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Cork developments

snotboogie

I noticed that the Limerick equivalent is a very popular thread over on their forum so I thought I might get one going here. To kick things off I'll list the bigger current projects I can think of:

Under Construction

Navigation Square: Four building office development on the former Navigation House site on Albert Quay. 310,000 sq ft of office space for up to 3000 employees. First phase to be completed Feb 19'

89-90 South Mall: 50,000 sq ft office, 5 storey office building.To be completed in December 18'

Dalata Hotel South Mall: Six storey hotel, 165 beds. To be completed in December 18'

Various Student Accommodation: Western Road and Beamish site are under construction, Crows Nest has planning and should start soon, Square Deal is facing appeals, Coca-Cola site on the Carrigrohane Road has had planning for over a year but nothing has happened? O’Riordans Joinery, Gillen House on Farranlea Road, Model Farm Road/Melbourne Road and Copely Street are all at various stages of planning and/or limbo.

Planning/Appealed

Horgan's Quay: Office Space for 5,000 employees, 200 apartments, 136 bed hotel and 3000 sq metres of restaurants and retail. Got planning permission in March but it was appealed by Port of Cork. Uncertain when the final decision will be. Construction on the Hotel will hopefully begin in Q4 this year with the office and apartments commencing in 2019.

Sullivan's Quay: 6 storey Office & 193 bed 4 star Hotel. Planning granted and immediately appealed. Given that demolition is nearly complete I'd expect this to go into construction as soon as planning is granted. Potential hold up over the height of the hotel, at 12 storeys and 47 metres, it is set to make the top 20 tallest buildings in the state if completed. An Taisce not happy.

Former Victoria Hotel: Knocking much of the Victoria and rebuilding to the back and refurbishing the original historic front/facade and to integrate the two sections into a new high order retail unit, of 25,000 sq ft, over four floors. Rumoured to be taken over by Zara. Planning granted in Feb, nothing happened on site since.

Metropole Redevelopment: €50m redevelopment of the Metropole Hotel to include a new five-storey boutique hotel on Patrick's Quay. Planning granted with amendments in March. No date for work to start.

Wilton Shopping Centre: €100 million revamp proposed. Mistake made in planning permission. In the process of resubmitting.

In Limbo

Event Centre: 6000 all seater multi purpose event centre with a tourist brewery experience. Arguably the most controversial construction project in the history of the city. After a bleak 6 months at the back end of 2017 there have been two instances of positive murmurs from the Government and BAM in January 2018 and April 2018. Construction allegedly to start in Q4 2018 but there are still conflicting and contradictory statements from all parties involved. Most would be shocked to see this start in 2018.

Anderson Quay/Camden Quay/Trinity Quarter: All have had planning for years with no work on site. Camden Quay allegedly had some work going on last week but I'd be shocked if it was related to the actual construction. I can't see any of these sites being developed as per their current proposals.

Concept/Pre Planning

Docklands Tower: 40 storey mixed use tower with the redevelopment of the existing customs house warehouses into cultural, tourist and retail space. By a mile the most ambitious development in Ireland. Announced over one year ago and no sign of a planning permission application yet, allegedly waiting for the Docklands development plan this summer to rezone heights for the site. If we don't see a planning application by the end of the year I'd be worried.

Ford Distribution Depot: Put on sale last week. Former site of the extremely ambitious Atlantic Quarter. Major development opportunity

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Muttley79

Cork seems to be picking up again with lot of construction going on in around the city.

marno21

Firstly, Dunkettle Interchange construction contract has been awarded to Sisk. Rough timelime will be preliminary/preparatory works starting in Q4 2018 with full works beginning in Q1 2019. The project will take 3-4 years due to the traffic management involved in building such a complex project in such a tight area whilst keeping running lanes open at most times. The lack of residential development near the interchange (for once) should enable full steam ahead off peak (mainly between 9pm and 6am).

