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Henry Cavill forced to apologize for #metoo comments

AudreyHepburn

I don’t know if this has been talked about already here but I’ve only just. come across it and am interested in my fellow boardsies think.

Actor Henry Cavill has been forced to apologize for comments related to the MeToo movement. I’m writing this on my phone so can’t link anything just now bit basically he said he’s afraid to approach women for fear of being accused of something he didn’t do which didn’t go down well with feminazi brigade and metooers.

Personally I think he’s got a point and I don’t like the way the metoo movement is determined to deny men their voices and twist everything they say.

I think he has perfectly legitimate concerns and he’s likely not the only one. Metoo was a good thing in the beginning but now it’s a witch hunt and I can understand completely the fears men have as a result.

Afterhours thoughts?

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[Deleted User]

DONTMATTER wrote: »

It showed how deep it went. How much hassle women have on nights out etc.

Women have always received a degree of harassment, and it's been well known. Most guys are raised to be polite and not to harass women (and behave that way)... the minority of men who break the boundaries have been doing so before, and after "metoo".

Instead, we have a "metoo" movement where some claims were about being harassed because the woman felt harassed because a guy she wasn't attracted to, simply asked her out. There was a wide range of claims of harassment from the serious to the nonsensical.

Obviously the number of sexual assaults and rapes are staggering.

Why staggering?

Both sexual assaults and Rapes should be reported and investigated. Otherwise, they're simply claims and without foundation. Without reporting claims of either rape or assault, then records can't be made, and actual realistic statistics formulated with a clear idea of the real problem.

Instead, we have thousands of vague claims made anonymously, and not investigated by any official organisation. That doesn't help anybody.

JohnMc1

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

He's good looking he won't have any issues.

That's the thing with these types of women they can turn the bull**** on and off when suits thrm.

Especially when superman appears.....

He's good looking and the star in multiple major motion picture series [Superman and Justice League] He is the perfect target for false allegations.

He shouldn't have apologized. He was dead on.

DONTMATTER

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

The title is exactly why I said what I said. So is the op. So is every other post apart from yours.

Can you not see metoo in nearly every post and the title of the thread?

DONTMATTER

Deleted User wrote: »

Exposed it? I dunno about that since I've never noticed any gag order on Irish women, or anything which prevented them from speaking before. The Metoo campaign simply broadened what was considered sexual assault to include just about anything a woman might be offended by.

It did highlight some actual harassment or assault, but it's message was seriously diminished by the amount of minor crap reported.

One bigger issue though was the lack of followup. It was simply women stating their experiences and no effort to determine the truth of the claims.

It showed how deep it went. How much hassle women have on nights out etc. Obviously the number of sexual assaults and rapes are staggering.

Franz Von Peppercorn

DONTMATTER wrote: »

Maybe you should re-read the thread. Even if you read the title of the thread it will help you out.

The title is exactly why I said what I said. So is the op. So is every other post apart from yours.

[Deleted User]

DONTMATTER wrote: »

The amount of women who've been sexually assaulted in Ireland is pretty sickening. The metoo movement exposed this didn't it? Women came forward.

Exposed it? I dunno about that since I've never noticed any gag order on Irish women, or anything which prevented them from speaking before. The Metoo campaign simply broadened what was considered sexual assault to include just about anything a woman might be offended by.

It did highlight some actual harassment or assault, but it's message was seriously diminished by the amount of minor crap reported.

One bigger issue though was the lack of followup. It was simply women stating their experiences and no effort to determine the truth of the claims.

DONTMATTER

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

The thread is about Henry Cavill and his interview.

Maybe you should re-read the thread. Even if you read the title of the thread it will help you out.

Franz Von Peppercorn

DONTMATTER wrote: »

I'm posting about the metoo movement. Have you not read the thread?

The thread is about Henry Cavill and his interview.

Yer Da sells Avon

Richard Hillman wrote: »

if he approached a woman even politely, he could end up as the next "Me Too".

He really couldn't.

DONTMATTER

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Why are you posting on a thread about the guy then? The information is in the original post.

I'm posting about the metoo movement. Have you not read the thread?

Franz Von Peppercorn

RayCun wrote: »

"I used to support X but this shows that X has gone too far" is about the least convincing argument ever. It's amazing that people still try it.

Why? Things invariably go too far.

The #metoo movement starts with Weinstein and ends with a guy who has to apologise because he says he’s afraid to flirt.

Franz Von Peppercorn

DONTMATTER wrote: »

Don't know who it is and I couldn't give a **** to be honest. The metoo movement was a good thing though.

Why are you posting on a thread about the guy then? The information is in the original post.

Outlaw Pete

I understand him apologizing. These people are relentless and I'm sure he just wants to do whatever it takes to get them to f-off.

