whelan2 wrote: » Have a few to sell. All under 10 months, all bulls, 2 blues, 2 fr, 2 Angus and 2 Hereford. On meal. Would I be better off waiting?
jaymla627 wrote: » Neighbour has to bring home cattle from Mart this week, similar to above, wasn’t even bid on two of them and they where good 300kgs r grade cattle, mart trade has collapsed in midlands anyways but then again their isn’t a blade of grass left in this area
whelan2 wrote: Have a few to sell. All under 10 months, all bulls, 2 blues, 2 fr, 2 Angus and 2 Hereford. On meal. Would I be better off waiting?
Bass Reeves wrote: » Hard to know all stock have dropped back in price hard to see them making 400 euro.
FeirmeoirtTed wrote: » Howdy folks just wondering what price would angus or hereford weanlings be at this time about 3 to 4 months old?
Bass Reeves wrote: » In early May of this year a lad said to me that the winter of 2017/18 would not be over until the spring of 2019. His point was that late sown grains would have an impact on ration prices next winter. However I was talking to him early in the week it is going to be much worse than he orginaly taught he said. There will be an ache well into next year and beyond. It a case of hunker down and survive it as best you can. We have not seen the bottom of this yet. Even if it rained tomorrow (and there is no sign of rain for next 10 days), you will not have grass for a month. Huge amount of fertlizer sitting in bags across the country with feed bills mounting.
Base price wrote: » I was at our feed merchants last week collecting straights and the yard was full of pallets and large bags of fertilizer. I jokingly said to the manager that they were well stocked up for when the rain comes, his reply was that unless the meal is paid for then most of it will stay in the bags.
Danzy wrote: » I'm aiming to have the last animal of the year killed by August 15th. Not planned or foreseen in the wildest scenario. It is the type of year where the good white head and the poor Friesian are going up the line together. This year is like a broken ankle, you'll get over it but there will still be an ache next year.
Bass Reeves wrote: » So livestock numbers in two years time will be similar to last year and this year. However another factor is taht there are much less Fr calves on the ground dairy farmers are using much higher rate of beef bulls compared to 2-3 years ago.
Bass Reeves wrote: » Drought is forcing cattle out that otherwise would not have come on stream. Loads of cows being slaughtered if lads can get them into the factory's. Most of what is happening is forced selling. I am in the same way, cattle that I did not intend to slaughter for another 6-8 weeks will be send ASAP. Things have really changed in the last month. Even on heavy land grass growth has slowed down. Hard to believe that millers are again finding it hard to keep nuts and rations supplied. No second cut silage to any great extent. Heard of a lad that got 2 bales/acre, I am premowing 4 acres of hybrid for cattle. I say at most there was the equivilent of 10-12 bales on the 4 acres. The first cut was taken the 25th of May. Only 50% of my silage requirement in the yard. More than me taught it unlikely that beef price would have fallen so fast. However this may cause the start live exports of finished cattle. Crystal ball gazing is not an exact science.
riemann wrote: » I don't know where you get your information, but it might be time to reassess.
Bass Reeves wrote: » Not sure if they will manage to pull it that low by August. Grass cattle still very scarce and will remain so for 3-5 weeks. 2014 was the same and prices rose in July until cattle came on stream processors actually guaranteed a price to regular sellers on late August so as to drop prices to smaller producers
Base price wrote: » 42K more calves exported to date this year over last year.
Bass Reeves wrote: » It might create a demand for for cows/beef next May/June if lots of cows killed this year rather than finished. Traditionally cows are culled at end of season rather than June/July. If there are limited culls available next October then there will be few for slaughter next May/June Not really any cattle being killed are cattle destined for slaughter this year anyway with maybe the exception of cows. That is unless lads start trying to finish bulls that were targeted for the Christmas/New Year market. However dairy and suckler farmer may be temped to cull cows that are repeating if they are tight on fodderI think 2 years time will be no issue 45K more calves on the ground this year compared to last year in 2 years time they will be being finished it is after that where the issue will be. Calves born could be well back next year. As above if I was buying anything at present it would be 18 months cattle. In the Journal thsi week there was a bunch of 414 kg HE that made only made 735 and a bunch of AA heifers 396 that made 740. The week before there was Friesians 2016 cattle 528 that made 880. The Friesian and heifers could be slaughtered off grass if you had it. The herefords would be serious cattle next June again if you had grass to carry them until after the drought.
Never wrestle with pigs wrote: » Can't keep fr cows killed fast enough around here, most stock not finished. Will this create a good price next spring with allot of the dead wood being removed now?
Danzy wrote: » You would think it would help, same as a lot of cattle killed earlier in the year, should help this year, a lot of cows repeating as well I hear. It will help but we might not see it in the price.
blue5000 wrote: » Mentioned this at a DG meeting yesterday, it will be 2 years before it is felt in finished cattle price.
Danzy wrote: » I'll buy everything i can get my hands on, under 6 months.
Burning Tires wrote: » Sent a single of bullocks away this evening. €4.00 / kg base. Dropping to 3.90 by next Monday. Have no more to send for a mobth id say
Burning Tires wrote: » Booked in on Sunday, and they were in good order alright. Sent a load 2 weeks ago too and still haven't bought in any replacements. Been sellung grass instead. I've a friend with 6 stock bulls to go, and they refusing to take them for the next 2 weeks
Danzy wrote: » They must have been good cattle to get 4 now this year, a sad state of affairs. 3.95 was the base for most I know. Have 6 to go end of next week and 10 before the end of the month, they will surely drop again the first week of august.
Willfarman wrote: » My hopes of making my first million from fattening cattle this year have been dashed as hard as our neighbors World Cup hopes.. another 5 cent cut next week.
Willfarman wrote: » My hopes of making my first million from fattening cattle this year have been dashed as hard as our neighbors World Cup hopes.. another 5 cent cut next week.[/quote 3.90 for bks next week midlands. They've a nice job done on it just like every other year..............