Secondly, the biggest development of them all appears to be chugging away behind the scenes.. I look forward to this rising from the ashes, or rising from an undeveloped, wasted dock beside some derelict warehouses:

https://twitter.com/McNamaraSalvia/status/1011918099342381056?s=19

and

https://twitter.com/McNamaraSalvia/status/1011918603094982656

calnand

John Cleary Developments just updated their plans for the City gate plaza (site next to the central statistics office). most notable feature is the lack of apartments they were looking to add back in 2016. It has gone from 6 office blocks in 2014, to 3 in 2016 to only 2 now. https://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/developer-seeks-to-alter-80m-plan-424773.html

marno21

calnand wrote: »

John Cleary Developments just updated their plans for the City gate plaza (site next to the central statistics office). most notable feature is the lack of apartments they were looking to add back in 2016. It has gone from 6 office blocks in 2014, to 3 in 2016 to only 2 now. https://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/developer-seeks-to-alter-80m-plan-424773.html

That's disappointing. Given the amount of employment out in Mahon additional accommodation out there would be nice.

BUNK1982

marno21 wrote: »

That's disappointing. Given the amount of employment out in Mahon additional accommodation out there would be nice.

i would say it's reacting to the market - there are more sites becoming available in and nearer to the city centre which would be a safer investment.

Also, I'd wonder how valuable that City Gate campus is going to be in a few years if more and more office space becomes available in the city centre.

AugustusMinimus

Cork City Council looking for a name for the new Merchants Quay Bridge.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/views/ourview/new-bridge-will-need-a-name-a-chance-to-honour-the-forgotten-854064.html

Cork Boy 53

AugustusMinimus wrote: »

Cork City Council looking for a name for the new Merchants Quay Bridge.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/views/ourview/new-bridge-will-need-a-name-a-chance-to-honour-the-forgotten-854064.html

Maybe the Roy Keane or Sonia O`Sullivan Bridge?;)

j8wk2feszrnpao

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Maybe the Roy Keane or Sonia O`Sullivan Bridge?;)

Definitely this. It'd be great to have her at the opening and cutting the ribbon.

Cork Boy 53

munstermagic11 wrote: »

Definitely this. It'd be great to have her at the opening and cutting the ribbon.

I wasn`t actually being serious on that post. There is no way the bridge will be named after a living person.

EnzoScifo

Mother Jones Bridge

TheChizler

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

I wasn`t actually being serious on that post. There is no way the bridge will be named after a living person.

Anyone idea what the outcome of this meeting was?

https://www.eveningecho.ie/corknews/Calls-for-new-bridge-name-to-honour-Cork-woman-7260eafe-4e8b-465a-bdab-fdb10de15a12-ds

j8wk2feszrnpao

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

I wasn`t actually being serious on that post. There is no way the bridge will be named after a living person.

I know, but always seems a waste to do it when they are dead; like they can appreciate it from the grave.
There's a generations growing up that may never hear of what Sonia achieved, which is shame.

Dbu

https://www.daft.ie/cork/commercial-property-for-rent/offices-for-rent/trinity-quarter-south-terrace-cork-cork-city-cork-269410/

Just saw this on Daft
Does it mean that trinity quarter on south terrace is back on track for development?

cgcsb

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

There is no way the bridge will be named after a living person.

I gather you haven't crossed the Mary Mcaleese Boyne Valley Peace Bridge so?

D'Agger

The Sonia bridge has a nice ring to it.

whisky_galore

It'll come in useful for when I need to get from one side of the river to the other about 2 mins faster.

snotboogie

Dbu wrote: »

https://www.daft.ie/cork/commercial-property-for-rent/offices-for-rent/trinity-quarter-south-terrace-cork-cork-city-cork-269410/

Just saw this on Daft
Does it mean that trinity quarter on south terrace is back on track for development?

Available to move in: Immediately
:ermm:

draiochtanois

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marno21

https://www.eveningecho.ie/opinion/Putting-people-at-the-heart-of-a-new-Cork-city-e5679d77-9ff7-4560-8572-baf7a76bb27f-ds

Very interesting article from the Echo last week.

whisky_galore

draiochtanois wrote: »

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"expertely designed"

cgcsb

marno21 wrote: »

https://www.eveningecho.ie/opinion/Putting-people-at-the-heart-of-a-new-Cork-city-e5679d77-9ff7-4560-8572-baf7a76bb27f-ds

Very interesting article from the Echo last week.