McDermotX

thebull85 wrote: »

Who forced him to apologise?

His career prospects and publicity efforts.

Lot of people in that industry need to walk the walk. For their own benefit of course. Better man would stick it to them.

thebull85

Who forced him to apologise?

FAILSAFE 00

Superperson

Sal Butamol

He should have doubled down instead of apologising.

RayCun

"I used to support X but this shows that X has gone too far" is about the least convincing argument ever. It's amazing that people still try it.

squawker

nonsense

this whole thing will end up exactly the opposite of what "this movement" is trying to achieve

Richard Hillman

The apology was bizarre and over the top, desperate even. He probably could have phrased what he said a bit better but the crux of what he is saying is a massive issue. Approaching a woman is a minefield now a days. And even for a very handsome, well known actor, if he approached a woman even politely, he could end up as the next "Me Too".

Mister Vain

It was definitely blown out of proportion but I'm not exactly surprised by the backlash he received. Instead of dealing with an opposing argument by putting forth a rebuttal, he was basically attacked for having an opinion because he's a man.

hatrickpatrick

My opinion on it is very simply. Something can only be sexual harassment after it's already been rebuffed. An initial approach, however forward, simply cannot be "harassment" because "harassment" implies something persistent, not a once-off.

Ergo, someone coming up to me and saying "I wanna be on you" a la Ron Burgundy may be lewd and lascivious, but the word "harassment" only applies if it happens again after I tell the individual I'm not interested.

As far as physical contact goes, unwanted sexual contact is sexual assault. Conflating this with harassment is also causing unnecessary confusion as to what harassment actually implies. Even once-off sexual contact without consent is sexual assault, but once-off comments in the hopes of opening a sexual dialogue with something is not wrong, and it's moronic as a society that we're trying to change this.

The #metoo movement was a good thing as far as it pertained to sexual assault, or sexual coercion (do this or you don't get the job), but the minute it branched out into including what is an entirely subjective thing - "this guy's sexual advance was too forward, he should have been more coy about it" - was when it lost my support. Because one person's "too forward" is another person's "not forward enough". There's no agreed upon barometer for it, so using it to ruin peoples' lives is plain and simple stupidity.

DONTMATTER

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

#metoo is fine for pointing out past abuses. In this case a guy merely says he is afraid to flirt. And then needs to apologise.

I doubt it was totally voluntary either. Might have been but a few agents or producers might have had a word.

Don't know who it is and I couldn't give a **** to be honest. The metoo movement was a good thing though.

Franz Von Peppercorn

DONTMATTER wrote: »

The amount of women who've been sexually assaulted in Ireland is pretty sickening. The metoo movement exposed this didn't it? Women came forward.

#metoo is fine for pointing out past abuses. In this case a guy merely says he is afraid to flirt. And then needs to apologise.

I doubt it was totally voluntary either. Might have been but a few agents or producers might have had a word.

CatFromHue

I sexually assaulted myself the other night, it was sickening and exhilarating at the same time!

DONTMATTER

The amount of women who've been sexually assaulted in Ireland is pretty sickening. The metoo movement exposed this didn't it? Women came forward.

Mrcaramelchoc

Taytoland wrote: »

Metoo movement is a big load of bollocks.

Nope there's absolutely no bollocks involved.fannys only.

Taytoland

Metoo movement is a big load of bollocks.

One eyed Jack

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

I don’t know if this has been talked about already here but I’ve only just. come across it and am interested in my fellow boardsies think.

Actor Henry Cavill has been forced to apologize for comments related to the MeToo movement. I’m writing this on my phone so can’t link anything just now bit basically he said he’s afraid to approach women for fear of being accused of something he didn’t do which didn’t go down well with feminazi brigade and metooers.

Here's a link, which offers a bit of context -

'Insensitivity was absolutely not my intention' - Henry Cavill apologises after #MeToo comments

So he wasn't forced to apologise, he chose to.

Personally I think he’s got a point and I don’t like the way the metoo movement is determined to deny men their voices and twist everything they say.

I think he has perfectly legitimate concerns and he’s likely not the only one. Metoo was a good thing in the beginning but now it’s a witch hunt and I can understand completely the fears men have as a result.

Afterhours thoughts?

He wasn't making the point you think he was making though, nor did he intend the point he did make to be taken out of context, and he makes that point himself -

He added: “This experience has taught me a valuable lesson as to the context and the nuance of editorial liberties.

Your opening post is the kind of editorial liberties he was referring to, or rather more specifically the editorial liberties taken by the editors of GQ Australia magazine in this case to present a narrative of Henry Cavill and his opinions in a way in which he had not intended.

It's not much of a story really tbh, both sides seeing what they want and all that.

Riddle101

People will be needing to sign consent forms now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGWKKI2ky8w