a flight.

Loss of memory too.

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Jerichoholic

Westernyelp wrote: »

Most people progress beyond this binary view of the world when they are small children,

Condescending, nice. Most people put a full stop at the end of a sentence when they reach the age of 5.

jbt123

Stanford wrote: »

I hope they find what they are looking for........

...in the streets with no shame..

Westernyelp

Jerichoholic wrote: »

Condescending, nice. Most people put a full stop at the end of a sentence when they reach the age of 5.

I was going to say something else but I decided to keep it simple.

RandomName2

Jerichoholic wrote: »

It's illegal, a crime, against the law. Man was arrested for breaking the law.

What's the problem with this?

It's a disproportionate response to what appears to be a very minor crime.

degsie

Jerichoholic wrote: »

It's illegal, a crime, against the law. Man was arrested for breaking the law.

What's the problem with this?

White collar crime is also against the law, but is often overlooked.

Will I Am Not

I’d love to see the crossover of people that say “they know the law of the land” when women are arrested for wearing a bikini in a public place in Dubai or unmarried couples staying in the same hotel room, and those who think this should have been just a caution.

Fann Linn

degsie wrote: »

White collar crime is also against the law, but is often overlooked.

Thats a matter for AGS and the judiciary. In this case the Gardai did their job.

skooterblue2

Odhinn wrote: »

...sez the man all for bringing back medieval "justice".

We didnt need medieval justice until we started to import medieval elements.