Cork isn't ready for all that I don't think. If Patrick St gate is anything to go by I'd imagine bringing in light rail or even high spec bus services would result in every red neck in the county issuing a fatwah for the head of the NTA and Jihad would be declared. Lads who used to illegally park on Patrick Street to collect their Chinese between the hours of 15:00 and 18:00 will be detonating themselves on front of Brown Thomas for their cause, MSG Akbar!

Apogee

Irish Examiner wrote:

Plans for a €30m sheltered and affordable housing apartment complex close to Cork city centre have been unveiled. The proposed development in Blackpool, to be delivered by Clúid Housing in partnership with Cork City Council, will involve the construction of 112 apartments on a 1.32-hectare site on Thomas Davis St.The site of the former Blackpool flats complex, which was demolished several years ago, has lain vacant since and is surrounded by hoarding.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/30m-affordable-housing-project-proposed-for-cork-city-472782.html

nlrkjos

D'Agger wrote: »

The Sonia bridge has a nice ring to it.

How about Tom Barry bridge, a man who beat the best the British had in the war of Independence. As far as I know we have nothing to honor him in Cork city.

Ubbquittious

nlrkjos wrote: »

How about Tom Barry bridge, a man who beat the best the British had in the war of Independence. As far as I know we have nothing to honor him in Cork city.

The pub doesn't count?

marno21

The NTA will shortly publish a Cork Transport Strategy (usually covers 15-20 years) which will outline strategic investment priorities for transport in Cork (bus, rail, cycling, pedestrians, roads). They published one for Dublin in 2015 - here https://www.nationaltransport.ie/planning-policy/greater-dublin-areatransport-strategy-2016-2035/ - which has led to a number of projects being advanced (4 Luas lines, Metro, DART Expansion, BusConnects, various cycling projects)

This should really help the PT situation in Cork and give some clear direction as to where investment will be pushed in coming years. I expect FINALLY to have a policy based programme for new railway stations and enhanced fleet in Cork (some REALLY obvious locations for commuter rail stations in Cork).

I look forward to this as it will finally see Cork having some sort of plan for public transport instead of the disorganised mess at present.

whisky_galore

nlrkjos wrote: »

How about Tom Barry bridge, a man who beat the best the British had in the war of Independence. As far as I know we have nothing to honor him in Cork city.

Think we've about enough things named after old rebels at this stage. Time to move on or diversify at least.

CHealy

Apogee wrote: »

https://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/30m-affordable-housing-project-proposed-for-cork-city-472782.html

Good to see this but they should be going even denser, 5 to 8 stories instead of 3 to 5. Theres a housing crisis with about 6000 people on the City Council housing list, build it up ffs.

Cork Boy 53

whisky_galore wrote: »

Think we've about enough things named after old rebels at this stage. Time to move on or diversify at least.

With the centenary of the start of the War of Independence coming up next year, I think naming the new bridge after Tom Barry is a strong runner.

BUNK1982

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

With the centenary of the start of the War of Independence coming up next year, I think naming the new bridge after Tom Barry is a strong runner.

It's a footpath over the river - do we really need to attach any name to it?

Mc-BigE

munstermagic11 wrote: »

I reckon 608 families are very eager for it!
I understand your feelings on it though.

But as per the development in Carrigaline, there are people crying out for houses. And prices are going to remain prohibited for many unless they are built.

600 houses (10% for affordable housing), with average of 2 cars per household (well designed for anyway) so an extra 1200 potential cars / people on the local roads. more congestion, same small road system in glanmire (i know they are making changes but only layout changes, very little new roads until tunnel roundabout changes).

also, lots of peoples houses/cars being broken into over the last year, and the nearest full time garda station is Gurranabraher, 20minutes away.

sorry if this rant is in the wrong thread, but someone did ask